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@WyIted
Looks like Luna already knows who you are then, and I guess I do as well with basic research, so scum are aware
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Oh wait, they changed Annette to black cause of “muh diversity”
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@WyIted
Annette is black bro.
What wiki are you looking at
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney - Male
7. Casey - Maria Renard
8. That2 - Annette (Female)
9. WyIted - Male
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@WyIted
Let’s go after Casey. What had she done to move the game forward?
VTL Casey
VTL Casey
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@WyIted
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@Savant
I said "in this case that2 is just a noob." As in that's why they weren't posting. I wasn't saying it was impossible for them to be scum.Is your affiliation confirmable?Yes
Fair enough.
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@Vader
Looking at the DP and looking at previous DP1's, I also kind of have an FoS on Pie. Him pushing for info isn't like him besides in the last game where it actually benefitted. Even then his behavior has been kind of different from what is normally. Idk it seems a bit more fluff and then some analysis versus looking at everyone
I’ve actually done this in other games. And there’s really not much to look at so far cause of low activity. If anything, I’m increasing it
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@Savant
Almost every game, someone sees Jesus in a piece of toast. These "scum slips" don't disproportionately catch scum, in fact scum is far more likely to be careful with their wording to avoid such accusations. Every game, people (mostly Pie) expect scum to accidentally say "oh yeah I'm scum" or "I 100% know this guy is town" and then they twist some vaguely written post to mean that. If it's ever worked in the past, it was luck. I can pretty confidently say that I've never scum slipped, though I've been accused of it as both affiliations.
I’m pretty sure your first game as scum, you got caught because of a scum slip.
Does anyone want to come forward with an example of a time they legitimately scum slipped as scum and got called out on it? Because in my experience that has never happened.
It’s happened more often than you would expect
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@Savant
WyIted said that and then voted for that2. I was saying that that2 low posting was not alignment indicative.Also I will be confirmed later, so I'm not saying anything about my role today.
That doesn’t make sense though. Cause being a noob =/= not scum
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Wait Post 69 implies Savant knows That2 is town cause Wylted said he believes scum always have a low poster and Savant said that’s not the case here.
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@Casey_Risk
Eh, I'm not sure that really means anything here. Savant only brought up That2's supposed noob status because she hadn't said anything yet at that point.
What does not posting have to do with being a noob?
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@Lunatic
@Barney
@Vader
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
Thoughts on above?
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@Savant
VTL savant
Odd that he thought That2 was a noob because he hadn’t played with her, yet said nothing last game about Bullish being a noob. It’s a weird assumption to make
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney - Male
7. Casey - Female
8. That2 - Annette (Female)
9. WyIted - Male
Okay so we’ve limited fake claims somewhat at the very least.
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Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey - Female
8. That2 - Annette (Female)
9. WyIted - Male
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@Savant
Sometimes that's true, but in this case that2 is just a noob.
What makes you say that?
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Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey - Female
8. That2
9. WyIted - Male
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@WyIted
1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic - Male
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey - Female
8. That2
9. WyIted - Trans?
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey - Female
8. That2
9. WyIted
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant - Male
3. Lunatic
4. Austin - Female
5. Vader - Hector (Male) - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey
8. That2
9. WyIted
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1. Pie - Male
2. Savant
3. Lunatic
4. Austin
5. Vader - Hector - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey
8. That2
9. WyIted
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How about we state what sex we are: Male vs Female. Should cut fake claims by half right?
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@Savant
We can lynch the miller if we have no other options, but going after them early is just the lazy choice.
I agree, but Luna has always been anti miller policy, which is why I’m asking
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@Lunatic
Are you finally going to join me on the Miller policy grind?
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1. Pie
2. Savant
3. Lunatic
4. Austin
5. Vader - Hector - Miller
6. Barney
7. Casey
8. That2
9. WyIted
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@Savant
Yeah, that's fair. I wouldn't say I'm totally opposed to everything you're saying, just that "if everyone invests in the s and p 500 it would get overinflated" isn't necessarily true. Or that there are probably workarounds.
There is a workaround because a million other asset classes and indices exist, as well as a million stocks with consistent results. You diversify the assets. It’s literally how a retire fund for teachers works.
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@n8nrgim
there are a couple things wrong with the way you look at what i said. if everyone just invests indexes and hopes future genrations do too, that'd be more of a ponzi scheme than what people currently call social security.
I never said just stocks. You can invest in a portfolio of assets and difference asset classes. Diversification is key to any portfolio.
eventually people would stop putting money it it. stocks are limited to how profitable they are, based on the stocks earnings.
That’s not true. Most stock valuations even right now are far above their intrinsic valuations.
if everyone keep funneling money into indexes or certain stocks, the price of the stock would be super inflated and not tethered to the acutal earnings. it's like a ponzi scheme if it is divorced from fundamentals like profit, as investment advisors talk about.
By that logic, no one should invest in the stock market because true values do not equal intrinsic valuations. And the issue with this statement is that you’re right, returns would fall, but that means other assets are worth more because opportunity cost always exists. If flooding money into an 8% return asset brings the return down to 6%. I take my money out and put it into a 7% asset, and the cycle goes on and on.
the other problem with your view, is instead of funnelling it into four o one k's or indexes as you say, we could just keep the current pay as you go system.
And that system is going to be insolvent very soon. So that’s not an option
that's the same difference, only it's a guarantee, and its not subject to the whims of people's voluntarily or not investing into a ponzi scheme stock market.
The stock market isn’t a ponzi scheme lol. Youre also forgetting that stocks aren’t perpetual. Some go away and new ones take its place. So on and so forth. And people get to choose where to put their money.
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@n8nrgim
i already addressed that, and you didn't respond to it. only so much money can go into the market while still being profitable based on earnings. if too much goes it, it would be overinflated and lead to poor future returns. it'd be volatile too much.
What do you mean “profitable based on earnings.” The stock market runs on perception of stocks. All you’re doing is basically just building another 401(k) which millions of people already do. It’s their money, they can choose to invest it in whatever they want, but they cannot withdraw before 65. At the same time make it an option to do this, not a requirement.
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@Moozer325
I’m a big Sci-Fi nerd, but l also like some sitcoms from time to time
If you like Sci-Fi, you should watch Stargate SG-1
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@Bullish
Savant was right, this was very town sided. Town had an upperbound 2/3 chance of winning even before considering the roles.
The plan was simple. Identify 2 townies and never vote them. I mentioned that at the beginning. Activity also died, which was predictable, cause I literally am always the most active and drive convos.
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@Casey_Risk
Well, I'm glad I made the right decision in the end at least. GG.
Yep GGs. It was more so Earth throwing at the end. Literally everyone except you and Wylted scumread him lol. Cause frankly his play was scummy
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@Bullish
I fake claimed popular lmao
I know, and I literally said my role and Luna’s role are direct counters, but everyone was on a Pie witch-hunt. I was fine being the lynch since my role wasn’t that important anyways, but I had 2/3 scum pinged by end of DP1
Also I thought u were hidden scum because we tailored you but wylted claimed to have copped you inno. Turned out he just lied.
Ya that’s a classic Wylted play. But he played it right. Owen was scum regardless of my affiliation based on the fact that scum killed a Doublevoter vs a“Town” Rolecop
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@Barney
FYI, I was pretty sure Earth was town, but also that he would not bother to argue against WF given his performance the the previous day (to which I am curious why people voted for me instead of him, but oh well).That said, I did enjoy the unconventional setup.
I thought he was town too until the final match where he just blew it. Complete waste of a role on Casey/Owen match. I voted for you because I townread Earth until then.
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Also, I had 2 scum by the end of DP1.
Owen was confirmed scum cause scum chose him over me (regardless of what you believe my affiliation was). Though at the same time it makes no sense to kill a DP2 Doublevoter over a Rolecop lol. Also, how did Wylted die over Luna. Makes no sense.
I also had Bullish as scum cause mine and Luna’s role were direct counters. Idk how Earth didn’t know he had 3 votes. That doesn’t make any sense. And using his role on Owen/WF was the definition of retarded.
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