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@ethang5
@Greyparrot
@HistoryBuff
lol so the difference between your ancestors and the current illegal immigrants is your ancestors murdered the people who already lived here and stole the land. The current illegal immigrants just want a chance to live here with the current inhabitants. I guess it is a false equivalency, your ancestors are much worse.
Yup and that’s why you learn from history and prevent unfettered immigration, but thanks for the concession anyways.
those 2 things have nothing to do with each other. Immigrants increase the tax base, increasing tax revenue and making it easier to take care of homeless and the veterans.
So having more people reduces our problems? Then why do problems exist lol. Magically saying more immigrants = more taxes is blatantly false especially if they come here with nothing and live on welfare for a couple of years.
I have no idea why people on the right argue we can't spend money doing something good because there is some other good thing we could do. The answer is really simple, put taxes at a reasonable level and then do both.
The answer is pretty simple. The obligation of the President is to legal aliens. Not to mention good is subjective. If I can feed 20 people a day, I should because it’s “good.” If people are “good” then we wouldn’t have hunger problems right now. Deal with the fact that human nature is inherently designed for self preservation. Those are the laws of nature. You can mitigate their effects but you can’t take them away. At the end of the day if it’s 3 illegal aliens for myself and my spouse I’m going to choose myself and my spouse. You call it greed. I call it my moral obligation to my family. That’s why we all ask, if you want to supoort an illegal alien in your house, go right ahead, but coincidentally every time that question is asked, people get the gitters. You can say we should help illegals, but how many can we help? Resources are limited as I’m sure you know as it’s the Fundamental Rule of Economics. You may say “as many as we can support” but that inherently lowers my standard of living and increases their until it’s right down in the middle, and no one would support their family’s condition deteriorate just so that some they don’t even know gets a better life. And don’t get me wrong. I believe in charity. What I don’t believe in is forceful charity, because at that point it isn’t charity.
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@HistoryBuff
virtually everyone is descended from immigrants means that I support slavery.
Difference here is that we have the means to prevent illegal immigration and restrict it. Native Americans couldn’t because the Europeans had far superior technology and resources. It’s a false equivalency.
Basically, both republicans and establishment democrats actively screw over the poor because they are bought and paid for corporatists.
Then why tf would you want to legalize illegals and accept more immigrants, when our focus should be who the homeless and veterans? Joe Biden is your typical “left” wing politician, yet you’d still vote for him because Trump is bad.
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@HistoryBuff
So you are fine with large sectors of the american economy collapsing?
Welcome to 1865
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@Imabench
It certainly doenst roll off the tongue yeah, but it still seems like it would work better than a Biden/Sanders ticket or a Biden/Clinton ticket XD
Biden/Clinton sounds appealing ngl
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Biden/Cortez-Masto looks weird tho.
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@RationalMadman
<br>Liar. You can twist it any way you want, it is a lie. Democrats will always care for the poor infinitely more than Republicans, it's an absolute fact.
Would you like me to link posts where Democrats are putting their wishlist into the bill as BMD mentioned?
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@fauxlaw
”Tolerant Liberals” 🙄🙄
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The whole man made climate change thing is a myth. Objective data backs it up.
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@dustryder
Standing OLC opinion and practice dictates that presidents may not be indicted.
He has the power to go to Congress and ask for impeachment right? Cause that’s what happened in the case of Special Counsel Ken Starr. Why didn’t he do that? Oh wait, he didn’t have enough evidence and therefore could convict.
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@dustryder
it's that Mueller *did* find crimes contrary to what ethang5 claims.
Why didn’t he convict then 🤔
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@dustryder
If there’s not enough evidence, a person cannot be convicted, hence he’s innocent. Any logical person would say he’s innocent. The not exonerated talking point is stupid and only serves as a base for more investigation in the hopes they get Trump the next time.
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Why has GP not claimed yet? Kinda concerned about that. He and Ragnar are my policies if we don’t anything going.
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@Lucky
White people aren’t racist? White people aren't privileged? Delusional.
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@Greyparrot
Uses liberal sources to contradict a “right wing source.” #Logic
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@Greyparrot
The Constitution—not Congress—created the Office of the President. Congress, accordingly, cannot require the President to disclose his finances or otherwise expand or alter the office's qualifications. Yet the D.C. Circuit never should have reached these issues because the Committee lacks express statutory authorization to subpoena the President.An express statement from the Court should be required given the separation-of-powers issues that are raised by unleashing every committee to subpoena every president for his personal records. This Court traditionally grants certiorari when the President has been subjected to novel legal process and seeks review. The Court has recognized that the President’s objections merit “respectful and deliberate consideration.” Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681, 689-90(1997). This approach is not out of concern for any“particular President,” but for the sake of “the Presidency itself.” Trump v. Hawaii, 138 S. Ct. 2392,2418 (2018). This case should be no exception.
A freakin men.
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I’m concerned even after Joe insults voters, he gets a free pass. If it was Trump they’d crucify him
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@fauxlaw
Longest filibuster in history by Democratic South Carolinian Storm Thurmond
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@Greyparrot
I think he should leave debate mode in the debate section.
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@Greyparrot
No normal person refuses to uses the 2nd person in a typical back and forth dialogue.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone not use 2nd person in back and forth dialogue
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@Greyparrot
Oro is arguing semantics with you. He fails to argue my questions, instead just dodging them cause he knows he’s wrong.
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@oromagi
I think Schumer meant "pay the price" literally, in it's actual dictionary sense rather than one of it's many possible figurative senses. Just as sometimes (most times) when the Boss says he has to terminate an employee, he does not mean he intends to kill that employee, Schumer meant that Republicans would incur the negative consequences of overturning abortion (and in the next sentence identified those consequences as electoral failure in November) and did not mean that he intends to kill Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.
That’s not what I asked. Schumer mentioned by name that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch would pay the price. It’s a simple question really. What price are they going to pay? He didn’t say Republicans are going to pay the price, the 2 justices are.
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@oromagi
can u answer post 27, forgot to ping
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@Dr.Franklin
Censuring GP for something Schumer did = logic
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@Greyparrot
Idk how you deny the fact that what Schumer said was a threat when he said it.
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Interesting. What “price” will Kavanaugh and Gorsuch pay considering they were mentioned by name. Can you say what the price they will pay? It’s not directed to Senate Republicans or Legislatures. It was directed directly towards the two justices. In your opinion what is the price the justices would pay, cause normally when people say you’re going to pay, that’s a threat🤷♂️.
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@oromagi
Simple yes or no question. Did Schumer threaten Gorsuch and Kavanaugh?
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John Roberts better not become the new Kennedy because of these threats
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@Greyparrot
On the plus side, we can lay that "money controls politics" myth to bed.
Next debate going to be fun. The B word is gonna come out so much
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@Greyparrot
Socialist Alert, Putin Alert, Russian Alert, we need to get a FISA Warrant ASAP
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@Vader
They don’t realize that Biden would fail miserably in a debate with Donald Trump. He hasn’t stood out in one debate this year. He’s only winning because the goons in the DNC hate Sanders. Biden didn’t do shit. The DNC did everything. Talk about corruption Joe. How do Bernie supporters vote for him?
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@Dr.Franklin
I sure hope it is. A tenth of Sanders supporters would never vote Pedo Joe. I’m waiting to see HB defend Joe🤷🏼♂️
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@Greyparrot
Pedo Joe has entered the chat.
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@Vader
The DNC comes in again to the steal the day. Time to elect Joe Biden to the Senate
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@Greyparrot
Still crickets from HB
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@Greyparrot
It’s ominous that HB won’t answer my question about the House choosing Trump per the 12th Amendment
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@HistoryBuff
You still haven’t answered my question...
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@HistoryBuff
why would that happen?
It’s a hypothetical that I’m curious what your thoughts on it are
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@HistoryBuff
It’s a pretty simple question. If no one gets 270 and it goes to the House and they choose Trump, would you be fine with that?
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@HistoryBuff
In a 269-269 tie the House would select Trump as the President. Would you support that?
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@HistoryBuff
What are your thoughts on the 12th Amendment?
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@bmdrocks21
I meant that if Bernie loses legitimately, does that kill the progressive movement in your party off? Because getting robbed just pissed you guys off and probably strengthened that movement. Seems like this would take off momentum.
Last time 12% of Bernie supporters voted Trump, and he lost legitimately then as well. If the percentage stays the same Biden is definitely screwed. Progressives and young people won’t come out for Joe or will vote Trump.
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@bmdrocks21
What do you think will happen if:a) Sanders gets robbed again
Bienvenido Donald J. Trump
Bienvenido Donald J. Trumpb) Sanders loses legitimately(in terms of the future of the party)
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