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@Vader
RM is not a confirmed town. He’s a strong town. Confirmed means his role was verified. No one is verified at all
Why is RM strong town to you? Did you even bother reading the DP?
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I am now, only now, willing tot lynch ilikepie. If he demands 1 for 1 I still will do it. If he outs his cards I will unvote.VTL Ilikepie5
Do it please. You’re not getting my cards. You will be the NK tonight if I’m lynched. If you are not then you are scum.
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@Vader
Wrong. I had 2 Nines and then Joker, which went as 9
Ya that’s what I said l. Your hand was triple 9s
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@Vader
@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
@BearMan
If RM is alive and I’m dead I urge you all to read this DP closely. RM has flip flopped numerous times on issues. His excuses are scum motivated. I strongly strongly urge you to lynch.
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Do you get a rush typing those threats again and again? You've already said it.
Scum should die.
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There can be two scum and on top of that you and I are the only ones leading. Without us, they will fall apart and be far more susceptible to manipulation. On top of that it merely takes a lucky hand from scum to rip them to shreds.
I trust town. They don’t need us. They can think for themselves. You are going to die. Today, Tonight, or Tomorrow.
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No, I don't need to agree to such a thing. I want to be alove at night to use my role if I have one. I also want to ne er die as I am not scum and only potential scum targets should die from my POV. Your ultimatums and threats are ridiculous. When I die and flip town and long after this game is over and you see the flips, you will eat some humble pie and it will probably make you wonder why yoy got so furious in the first place at someone being nothing but tolerant and rational towards you all day phase long while you were abrasive, threatening and cruel.
I’ll be more than happy to apologize if I’m wrong. Put yourself up on the chopping block. I’m willing to. Are you? What do you have to fear? If we both are town, town will still survive.
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After we out cards. It also depends on supa's claimed hand.
I’ll only tell cards as soon as you agree to be lynched first.
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You are mentally deranged if you think it's only you or me who is scum if you're town. Idc if that's an insult. All day you've been saying it's me or someone else, first you then supa. I am town and I do not buy into this 1 for 1 retardation strategy especially not when we are this far ahead of mafia and can perfectly plan out the night period.
You’re the one who agreed to the 1 for 1 if Supa gets lynched first. Why do you need remain alive after everyone’s cards are revealed and we finish planning?
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So reveal cards, force me to get tracked. You are not any more entitled to rule this town than I am.
You’re going to die whether you like it or not. Either today tonight or tomorrow. I know you’re scum. You’ve flip flopped on my from town to scum to town. Your act is over dude.
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You say after. I say after. You say I'm antitown for that. Hypocrite.
Assuming you go for the 1v1 with Supa dude. If you 1 v 1 me right now. I’d be more than happy to be lynched as long as you agree to be lynched if you don’t die in the night.
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@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
@BearMan
RM is the NK whoever gets it. Though I have a vague suspicion RM as scum is going to cheat and get the NK and kill me. In this case he should be lynched next DP. He agreed to the 1 for 1 with Supa. He needs to die if he survives the night.
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@PressF4Respect
I can guarantee that either SupaDudz or Crocodile is scum. Both of them claimed cop, and Croc said he NK'd Oro last night. This can't be the case if both SupaDudz and Croc are cop (as Bullish stated that a tie would result in no NK being awarded). One of them is lying, so one of them is scum. We lynch one, kill the other, and we've basically won.
Croc claimed Three of a Kind with 10s while Supa did with Nines. Croc had the better hand.
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@Vader
Well if it comes down to my flip to determine a scum in Pie or to win, I’ll happily take that sacrifice if it means town will win game. I can card claim if you want.I still think Pie is most sus. I have no reason to question others right now
I am more than willing to die after RM dies. He continually rejects my 1 for 1 and is adamant that you’re scum and he’d 1 for 1 you only if we all reveal our cards and you get lynched instead of you. You on the other hand show your willingness to get lynched for the betterment of the time. Now ask yourself why RM isn’t willing to get lynched for the betterment of the town?
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@TheUnderdog
We could jail all the violent drug dealing gangs and then there would be no one to bail the gangs out.
How’s that working in Mexico right now? Imagine the lawlessness in Mexico rn within the borders of America and tell me you’re going to put these people in jail. El Chapo escaped from a maximum security prison in Mexico.
Most Hispanics aren't bribed by the cartels. The ones that are get jailed.
Then you my friend clearly don’t know how cartels operate. They control every aspect of an area. They openly kill and bribe police officers in Mexico. It’s easy to say they’ll get jailed in the US when they fear extradition to the US. But that’s because they don’t have the control they have here.
How? They won't have the money to do extortion.
You’re a bit naive dude. If the US can’t stop cartel money laundering worth billions of dollars annually how do you plan on stopping them with Mexican cops in the ranks. Mexican judges, etc. They literally live off the money of cartels dude. Literally imagine the US as the new Mexico.
The cartels haven't infiltrated every US institution.
That’s my point. They will. What are you going to do then?
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I am town and I do. Your suggestions are all fucking stupid today and honestly I do not care about a single post you make at this point. I will simply wait for others to post and interact with them.
You’re going to die period.
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@PressF4Respect
I’ll wait for you to finish reading rather than extending the DP even more.
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Give me the reason why not.
If you were town you’d have no problem with going first, especially if you believe Supa is scum.
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No. The real question is why when I agreed to it, you suddenly were unsatisfied with my agreemetn and changed the terms to be me getting lynched.
Again dodging. I agreed to compromise with you not agree with your deal. You said you’d agree to a 1 for 1 if we revealed our cards. I said let’s compromise. I’ll agree to the card reveal if you agree to be lynched first. Why are you afraid to be lynched first l? What difference does it make to you?
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I don't want to be lynched or killed but I am willing to be killed, not lynched.
I’m literally asking you why lmao. Yet you’re dodging.
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I should not be lynched or even NK'd in my ideal scenario. Only an idiot would want to be NK'd or lynched just so that their scumread gets taken down. I have seen pariah town do this before, it makes sense even when the entir etown scumreads you, to offer this sacrifice but that's only because you're doing it to stop the person you townread not get lynched (that's the only situation where it's optimal to do).
You’re dodging. You agreed to 1 for 1 with Supa if cards are revealed an Supa gets lynched. Why not you?
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it's not supa or me. I don't know where you got that idea.
You literally said you’d agree to the 1 for 1 if Supa was lynched first. Im asking you why should Supa be lynched first. Why not you?
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The compromise is only because the town seems to be under some kind of depressant drug influence. I do not need to beg you to reveal your cards, town needs to force you to. We have agreed to it 4-2.
I will only agree if you submit to a 1 for 1 with me or Supa and get lynched period. My intentions are genuine and they will be revealed upon my flip.
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@PressF4Respect
Can you please point me to the most relevant posts so I don't have to read through the whole thing?
It’s honestly best if you read the whole thing so you don’t miss the details. Take your time. We have a lot of time.
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I don't go first, Supa does. This entire bullshit 1 for 1 concept is some nonsense Pie came up with to scare me into not wanting to discuss the card revealing anymore.
You still haven’t answered why. And I gave you multiple options. I’ve compromised with you a number of times.
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@PressF4Respect
The one problem with scumreading him because of this is the fact that he said he would go first. Would scum do this (genuine question)?
Sure why not? They can cheat. We can’t. As a townie what fear does he have of getting lynched though? Why is he adamant on Supa being lynched? Why does he want to be alive for the night?
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@PressF4Respect
Why are you both agreeing to lynch/NK SupaDudz? I haven't finished reading all of the posts yet so I might be missing something.
Ya you need to finish reading to get context on what we’re talking about. If you have questions after I’d be more than happy to answer them.
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No. It is not the same either way around at all. It is a simple agreement. I am not okay with allowing Supadudz to enter the night phase.
Why? It doesn’t matter cause it’s a 1 for 1 right? Why can’t you be lynched?
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@PressF4Respect
Literally what incentive does RM have to staying alive after we reveal our cards to him? He literally wants to stay alive cause he’s scum and can cheat his way out of the NK.
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Okay I agree if I am the NK and not the lynch.
Nope you will be the Lynch. What difference does it make?
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@PressF4Respect
We most likely have 1 more scum, which means 5 town remaining. Every townie has a possibility to get any of the roles on the list, so roles can't be it. Given this, why would you be averse to dying in this game?
Read what I wrote to Croc.
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The 1 for 1 must be me dying at night, not Supa. I want to also see the cards and arrange things so my killer is caughtm even if they are town. We then need to make sure that the potential mafia claimign tracker on my killer are seen visiting the one who does the kill to ensure they really tracked etc.
We can do this before the DP ends when we lynch you. Why are you so adamantly against it?
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@Crocodile
Are you seeing this from RM? Literally think brother. If he’s town he shouldn’t be afraid of a 1 for 1 where he gets lynched first and then Supa is NK. It literally shows he wants to be alive after learning the cards of every single town player.
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No. Not at all. Reveal cards, lynch Supa and NK me after we arrange how to deal with the situation. I may have the best hand for all you know.
Nope. We reveal cards, we lynch you today after you tell us everything we need to know.
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Why not suggest the 1 for 1 to others and see how scared they are? Why do I need to agree to such a bullshit thing when I don't want to die in this game at all?
Literally a minute ago you were fine with 1 for 1 if you got cards. What changed?
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Not only has the vote been won 4-2 for revealing cards but you need to understand that nowhere in this do I get anything for risking my life in some absurd 1 for 1 push for a lynch that I never suggested or wanted in the first place. If I agree to it, I want something.
How about we compromise? We reveal cards and lynch you today and NK Supa? Sound fair?
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@PressF4Respect
If RM is town, why is he afraid of 1 for 1? What’s the difference with or without cards revealed? There is none. If he’s afraid of the 1v1 both being town, why is he agreeing to a 1v1 with cards?
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There is absolutely a string attached, I want card-reveal as the bargaining chip that makes me agree.
Nope. That’s not how 1 for 1 works. If Supa gets lynched then you die and vice versa. Stop running away. Why are you afraid of 1 for 1 without cards?
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@PressF4Respect
How many jokers are in a deck?
He already said 54 cards so 2 jokers.
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Do what you want, I don't even understand what you are saying at this point about me, Pie.
It’s simple. 1 for 1 me or 1 for 1 Supa. No strings attached.
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@BearMan
Hold up. Why are we lynching supa? What made him sus?
I’m all aboard the RM wagon rn. He’s flip flopping between me and Supa for no reason
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There should be no third aim where as town you can suddenly justify lynching town who is acting 'anti-town'. You want 1 for 1 so badly and based on that currently it appears you'd be lynched and not me, I townread that aggression a lot. Therefore, I do not want this 1 for 1 as I believe you are town. It is extremely simple to understand. On top of being aligned with town, other than this fiasco with you not understanding why card-revealing is optimal for town, you have otherwise been very constructive for the town
Idc who you 1 for 1. But you need to 1 for 1 someone right now without any strings attached. And this is such a reversal. Scum reading me for my position on the cards and now backtracking saying I’m town. I get why you’d roleblock me. Cause you’re afraid of me.
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Strings should be attached when only one party wants the 1 for 1.
Why’re you so afraid dude? 1 for 1 the way it’s intended
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No I don't agree
Good for you.
if we do card reveal on top of it, then i agree
So you can manuver your way out? No strings should be attached with a 1 for 1.
also why use the term 'shank' that is a violent threat.
It’s synonymous to kill in this context.
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@Crocodile
It has both benefits and things that are detrimental to us.
We’ve been successful these past two nights. Why risk mafia knowing our exact plans?
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No card reveal. I am willing to lynch Supa if and only if everyone can guarantee me that if I die RM gets shanked immediately.
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