ILikePie5

I think we're gravitating toward a moozer lynch, which I'm fine with. He's not screaming "lynch me" the same way Savant was last game, but still a good choice. My read on him is weak enough though I would also be happy to lynch earth, who has made 7 posts total this DP.

He was null for me in my last read list, I am generally always a bit weary of him. He did say he doesn't have as much interest in this theme based on lack of knowledge and explained thats why hes been a bit inactive. But idk, whiteflames scum play isn't usually based around inactivity, I expect him to put an effort in as scum usually so it’s just null to me. 

There's plenty of ways to generate discussion that don't involve pushing people for claims completely at random. Thematic discussion, for one thing. I know that on Mafia Universe, lots of games have Anticlaim mechanics which punish character claiming, and statistically speaking, the town still wins more often than not. If you only know one way to play as town, maybe you just need to improve your game. 

I have some more thoughts on Moozer, but right now I'd like to ask everyone: if Moozer is scum, who do you think the partner is? 

I don't know what the hell you're asking. Adamant about what? I claimed last game with no pressure and then claimed this game only with pressure. Not adamant on anything.

That's cause last game my char - role had little relation. This game it's super obvious. 

I'm Vin Makazian. You can guess what that is.

It’s the only reason I am giving moozer a pass, because its a supa meta, but the character justification only really fits for early in the show and ignores a ton of character development. 

Why the fuck are yall even voting me. No call to action from that2's vote, none from pie's vote, none from wylted's vote.

Have I really been that inactive this game?

I found this post by Moozer.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12538-the-sopranos-mafia-dp1?page=3&post_number=86

This post he folds under a very slight bit of aggression. Like he's very uncomfortable with attention on him and he is criticizing any attempt to gain information as lunatic is pointing out. Almost feels like a way of preparing to say "I told you not to go that direction"

If we lynch Moozer and he flips scum than we can likely clear anyone he defended prior to me posting this and giving him a chance to correct. So he defended that2 and Casey I believe. If Moozer is scum that would most likely put them firmly in the town category and give a very narrow POE

moozer

Pie

I also admit that my town reads are usually better than my scum reads but I feel like moozer is an exception and he seems genuinely scummy.

Moozer- Null slight scum?- I don't really give moozer the noob pass anymore so I kind of find  some of his takes weird, and ultimately don't understand what his town goals and motivations are. He seems to be okay with town offering information, but when we specify any sort of target for a claim, he gets defensive for that person. First it was that2user, now it’s casey. He wants information, but doesn't want town to pursue it? I don't understand what his actual goal here is, and I feel like he may be scum using inside information of known town players to get defensive over these players, in the off chance one is lynched he can say "I told you so" because I literally see no other reason he is randomly defending people in dp1 like this.

iLikePie5- Null very slight scum?- Not basing this off of much but the fact that he still seems to be eager to pursue that2user, which I initially hopped on that wagon as well but backed off when she made a pretty prominent soft claim. It's been pointed out to pie that she has but he still hasn't really backed off of it. I get that may be partially related to him not knowing the theme (I could be wrong on my assumption as well), but his attachment here seems oddly aggressive, and I do think that2 is putting a bit more effort in than the last game, so the established reason for pressing her seems to be less impactful here. I expect a bit more activity from pie as the day phase progresses. 

Let's lynch casey. Last game it was down to you, me, vader, casey, and wylted. 

Wylted obviously wasn't voting himself. You wanted to vote wylted but didn't have enough votes. Vader made the wrong choice but he's the mod. That leaves casey to be the weak link when it comes to lynching scum. Let's lynch them now.

I wanna lynch between casey and pie, for voting me last game and preventing a flawless town victory. 

VTL Casey

Describe your character without claiming.

She softed a mainish character 

Isn't the theme split with shows and stuff usually just good guys vs bad guys? There's no analysis necessary here. How about we do another round of soft claims just to lock everyone down to a character without out right claiming? 

My char had an ok-good relationship with tony, as far as I can tell

i want everyone to say their relationship to tony soprano

i will full claim when I'm in e-1

i want everyone voting me (wyIted,whiteflame,pie) to character claim

i am female

Hello all. I am currently doing theme research for this game, as I don't know much about the soprano's but it’s always been a show in the back of my mind to watch. I probably won't be able to binge watch this like I did with castlevania in preperation for it, but I will do my best with the limited theme knowledge I have to contribute. 

Ultimately why I changed it to double town, less issues functionally but the idea seemed cool if you could make it work mechanically. What did you think of basically being two people 

It's the only way to make it fair with 2 wincon lol. How would you do it

Bro you only get the wincon of the last one alive . That's how it would play out

Assuming town just let you live like they did and assume your town confirmed

Pies role was initially going to be one scum one one town, and he wouldnt know which was which to force him into choosing a side. I decided it would be too obvious though and scrapped that idea and put in wylteds role instead. Ironically a lot more people town confirmed pie than I figured would, which is surprising considering my original intentions with the role. 

The no lynch today was because I could only win here with a no lynch

Town came in like a train on this one

I want to think about this a bit more than what is given. Pretty easily could just say fuck it and be done but I want to make sure all the alternatives are right here.

I find it hard to believe that there is no investigative versus 2 protectors. I think we lose more if we keep Bullish alive. Either way game is essentially solves

VTL Bullish

This is absolutely insane. To fucking hold up the game for this nonsense. I don't know why we are pushing it to another DP. I could see pie pulling this exact same bullshit tomorrow and making another excuse not to lynch Bullish. 

We have to drag out the game another 3 DPS due to silliness.

Fucking hammer Bullish and stop being a silly goose