ILikePie5

Quick PSA

Turn out they identified the gunman, and now I’m confused.

He was a registered republican named Thomas Mathew Crooks, but he donated 15$ to a democrat PAC on the day Biden was sworn in.

I’d say it Isn’t a stretch to say this was still politically motivated, but not a fringe leftist as I thought.

You're a retard if you took fight to mean actually get physical and start punching politicians. I have heard Nancy Pelosi say fight for the country as well and nobody assumed she meant to start punching people. 

Are you a retard who thinks when somebody days fight for your country they meen get physical? Or are you just a liar?

One deranged 20 year old does not compare to a sitting president trying to steal an election and an entire movement trying to hand him back power.

It was probably down fringe leftist. Most people on the left are going to come out and say this was horrible, including me.

Because not everyone cares about reality. Anyone who does knows that political opinions is no indication of it.

What they believe is beyond my control. It's all on tape. You either care about reality or you don't.

Majority of it was real, I don’t deny that. She was just calling out a few rare ones that actually were fake, and now everyone thinks she says that all of them are fake.

She called out a few that actually were fakes, and never said or implied anything about a conspiracy. Most of her rhetoric has been about people taking cheap-shots at Biden by talking about personal issues, and not matters of substance. 

Who was even saying this? I never heard anyone say this.

If you cared about cognitive ability you wouldn't be enthusiastically supporting the guy who thinks he's running against Obama and that Nikki Haley was in charge of Capitol security.

I honestly think the cognitive debate is a huge waste of time.

This is getting ridiculous. I’m starting to change my mind about him. There is not way this guy is winning the election.

Biden has been doing gaffes forever. I'm not surprised that he's mixing up names, I'm surprised that the media suddenly cares.

Why not?

What was that hidden benefit btw?

Yeah and somehow I managed to convince myself Whiteflame was a bomb, because it satisfied my gut read on you which was completely wrong…

Idk if Pie was scumreading Savant bc of the tunneling, but it was more of a town tell than a scum tell

Thinking Pie scum slipped was pretty bad of me

I could see mislynching him if he stayed alive. I would like to think I wouldn't have because of my town read of him late into dp1, but who knows

That was definitely a nice recovery from DP1. Also savant calm the fuck down LOL

There's no way Pie would have challenged anyone other than Mharman if he was town.

So Pie is obviously scum at this point. If someone's a vigilante, kill him. The power is probably only 1x though so you know who to lynch tomorrow.

dude pie you should have volunteered to be lynched. I would have self lynched if that was my role and I was town

If you challenge a confirmable player, we are going to assume you are scum. (More than we do already, that is.)

Lol. This will be hilarious whether or not Pie is scum.

If you burn, I burn. 

I love you Romeo

okay I forgot what that is, does it skip the NP?

In Invincible, the hints were about characters, and he specifically mentions the theme as a reason for the hints. None f that indicates he'd hint to scum that cop is an available fake claim.

Even the people voting were hesitant. That means nothing.

Scum Pie also loves his town cred. If pushing too hard on a potential cop looks scummy, scum pie will back off.

If I’m wrong, I gain the knowledge of exactly that. From there, I can follow your thought, because I don’t think anyone you’ve accused would jump on some hard-bus-each-other idea with you.

Your flip. I find your flip in particular to be valuable. In the unlikely event you’re town, your flip would be one of the keys to finding the real mafia… the other being who you thought were scum and consistently pushed to lynch.

NP results aren’t going to be that great heading into DP2. Unless Savant solidifies his confirmation, but he is unlikely to get the chance to do so. Because of that DP2 isn’t going to be the easy wealth of information you say it is, unless we have a lynch result from today.

1. I would rather kick the can down the road on a VTNL for those chances of a prevented NK.

2. The information we have DP2 will be much better with a flip today. If you’re guilty, we can keep looking for scum there. If you’re somehow not, then we will have to do it DP3.

All in all, I like the chances of you being scum, and I think we will head into DP2 confident in our chances if you are lynched.

Tbf, if scum were given hints, that does make the cop claim a bit less safe. But it's still ballsy, and I wouldn't risk killing a cop today.

You didn't consider that a possible cop might be more valuable alive than you? You didn't fight tooth and nail try to steer the lynch somewhere else? Voting WF at the point made little sense.

That's exactly what scum Pie tried to do. Thanks for confessing.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11307-clash-of-clans-mafia-day-phase-1?page=18&post_number=523

Forgot to tag. Btw, I’m not asking for your claim because it isn’t very useful to do so. Scum team has hints about what to claim, finding one to make a suitable justification for, can’t be possibly be that hard for you in a game with so many potential characters and roles. Especially since you know not to come with any justification short of perfect, after having accused Whiteflame based on his earlier.

It means I will strongly consider your reads on D_D and Mharman. Also it puts me on the chopping block tomorrow, which you should be happy about.

Yeah, because we all know you could claim right now and have the possibility of stopping the train. But we're pretty fine killing you if you don't.

Why aren't you voting them if you suspect them? If you are town, your logic is just not making sense.

Mharman was also doing a lot of the things I sussed Pie for, and given his scumreading me earlier and buddying me now, I don't feel great about him either. Pie, if you want to go after him, I will consider it, but I'd want more input from someone confirmable like WF or WyIted before I make a final decision.

Everyone was hesitant to some degree. Even I said we should wait until morning, even unvoting to avoid a hasty hammer. But you can’t use that to argue you are town, when literally everyone, town or mafia, is going to show some. I’m not even going to argue my innocence based on that, I think there are much better reasons to townread me.

That’s not what you woke up to. That’s what I woke up to, and I ended up finding your slip instead. You woke up to my accusations, at which point the scenario has changed.

Just saying you would’ve benefited greatly from a VTNL. Which is important in the context that you normally wouldn’t propose one. Town Pie is not this scared to keep the game moving forward.

Whoever scum kills will be whoever gives us the least information. That’s not reliable.

We are going to be having the same conversations with a new flavor DP2 if we VTNL here. Our odds will not improve. And with how confident I am in my read on you, I like our odds of catching you now.

Idk where you figure that 40% from. And again, even if you are shockingly town and we VTNL tomorrow, we will be entering DP3 with very good information and high chance of catching scum.

Not true at all. If the kill is somehow stopped, we are left with an even number heading into DP2. Your extra “POE opportunity” is just another VTNL.

In your plan, if you are innocent, we will have one lynch and two NKs (might as well be three because the mod kill gives us Jack and shit) to look at. As Disc and I have been saying, that plays right into mafia’s hands.

In my plan, if we get an NK prevention, it means we have one less VTNL