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@Greyparrot
People that are screaming about masks and staying at home on my social media are the same ones out and about with buddies going to restaurants and taking pictures together without mask. Rules for thee but not for me
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@Greyparrot
@Vader
If Trump wins, he’s going after everything. He won’t have anything stopping him.
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@Username
Biden supporting redirecting funds, not doing away with police altogether.
Once again you’re dodging. Defunding means taking full or partial funds away from police officers. Biden supports this. You’re engaging in semantics. Biden supports partial defunding of police if that makes you feel better.
Not a single mention of the word Union. Pivot. A more hefty Democratic bill is going through the house of reps right now.
You said how would unions get weaker? Well there are multiple provisions that would prevent unions from protecting officers because of the interactions they’d be required to report under law with penalty.
Your initial point was that BLM doesn't care about Black on Black crime. My point was that organizations don't have to stand for one thing if they stand for another thing. You then went on a rant about BLM and the Democrats. How'd you show me my analogy was false?
They don’t, when they should. Skin cancer activists support every other cancer treatment research. I never said they can’t stand for both things. The problem is they don’t stand for both things—only the one that is politically convenient for them.
By school choice do you mean improving schools? Or do you mean letting students have school vouchers so they can crowd up some school outside of their neighborhood? School vouchers do nothing to actually improve the communities the affected party lives in. They just send them out.
There are a plethora of ways school choice can be implemented and it’s not just through vouchers. The key is choice. Poor communities lack the funds to be able to enroll their child in a private school for example. Instead of gathering every child in a broken public school system, it increases efficiency if there are more options available to these parents. Will every child be accepted into a private school? Obviously not. Will public schools still exist? Sure. Will efficiency increase? Definitely because there are more options tailored to the child. I simply don’t see why you want the govt to force people to go to broken public schools that cannot be fixed. Fixing the community involved better education and school choice does that.
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@Username
Oh the horror of redirecting funds elsewhere... You realize that you can stop crime in more ways than one, right?
Thanks for conceding Biden supports defunding the police. And no. Crime is going to surge without the police. It already is in places like New York.
This whole "Police Unions are the only problem" claim is unsubstantiated and you've failed to suggest how Republicans plan to weaken the Police Unions.
Shamefully rejected by Senate Democrats.
[citation needed]
So you do believe federal property should be protected and rioters should be arrested? Glad to know.
Nice whataboutism.
Yup keep dodging. I showed you why your analogy was false.
Allocating money more efficiently, creating community organizations that lower crime rates, and yes, funding schools. Schools in these communities are still very poor and often do not have the rescources to perform well. So clearly if the money's there the efficiency isn't and if the efficiency is there the money isn't.
Yup school choice is important. Glad you agree. Public schools in inner cities are extremely well funded. They still fail. Efficiency is where school choice comes in.
How to enforce this?
You don’t enforce it. Incentivize it. Greyparrot laid out a great plan.
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@Greyparrot
That's exactly how you put down violent armed revolts. Lincoln did it.
Liberals can’t even protect themselves because they don’t believe in the Second Amendment. All of these riots have been a wake up call for Americans. Gun and ammo sales are through the roof.
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@Username
Joe Biden doesn't support defunding police either, but sure, support the "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" guy.
That’s a lie. He supports redirecting funds elsewhere. That’s defunding. Guess what? When people are out looting, people with guns will stand and protect their property.
I understand that police usually don't kill people. Great. What a high standard I hold them to. But during the protests/riots they're turning into a death squad, and yet the police comissioner comes out and cries over them being demonized by the media. All I ask is that police don't attack protestors, and act with some restraint. It's your job for christ sake.
What you’re advocating for is the police doing nothing while rocks and chemicals in bottles are thrown at them. What you’re advocating for is letting federal courthouses burn. What you’re advocating for is violence.
You're right. I guess the National Pancreatic Cancer Foundation should focus on skin cancer too because it's the most common type of cancer. That stupid foundation, always focusing on the smaller problems.
It’s a political organization where all the funds get diverted to Democratic candidates. They don’t give two shits about black people. They want to burn down the system. They want to abolish cops. And guess who would help them do that? Democrats. False equivalency fallacy.
School choice? Like having millions of poor Americans just move out to a different school, abandon the schools in their neighborhood, and fill up schools that are going to take a massive economic blow by sustaining all of these new kids? I doubt that'll do much, if school vouchers is what you're talking about here.
What’s your solution? Throwing more money at failed public schools in inner cities? Ya keep promoting failure.
What do you even mean by "embedding family values",
1. Graduating from high school.
2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.
3. Having a full-time job.
Following these three rules decreases your chance of landing in poverty drastically.
Yeah, I know that increased funding in poor black communities isn't going to fix everything. But there needs to be a proactive effort to improve all aspects of life there, and yes, we need to spend money on it.
Throwing more money hasn’t done anything for the last 5 decades and isn’t going to do anything. Keeping up failing public schools in inner cities at the behest of teachers unions who protect crappy teachers there is grounds for disaster.
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@Username
That's a big claim to go completely unsubstantiated. The Police are pro trump.
Your own source claimed the same union supported Joe is 08 and 12. Of course they’re going to support Trump. They don’t want to be defunded like you propose doing.
You sure give a lot of credit to police for not killing people. What a world we live in... Have you seen the videos? Like, at all? Have you seen this?
Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Back your claims up with statistics. The vast vast majority of police interactions result in no deaths. That’s statistically proven.
Black Lives Matter is a movement about police brutality, not "black on black crime".
Is that a bigger problem than black on black crime? Statistically? No.
I'm pretty sure that if Black Lives Matter actually did address black on black crime you wouldn't like it either. Something tells me that they'd be more into improving black communities by funding education and funding healthcare than echoing the classic "lol fix ur shit" Ben Shapiro talking point.
No. I’d fully support reducing black on black crime because I’m against crime. Inner cities get the most funding in terms of education and still they suck. School choice and embedding family values are the most important things for African Americans.
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@Username
So your solution is defunding the police? Gotcha. Police unions are what protect the bad actors. Conservatives have been against unions for a while now. Unions are the largest contributors to Democrats. So now tell me. Is the fact that 0.00000001% of police interactions result in deaths a larger problem than black on black violence? Are there bad cops? Definitely. Should they be punished? Sure. Is police brutality a bigger problem for Black Lives Matter than black on black violence? Nope.
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@Greyparrot
Chicago killed more blacks in a week than police killed all year. Your tolerance is whacked.
And Lori Lightfoot let it happen.
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@Greyparrot
These cities are such lol to watch right now. The excuses for 50 years of Democrat failure are endless.
tHeY aReN’t pROGreSsIVeS
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@Greyparrot
I had someone tell me that my Congressman who won by 10 points in 2018 was vulnerable this year to a Democrat who has 30k in the bank compared to a million. I have a picture with the dude. He’s a great guy
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@fauxlaw
Would you like to the honors?
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@HistoryBuff
antiquated system that skews power to rural areas.
Compared to a system where slavery and Jim Crow would still be legal. Yaaaaa, I’ll take the EC. Genius system of representation. If you feel you’re disenfranchised (you’re not), you’re more than welcome to move to Wyoming. Stuffs cheaper there anyways than California and New York.
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@HistoryBuff
because the polls were fairly accurate last time. The were off by a small margin in a few critical states. Those small errors allowed trump to lose the popular vote by millions of votes, but still steal a win because of an antiquated system that skews power to rural areas.If the polls were off by the same margin this time, Biden will win in an absolute landslide.
Did you even bother reading what fauxlaw wrote?
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@Greyparrot
Also, much of the rioting is going on in swing states. People are not going to support violence in November, and will remember (or be reminded) who allowed the riots to get out of control.
When a fifth of Americans wants statues of Jefferson and Washington taken down, we know we have a problem
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We’re also forgetting that if colleges are online, turnout in college towns in swing states is going to decline by a lot. Places like University of Michigan, University of New Hampshire, will have far lower turnout among young people which is crucial to Democrats. Colleges are the primary grounds where young people get registered as well
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@n8nrgmi
Only a 33-40% of Democrats support Joe because they like him. All the others just hate Trump. His support is thin. When Joe comes out of his basement to debate Trump, he is going to get crucified. Trump has been defined for 4 years. Joe Biden hasn’t.
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@Greyparrot
This is a typical Trump "protest"
Lmaoo
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I vtl pie
I thought you said NKing me was part of your plan? Like what?
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Why wouldn't they hide themselves so we didn't know who the others were?
Why would they? They’d pretty much win if 3 people died in DP1 and NP1 combined. Are 4 scum possible? Sure. Is it likely? I don’t think so.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I would assume also, but you'd think they would put that information out there. They want people to wear masks, wouldn't a story about an entire family or work place coming down with covid be a pretty good motivator?Just strikes me as very strange. The fact we have to assume they are being checked is also very strange, how do we not know for certain? because of the results? they don't help the narrative?
We were being mislead since the beginning by the “experts.” I still remember when everyone was saying masks are completely ineffective.
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As for the NL DP1, they still would’ve needed 2 townies to vote with them. On top of that they can cheat? That would be heavily balanced in scum favor. As for the Yakuza I’d assume only a straight flush or 5oK could do that. I’d be willing to bet good money that the second kill on NP1 was because of that. Yakuza seems way too OP especially if scum can do it multiple times.
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Why woukd they do that? Conversion via yakuza aside, if there were four why would they force NL? Why risk completely losing the game if they don't get the NK enough? They only win when all town are eliminated.
If there were 4 scum then Speed wouldn’t have been lynched DP2. Scum would’ve had the 5 votes necessary to vote any townie they wanted to.
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I’ve heard some states list “probable cases.” I’d assume family is included in this. I’d expect family is tested if one member has it though.
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I highly highly doubt there are 4 scum. Cause after Day 1 Mafia could’ve prevented any lynch from taking place if they chose to. Not to mention the quickhammers that could’ve taken place in the DP
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@PressF4Respect
What do you have planned then if RM flips town or there turns out to be 4 scum?
My way involves RM dying. If he’s town, then next DP we report any findings. If we don’t find mafia, VTNL again. We keep doing this until it’s 2-1 during which we re-evaluate all of the information me know. The key is randomization. Scum shouldn’t know who’s folding, who’s betting. If two people target the same people then it lends credibility to an extent. Cop investigations are key here. Essentially we do what we did the last two DPs. We can take our time and get investigations in along with tracks and watches in corroborations. Randomness is key. We have to keep scum guessing. In the DP each person should choose one person they will NK if they get it. We proceed from there
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Now that you have revealed cards, you have no reason to stay hostile even if you think I am scum. You should tell us the plans you have in mind.
There’s only one plan in my book. You dying.
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That is not a scum tactic, you dont even know what you are saying at this point. In my shoes who would you want NK'd?
Do whatever you want dude.
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Yup as usual I am the NK in every scenario. Textbook scum tactic. But whatever. Town brought themselves in this. A man can only do so much.
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I’m willing to bet my pants that RM’s plan doesn’t catch scum tomorrow. It never will.
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You know what fuck it. I’ll reveal my cards I’m gonna die tonight anyways cause town is ignorant.
2 of Diamonds and 4 of Spades
I’m folding tonight. Do whatever y’all want. I can guarantee you RM’s plan is going to fail tonight. Lynch me if you want.
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Croc and Pie, please out your hands, there is no reason not to.
1 for 1 me.
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@PressF4Respect
What does a tie mean exactly?
If I have 2 Tens and you 2 Tens and we both get the highest hand it’s a tie.
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@Vader
Classic strawman from scum. I never said he was flip flopping on his belief of cars revealing. He’s been flip flopping on all of his reads. First he thinks you’re the most town. Then he says you’re least town. He also says I’m town. Then he scumreads me for not wanting cards to be claimed. Then he goes back to town reading me. He also flip flops on 1 for 1. He agrees to the 1 for 1 if cards are revealed with you and him or me and him, but now he’s vehemently against it. It’s all in the DP. There’s nothing more I can say.
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@Vader
I would, but it looks like he is not budging at all with his belief
Cause he’s scum. He’s flip flopped and lied countless times during this DP.
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@Vader
RM said that, not me
I know he did. I’m just showing you another instance of his lies.
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@Vader
That's why I suggest him being the NK target if you flip town. If he is not killed and someone else is. I have no doubt he's scum
I am more then happy with this. Now convince RM.
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@Vader
Let's ignore that I bickered with someone who had a solid townread on me.
This is a lie. I never had a solid townread on RM. You can check the beginning of this DP.
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@Vader
My plan is we lynch Pie for the DP. If the flip occurs, if any of the town were to get the NK, they should kill RM.
RM doesn’t like this. I am perfectly fine with it. He’s flip flopped on 1 for 1 like 10 times this DP.
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@Vader
RM is another option. His plan technically would work done proper. But there is no way of knowing mafia's hand and roles they have. This leaves me worried he might set up something in general. His jumping to conclusions leaves me a bit worried as well.
This. There’s no freakin way any plan we make will be successful because we don’t know the the last two cards and mafia can cheat. Any plan we make will be manipulated by scum to their advantage. We literally cannot cover each other because we don’t know the last two cards.
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I told you I am not.
Scum bastard. Lynch me. As soon as I flip town, every townie will realize I’m telling the truth about your scumminess.
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And when they lynch me and I am town, how stupid will you look then?
I’m more than willing to die. Are you? And as I said earlier. I will openly apologize if I am wrong.
out your cards so we can plan the night phase.
No. Your plans are not fool proof and never will be even after all cards are revealed.
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Never have, never will.
What a liar. If town doesn’t see these lies coming, they deserve to lose. Please lynch me. I know I’m town. Hopefully after I flip town, everyone will finally listen to me.
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If they NK me they are stupid. I have been pro-town all game.
That’s what a 1 for 1 means dude. Do you agree or not?
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RM has agreed to a 1 for 1 with me. I urge everyone that if I’m lynched today to NK him tonight if you get the NK.
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@BearMan
RM is confirmed town for all I know. If anyone thinks he's mafia
Did you bother reading the DP?
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