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@Greyparrot
Guilty until proven innocent society.
Us men gotta stick together in the MeToo Era
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UNVOTE
I want everyone to go on record saying who their scumreads are
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@Wylted
I urge everybody next dp,to not vote at all until we have decided as a team who to lynch.
+1
Btw we should be forcing everybody to go on record with their reads.
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@Mharman
I agree but just to put it out there my top scumreads are Oro and Club.
VTNL
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@Speedrace
If Wylted is town this implicates, Oro, Club, and F4 in that order. I don’t like this push on someone that was inactive for pretty much the whole game without giving him the chance to defend himself. I will wait till he replies.
I don’t like Oro because a push this hard on an inactive seems like something he’d only do as scum and it screams opportunism. Club didn’t want to lynch the whole time last DP and suddenly claims he’s “joining the wagon.” F4, idek what he’s doing. Lmk your thoughts.
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@Vader
Oops sorry, I guess I should’ve read the entire thing before responding
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@NotClub
Sorry guys, I was busy with school and stuff. Had a test or quiz in every class the past two days. It was rough.
WE DO NOT VTNL first DP, what part about that do you not understand?
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Btw for post 69, if y’all can’t tell, the “opportunistic much” was sarcasm.
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@warren42
@Speedrace
Definitely Town
WaterPhoenix - Voting your OMGUS is a town thing to do for beginners.
Speedracer - he asked if this was role madness earlier meaning that either town Vanilla or a goon. Goons would know their teammates so no point in asking if partner was a goon
Right now I’d vote for one of the inactives unless a better alternative is presented. With that said I’m concerned about F4 buddying the hell out of you Warren. I don’t scumread you Warren (you lean town), but no one jumped on your train of thought except F4 right away. Speed supports your analysis but only after you specifically asked him for his take.
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@Speedrace
You were on 39 minutes ago and didn't respond to anythingSuspicious much?
Opportunistic much? Relax I got carried away with homework. I’m doing it rn. Yo boi has to maintain his 4.6 GPA
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@bmdrocks21
Looks like I'm probably voting for Trump.
Welcome to the team
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@NotClub
The one time I trust you....and of course you get manipulated by F4 and vote me. Sigh
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@warren42
That sounds like a fake-deep sounding way of saying “lol I don’t know”
Ok
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@NotClub
I trusted you buddy and didn’t vote you. Have some trust and vote with me. It’s pretty obvious F4 is scum since you and I aren’t.
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@PressF4Respect
I don’t have to. It’s quite obvious. If Club was mafia he’d have hammered you by now and since he didn’t, he’s not mafia and I’m not either so you have to be.
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@warren42
I thrive on unpredictability until there is an absolute
UNVOTE
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@PressF4Respect
Seeing Club didn’t hammer you or me, he’s clearly town. I’m town, so process of elimination, you’re scum. Checkmate.
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@PressF4Respect
It’s obvious. You killed Supa cause he was the most active after Speed. Club is easy to manipulate and I’d be easy to frame. Plus Club would’ve killed you . Hence you’re scum
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@Imabench
Stupidity deserves to be pointed out as stupidity..... If the person being stupid in the first place is too incompetent to understand their own mental shortfalls, and have no hope of being a functioning person in the future, they should at least be put on a pedestal for others to witness how not to be a complete idiot like the person in question, as has now been demonstrated very sufficiently with Pie5.
You’re stupid, there, I called you out for it.
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@Greyparrot
Trump's ability to pack stadiums with people outside watching jumbotrons is a huge problem for mainstream media because every one of those people will talk to 10 other people, and some of them may wake the hell up and stop following the gaslight narratives.
Tell that to Mr. Ableist.
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@Imabench
Oh so now I’m mentally disabled. Wow you’re ableist af. Congrats!
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@Pinkfreud08
I mean I understand that IlikePie is clearly misrepresenting your overall points and it's frustrating however there is no need to be this rude and hostile.
His overall points have nothing to do with this. My claim was that Trump is more popular today than on Election Day. You can twist it and turn it all you want, but at the end of the day that’s a fact, and I challenge you or anyone to prove otherwise. This whole argument is based upon a phrase I said - “Trump is more popular today than he was on Election Day.”
Now you can say his approvals are still underwater compared to other Presidents. I wholeheartedly agree. But tha doesn’t change the fact that Trump is clearly more popular in swing states today than Election.
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@Imabench
Jesus Christ, you're completely fucking illiterate arent you?I cant imagine how much of an utter dumbass you have to be in order to view challenges + complete takedowns of your arguments as somehow being concessions and agreements, but somehow you have managed to achieve the right combination of both ineptitude and stupidity to pull it off.Do yourself a favor, along with the rest of society, next time you think you know what you're talking about for once in your life, just stick to coloring books and other activities that help develop basic cognitive skills, because you need all the help you can get.
Womp womp. Looks like someone can’t concede. Oh and btw liberals are the ones that need safe spaces and coloring books not conservatives. Help your own people.
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1) Trump's presidency began on his inauguration day not on election day itself. Popularity on election day and any point before the actual inauguration day itself is irrelevant, especially before the person in question has even stepped foot in the White House.....
So you concede that I was right when I said Trump is more popular today than on Election Day 2016 right? Glad we agree.
2) Your sources all compare Trump's favorability to that of Hillary Clinton's from the election day polls, not a neutral baseline standard for which popularity is to be measured, which you promptly failed to understand and wrap your brain around in addition to a vast majority of everything else in this conversation.
And if you look back I specifically said that Trump has to keep his opponent’s approvals underwater as well. Glad we agree on that as well.
Sure you can quantify it. A honeymoon period for a president is the period of time at the beginning of a first term that normally varies anywhere from six to months to a year where the general public shows higher approval of a president in terms of job performance, before shifting back towards 50% as the term proceeds..... For Obama it was about a year, for Bush W it was 3 years (though the 9/11 attacks completely reset the starting points early on in his term), For Bill Clinton it was 8 months (https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx) for Reagan and Carter it was about a year, and for Ford it was about 3 months (https://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx)
Obama and Bush were more popular than Trump on Election Day hence their approval on inaugural’s day would be significantly higher than Trump’s. 50% has no meaning since their approval rating were well above Trump’s inherently Trump’s are gonna be lower than those two since he was less popular in Election Day.
Trump meanwhile out of the gate started with disapproval ratings above 44%, which promptly jumped up to 50% in barely a month, and from that point on has always been underwater.
Cause his approvals on Election Day were crap, he’s bound to have less approvals than Obama or Bush or the others.
That's not the case though..... It's simply your belief that those numbers are inflated and that Trump is more popular than what current polls imply because of your lack of understanding on where to begin measuring his popularity and how to measure it properly to begin with
Im saying the honeymoon period numbers are inflated, which you clearly agree with lol.
Youve conceded that Trump is more popular today than on Election Day. Checkmate.
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@Imabench
You are spinning this so hard lol. I’m discussing the change in approval on ELECTION DAY 2016 and comparing it to TODAY. Point me to a source that says on ELECTION DAY not inaugural day. You clearly do not know what a honeymoon period is. You can’t quantify it cause it varies for each President. The point I made was that the numbers are inflated on inaugural day compared to what the people actually think about the President. Stop spewing liberal talking points. I’ve proved that Trump is more popular today than on Election Day 2016.
Call in whoever you want to analyze my sources. Trump was very unpopular on Election Day per my sources but now is unpopularity is much less meaning he’s gotten more popular. If you can’t comprehend that then I can’t help you
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@Imabench
Lmao I already told you. The honeymoon period at the start are of a Presidency inflates the approval rating making it susceptible to a high drop. You are intentionally misleading people or being mislead yourself. Clearly the opinion on Trump is higher today than it was on Election Day 2016 and that’s what I said earlier.
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@Imabench
2016 Opinions on Election Day:
Wisconsin: https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/wisconsin/president (35/64)
Pennsylvania: https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/pennsylvania/president (42/56)
Michigan: https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/michigan/president (39/59)
North Carolina: https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/north-carolina/president (41/58)
Most Recent Approvals:
Wisconsin: https://www.wpr.org/marquette-poll-trumps-approval-rating-remains-below-50-percent-wisconsin (45/53)
Pennsylvania: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/ (44/53)
Michigan: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/ (42/55)
Florida: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/ (48/48)
North Carolina: https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/ (47/49)
Overall people hated Trump but hated Hillary more, which is why he won. Like I said his a bit more popular right now than on Election Day. You’re going off of the honeymoon period that every President has. It’s inherently flawed lol.
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@Dr.Franklin
Its not about the timing, you cant negotiaite with terrorists
Ending a conflict that has cost trillions of dollars over more than a decade is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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@Imabench
Figures that the four people who decide to respond all share the same brain cell
Nice ad hominem
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@Speedrace
Communism is political. Socialism is economic. The two work hand in 🤚
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