ILikePie5

A safe lynch might be that2 and she can sub in for the other guy as well if she is town so we destroy a liability and get a replacement that is normally easy to read.

Unvote VTL that2

I feel there is a good chance pie is scum here but I also feel guilty because a few games back I had that feeling and got him lynched DP1. Or maybe I was scum that game and pushed it I can't remember but I feel like I was town when I lynched him. 

My role has a confirmation mechanic. I personally my role would likely put me in the town pile but others may disagree with it.

Did you mean this as a loophole to potential anti-claim?

... Actually, what does "fake claiming mechanic" even mean here? Is that the one where scum guesses characters and gets told if they exist?

my death and the myth i survived plays into my role, i am so popular i am the beloved princess, if i die the next day is skipped

There’s three potential people you could be claiming but the wording is so messed up, that

It leaves me wondering if it was Casey that messed up or a scum fake claim gone wrong.

I have all the characters and roles planned out already (and had done so by the time I posted this thread), but I still have to write some of the PMs. If you're that impatient, though, I can send you yours today. 

/in, would prefer a start date of Sunday or later (Passover starts Friday, birthday same day, driving down to see family over the next couple of days)

“2) Mafia were not given fake claims but were given a hint about what to not claim. Mafia were also given a hint on a role that does not and does exist in this game”

How did the double nightkill happen then?

i did lmfao

vader fucked up

yeah no I'm cop, it's more likely there's a dreamer + cop than there be a doc and a bodyguard, when we know for a fact there's a godfather.

I would be pissed of That2 received an action NP1 because that is contrary to what Vader told me.

My point was that you never explained it.

No, it’s a normal step to lock people into fake claims early. I’m not looking for info, I’m looking to catch scum off guard. And besides, no one liked the idea so I backed off. My thing would require everyone on board but claiming at L-2 needs on three people.

Wait, so are you pro information or against it? I get that we should be pursuing claims, but when we have at least a little to go on we should go on that first, then go randomly.

I'm Bobby Baccalieri. Since my character is one of the nicer characters, I'm vanilla. The logic is that since I am reluctant to commit crime, and avoided commiting murder until I absolutely had to, I'm a pretty simple character and thus, vanilla.

Okay, so you've been busy, but can you explain where your read on Earth comes from? 

Of all of them Pie put me at L-1 for little reason, so he’s the one I scumread most on the wagon. I was going more in likelihood that actual reads though since DP1 reads are so flimsy.

Really though, I wasn’t too interested in who on that wagon specifically was scum, it’s just the idea of claiming at L-2 for no good reason that I was adverse too. If mafia can quickly grab 1-2 people and go hunting claims while nobody else is watching, then we’re just setting them up for easy fake-claims.

I’m not against DP1 scum hunting, but it shouldn’t be random. I wholeheartedly agree with what Casey said, we need to be following up on leads, not poking around blindly. It’s too easy for scum to get info, especially if we haven’t done any real soft-claims.

Casey is town af btw

So... is that the reason your vote is still on me, then? Because your other basis for voting me doesn't match with my response, and I have been more responsive. I'm not sure what more you're looking for at this point beyond a renewed set of reads.

Not really clear why you’re writing off Pie, even after reading through your posts about it a couple of times. You just said Pie wouldn’t advise this despite having fake claimed Vanilla in at least one previous game I can recall (I’ll have to look it up tomorrow, I’m fading fast). I get the read on WyIted being town overcoming any potential sus for defending the claim.

As for my claiming, I’m going to need some basis for doing that aside from just being null to you, which is all I can see from your reads absent the above discussion. You said at one point that I’m in “your lean scum camp,” but I didn’t see a reason after that apart from the hard bus argument. If you’ve got a reason to sus me, I’d like to see it before I claim anything. It feels doubly weird coming after my claim partly on the basis that there’s “momentum” when all of that momentum comes from Pie and Pie’s entire reason for pushing me is that I might be on a scum team with Moozer, who I have stated outright is my preferred lynch.

Lastly, Pie. He feels different to me somehow. His posts seem a bit more terse than usual. Typically, Pie is very open and transparent about his thought process and posts a lot while he's active and online. This game, he feels more reserved, and I feel like I understand his thought process a lot less. I don't think he's scum with Moozer for reasons I've already explained, but I can see him being scum with Earth or WF. Saying "I like Earth's response" feels really weird to me when Earth hasn't really said anything of substance. I don't understand where that townread comes from.

Well fine I just won't hunt down the posts. He is usually ultra cautious as scum in my opinion and it is really similar behavior as town but he seemed to have an IDGAF attitude in response to a few posts which I don't think he would have had as scum.