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@Mharman
Have you given fake claims and/or fake roles to scum
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@Mharman
Game will start 9pm est, sign-ups close at 8pm est.
ur gonna be able to redesign in an hour?
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@AustinL0926
I think over all my town games here, I've never once pushed someone for anti-town behavior. It's really not that difficult. I'm not saying it's unreasonable to push people for it, but statistically, it doesn't really bear out.
I think it comes down to effort tbh. Some of us put more effort into the game than others
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@AustinL0926
My guy you were the one who pushed through his lynch over a typo lmao.
After he asked a question that town had zero reason to ask, and after he claimed a scummy DP3 role when in fact he was DP2. He threw lol.
Earth could've played better but a single person never makes a lynch.
Well he needs to play to his win con and stop asking questions that go against his win con. Oh and also read and claim properly
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@AustinL0926
Anti-town behavior comes from town the vast majority of the time (if I had to give a number, probably well over 80%). If you can correctly identify it as such, it's possible to save a lot of bad gamestates.
That’s the problem. You can’t identify it, so just don’t do it
If you don't believe me, try pulling up an example of the last time someone acting blatantly anti-town flipped scum.
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@AustinL0926
I do think scum deserved to be shot for killing a claimed PGO though... smh.... smh...
Me too. I was so excited I couldn’t be killed. My luck is just horrible
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Genuinely tho, if Earth wasn’t an idiot, we would’ve lynched Luna
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@AustinL0926
Unfortunately there was a lot of town-on-town violence here - please remember to always be willing to reevaluate, don't rush, and that just because someone is acting weirdly or anti-town doesn't mean they're scum.
Don’t be anti-town. Use your brain lol
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I knew Lunatic was scum the second DP2 started and I was dead. Him and Wylted are the only ones ballsy enough to kill a claimed PGO.
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Game was lost for town the second Earth hard threw and scum killed me.
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@Earth
@Vader
@Bullish
@SirAnonymous
@Cerulean
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@AustinL0926
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
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@Savant
That's a scum slip. How do you know Earth is scum unless you are his partner? /s
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@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@Vader
@whiteflame
We caught scum, vamanos
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@Savant
He's assuming you are though. And scum would be way more careful with their wording.
No because scum make slips all the time.
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@Savant
It's not a slip and never has been. You keep getting townies lynched for "slips" that aren't slips. Most people, including Earth, are pretty sure you are town, that's likely what Earth meant.
He can’t know with certainty I’m Town. Especially since he back tracked to mean he was saying PGO
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@Savant
Tbh, at this point I'm not feeling too confident on either of these lynches. Earth made maybe one mistake (I'd like him to explain why he asked, though, before I remove my vote), and Luna was maybe too busy to put in much thought. Other than the few players I'm town reading, I think we (including me) have done a poor job at narrowing down scum.
Check out the scumslip
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@Greyparrot
I did paraphrase my justification, I paraphrased the entire PM. Left nothing out.
Okay cool. Check out the scumslip tho
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@Earth
Wasn't a scum slip but okay.
That’s a scum slip no matter how you look at it
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@Greyparrot
Can you paraphrase your justification? I want to see something
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
@WyIted
Yes, Casey would, given I am town. And have you already forgotten that Pie is town?
Thanks for the scum slip
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@Earth
I am Einstein vs Hawkings and I am the DP3 Informed Townie. Come DP3, assuming I still live, I will be given information town doesn't have.
Justification?
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@Lunatic
I don't really think I am hard defending earth here, and I specifically only want to give him a slight pass here because of the role I gave him in my last game kind of makes sense to me why he would ask that question.
I get that argument, but I don’t see curiosity as a justification for someone this experienced.
Would you agree that PGO is kind of an uncommon role? I haven't seen one in a while, and the one time I do remember the role being used, it ended in chaos and a game ending after a single day phase. I nerfed that role specifically because of said game, and earth had the option of picking said role.
It is uncommon, but it’s not broken as long as it’s SOPed, which I did here.
I don't know that he is town or scum, just pointing out that I can see a world where earth specifically could do an anti town thing like that without thinking about it. It kind of sounds like im calling him stupid, but its more like an "airheaded" thing. He could be just trying to sus out information as scum as well, I was mostly pointing out that I would like something a little more tangible added to that to secure my vote. I have no reason to believe earth is town at the moment. And yes I admit I do not have an alternative option at this time.
That’s fair
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Luna’s non-substance is not affiliation indicative. He was inactive for DP1 in the game where Savant and I basically 1v1ed. What’s pinging my radar of Luna is his defense of Earth’s action being anti-town. I feel like Luna does this a lot where he defends someone he knows is a townie. My only concern is that he has no alternative lynch atm.
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Can someone explain the earth scum read to me like i'm five? I am a bit confused.
I claimed Paranoid Gun Owner. If anyone visits me, they automatically die regardless of their affiliation.
Earth asked me if I have any restrictions on my role like it can only kill 1 person or it only kills the second person to visit me. If you’re a townie and believe me, there’s no point to asking that question because you wouldn’t visit me in the first place. If you think I’m scum, then you would want to lynch me.
Scum have an incentive to ask for this information. Let’s say for example, I’m an Odd night PGO meaning that only on odd nights whoever visits me, dies. That gives scum options to kill me on even nights, or they can redirect someone to me on odd nights. The enhanced information only benefits scum. Basically, there’s no town reason to ask for this information.
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@Lunatic
Yeah I seen it. I can see what your point is, the only reason I am giving him a pass for it though is because he literally just had PGO as a role option in my last game, and I had strictly limited the role specifically because of that mestari game I mentioned. I think it's natural for him to be curious about seeing that unusual role claimed without a limitation, considering he just saw it limited in the last game. And while I can see where you going with on it being "anti-town" for him to question it, I think that part of it is going over his head if you know what I am saying. I mean he could be scum I just don't know if that alone is really enough to justify it. I don't have an alternative though, and if there was a bit more to push him on I am sure I could be sold to the lynch, and I'd rather not no lynch, but considering we have more time I am hoping we can find a more promising option.
If I’m SOP claiming, why would I leave it out? It’s not like I’m a noob or Wylted who would leave stuff out. Also for someone as experienced as Earth, I don’t buy the “curiosity” argument.
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@Earth
@Savant
@WyIted
It's honestly nobody's business. If you believe his claim you just avoid visiting him. If you don't than visit and expose him the next day. Asking so the scum team can redirect people to him is bad.
Exactly.
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@Lunatic
Can you link me the question? I am not following
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My rap battle is not on the list.Also unvote. I can buy lunatic's response for now, and admittedly it is a bit of a stretch. But he is contributing a lot more now, so I guess we will have to watch him and see from here.
Which season is your battle from?
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@Lunatic
Earth said he was on the list. Banana is the only one left. What do you think about Earth’s question?
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@Savant
I can think of some, but I'll wait for Earth to respond so I can get a better read on him.
Fair enough
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@Savant
Honestly, sounds reasonable enough.
What town reason is there to ask a claimed PGO if he has any restrictions or not?
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@Earth
A little of a flimsy reason, don't you think? I don't see whats scummy in asking for clarification on a persons role. Unless you think I am mafia and really want a PGO Pie dead for whatever reason.
Why would you as mafia not want me dead? I’m one of the best players. If I had a chink in my armor, only scum have a benefit knowing about it.
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I’m fine lynching Luna or Earth. The former hasn’t done anything notable today. The latter, I don’t like the question about whether my PGO has restrictions. What’s a town reason to ask that question?
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Hello Hello!
Welcome Back! Have you had a chance to follow/read the DP?
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@WyIted
How about I just full claim to you. This is my favorite role.If that's not good enough or other town members don't like that you are the only one who knows my role now than I will claim. No big deal.
Sounds good to me
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