ILikePie5

Mikal sus af. No mass claims please. Only helps mafia at this point to work out who is the Nurse/Doctor. Crafting tables are a much broader category than different coloured pressure plates with slightly different effects. Doesnt seem weird that lunatic is a specific table for his specific role, whatever it is, especially when we have no information. Claim or im leading a wagon on you.

Im not trolling. Given my weird character and extremely unorthodox role, i figure this is some wild west mafia where you cant meta your way to victory so im going with a bold strategy.

Hello. I am the item called the ‘pressure plate’ and i have a JOAT style role where only one of the abilities make sense thematically. I have a 3x cop ability, a 1x poisoner ability and a 1x bomb ability.  I will lead you to victory town, so long as you don’t let scum lead you down the garden path.

I don’t want to give up my character this early into the game, so I’ll just say, it is a vital item/item that helps the player in the game.

I am town yes

I don’t get what you mean by why or why not however. Like why do you think my role/character is town?

From opening post

Not sure if this is a hard town read or a scum slip tbh. He assumes "various things" are "items". He has soft claimed an item. This could be mafia knowledge and him making a slip because he has knowledge due to being mafia about the theme, but I think it's more likely he saw his PM and just concluded everything is "items" because he is one

To that extent, I think that is a good way to start soft claims

We are also an item. 

It's been a while.

I have a decent amount of theme knowledge, although I was expecting NPCs, not whatever these characters are.

Also, scum were given fake claims

He's joining the (up to) 180 player MafiaUniverse Anniversary Mash.

Proposition 1: New moderators

Part 1: Should DART bring on new moderators?

A. Yes

B. No

Part 2: If yes, who should those moderators be? You can vote for more than one. If voting for more than one please rank your preferences. Here are the applications we received:

A. AdaptableRatman

B. Sir.Lancelot

C. Mikal

D. Savant

E. Lemming 

F. Swagnarok

All moderators are subject to a 30-day trial period before being given full moderator powers. 

Note: If I missed anyone please DM me. 

Proposition 2: Should the website be rebranded to a different domain name

A. Yes

B. No

If yes wins there will be a separate MEEPs and discussion on what that new name will be. As of now we have only 13 days left until the website domain expires. The last message I received from Mike was on 6//11/2025. We are working on creating a backup community in the event that the website is shut down. Please standby for additional announcements. 

Proposition 3: Updating the COC 

Should the COC prohibit the use of racial slurs?

A. Yes

B. No

Proposition 4: New features

What new features would you like to see on the new website? Multiple choices are permitted. If selecting multiple options please rank the order of what you want to see most strongly.

A. Opinions

B. Polls

C. Groups / Clubs

D. Articles

E. Podcasts

F. Mafia ELO system

G. Add images / videos

H. Forum signatures

To exemplify why there's not a public vote to approve each ban and keep their content around... Let's consider just a few of the new accounts from the last 24 hours:

1. pressedtoimpress
   
2. ephoca
   
3. Udaipurcallgirlsservices
   

“The ability to approve or veto permanent ban propositions. Moderation will be required to submit permanent ban propositions to the President for review unless the user in question is a bot or advertising account, the situation is uniquely urgent or severe, the President is absent and/or unreasonably tardy, or the permanent ban proposition targets the President themselves. Vetos may be overridden by a simple majority vote among the moderation team.”

Precog'ing the response of "if you are in contact with the moderators, how come you didn't see those posts when they were deliberating?"

Respectfully, deliberating Holocaust conspiracy posts is not something I like to do on my birthday. I was out with family and friends golfing and eating sushi

Does the president have that authority? Seems like WyIted wanted Lashwnda unbanned, but that account is still gone.

That's what I thought, too, but I asked Luna and the way he explained it, I was effectively just a JOAT with an Inventor label.

One thing that I saw only banana mentioned: There was a lot of investigation type roles that were claimed, watcher, comedian, innocent child, and cop. I am extremely surprised that town bought that a hypothetical scum team here would block an inventor over a watcher, in any case.

But yeah I get it lol, busses are masterclass on this site, they are very hard to look past lol

If Pie had been lynched DP3, I would have roleblocked Vader. The fact that the NK would have gone through anyway would have been enough for me to figure out who the partner really was. Very unfortunate for me, but I understand why Vader voted for me.

Also fuck I pinged as a scum read in DP1 with savant too. Should’ve stuck to my reads and not have voted Casey. Either way scum did a good job and setting up an either / or scenario so I doubt if Pie turned scum Savant was the lynch target. only way this happened if savant was lynch and I don’t think that would’ve happened. in theory pie voting Casey instead of savant, who lied about the results should’ve been a red flag I didn’t see but oh well.

Well played to both sides I really enjoyed playing this game 

So, I take it you redirected me to Savant? What was the strategy there? 

I knew I would be confirmed by day phase 2, I was really just hoping I wouldn't have been forced to role claim to get said confirmation is all. I was on the brink of claiming day phase one just to get people to take me seriously lol. Btw I totally picked up that you were Elon Musk as soon as we figured out the theme, I knew there was no way you were scum.

Wow.

Okay I have to ask: Is this going to be a recurring thing where I am pushing my scum reads and get called "Over aggressive and therefor scummy" because if it is, I don't think I want to play much more. A big part of the reason I backed off of savant day phase one was because everyone was scum reading me for being aggressive, and didn't stop until I unvoted savant. Magically as soon as I unvoted savant and stopped being as active, every one town reads me... I don't blame pie and savant obviously, they were scum so it makes sense they would push this narrative, but a lot of other people were buying that logic as well, including casey and vader in day phase one. I don't want to have to be submissive all the time to play this game, and sometimes I find myself purposely trying to fade in the background as town because when I don't it doesn't go well for me. Other times it’s actually just inactivity on my part but still. I want to be able to pursue a scum read without being instantly told I am being scummy for it.

Again, the scum team did a nice job. I still feel good about catching Pie based on behavior, even if I was wrong about Savant. 

Casey gave savant a bulletproof vest. Why would either of you consider them scum together that's not really a risk that seems in Casey and savants playbook to tie themselves together like that. To me it would seem to town confirm Casey to a large extent. 

What's everyone's roles? I have only started paying attention to the game this day phase?

No, they're not. Show me one example of a blatant scumslip in a game. The only one I think I've ever seen was GP in Gunplay Mafia, and that was Greyparrot.

Who said it just had to be for WIFOM? You yourself speculated that he may have been killed for being a potential Cop. Why doesn't that apply to you as well? Roles were up in the air after DP1 - the only living player who had fullclaimed was Wylted, and it would have been a waste to kill him.

Besides, that sort of NK analysis can be a convincing argument as I already brought up. When I got killed NP1 in Microbiology Mafia, I thought that was a sure sign that at least one of you and Banana was scum.

He shouldn't be. How do you know you weren't role copped?

You forgot to actually rebut my argument. Do you think I blatantly ignored my partner, or do you think Savant and I are just really dumb? I'll openly admit I'm not the greatest at this game, but I know better than to do that, all while making the same mistake I made the last time I was scum with Savant - tying myself too closely to my partner.

Pie could 100% be on some bullshit timing. I am not a huge fan of his behavior at this point in time and the obviously easy answer is that he wasn't an Inno Child. Even if he claimed his name was the letter G, it is very broad and could work for anything. Seemed a bit jumpy on some of the lynches in the beginning. But I wouldn't say anything he did stood out to me that isn't what he normally does. 

We have how many people confirming pie is scum? I mean what do you want me to do? He is an innocent child that failed to materialize. I am willing to look at other things but the fact you seem to dismiss him as an option is sending up red flags tbh

So did pie try to trick me by claiming he was at L1 earlier or did somebody remove a vote

Who is supposedly scum? 

We are thinking scum team waited until DP2 to vanillaize so who would that be on the scum team that would do that?

Are we at MYLO? I can read some stuff despite half passing things until now. I won't hammer wrong if it's in my hands at the moment

Oh yeah, and this is just wrong as well. I was NOT on Ultra's wagon come the end of the DP. You can check for yourself.

This logic only works if we assume you're telling the truth in the first place. From the perspective of an objective outsider, the team could just as easily be you and Vader. 

I already responded to this point. Why on Earth would I set up an elaborate theory trying to frame you, who no one else believed was scum except maybe Banana when I could have just chilled, let Ultra get lynched, and then tried to frame Vader or Wylted? It would have been a borderline idiotic play for me as scum to draw that much attention to myself when I could have just relaxed and no one would have thought anything of it.

Not true. The way Ultra acts when he's about to be lynched as town is very different from when he's scum. Go look at games like Ace Attorney DP1, Years DP3, or Middle School DP2, then compare and contrast Classic Movies DP2. Town Ultra glumly accepts his fate but wants to know why he's being sussed. Scum Ultra fights against his lynch, really poorly. This game, he was acting like his town self, and there was other stuff going for him, which is why I was quest the result. Besides, I was never against lynching him, I was just exploring a 'what-if'.

I still think it may have been a scum slip. No one else had posted about the questions thing in the OP, I don't think, and I feel like you as town would have mentioned it before if you had noticed it. Like I said, genuine, clear scum slips in this game are vanishingly rare. Most slips are subtle. Besides, you identify a slip that isn't actually a slip every other game, so you're being mighty hypocritical here.

Have to split this up into two parts, will finish my rebuttal in a bit.

The problem with this sort of NK analysis is that it's very prone to WIFOM. Sometimes people are killed for sussing the right players, yes. But sometimes they are killed to make it look like the players they sus are scum. Just look at Heroic Heroes or Microbiology Mafia. In both games, I as town put heavy sus on another player who turned out to also be town during DP1, and ended up being the NP1 kill to put further sus on them. As you can see from Heroic Heroes DP3, it clearly worked on Austin at least. Hell, even in Microbiology, it worked on me!

But while I'm sure you thought it was a good move at the time, especially after you saw the flip, you fucked up when you killed Mikal. He was in my PoE and I still sussed him. I wouldn't have been able to solve this game so easily if he was still alive.

Vader is your scum partner, so this means nothing. Also, you're way overselling this interaction.

Right, so I did something scummy by expressing my doubts about the Earth lynch and explaining why, Mikal called me out for it, then I proceeded to... Do the exact same thing again on the very next DP, except 10 times more blatant? Don't you think my partner would have tried to steer me away from that? Or do you just think I'm dumb? Because I promise you, I am NOT that dumb. And don't just say 'WIFOM', either. There's a difference between making a risky play and a just plain bad one.

What was your justification for innocent child again?