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@Barney
Please full claim
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Kamala Harris to pick a white man as VP
Steve Beshear
Roy Cooper
Pete Buttigieg


That’s it. 
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@WyIted
Onetime I called him and pretended to be a Chris Christie staffer and shame him for voting for Trump instead of Christie
Remember the time I screwed Drafterman over and made you win Survivor?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't like the no lynch idea. Even lynching a townie gives us info.
I’d usually agree but Luna said the game is very swingy meaning the game could be over very fast. I suggest getting a claim from Barney or Casey and then deciding
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@Discipulus_Didicit
These are the people I am fine with lynching today (in no particular order). If I am tagging you then post everyone you are okay with lynching and we will see whose names have the most overlap and pick between those:

-Barney
-Whiteflame
-Savant
Barney
Casey
Whiteflame - I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now
Savant - May confirm himself tomorrow
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@Savant
Because you're afraid of getting lynched based on WyIted's reads. You know we are likely to lynch someone WyIted has not town read, so you want to avoid lynching or lynch one of those other people.
Then you can’t use the argument that “he must get us to lynch someone else WyIted is not town reading, so he's throwing suspicion at all of those people.”

Those two arguments are contradictory
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Savant
@WyIted
1. Most of his defenses have been calling me ridiculous without really elaborating, which I have noticed scum tend to do. He knows I'm getting strong scum vibes from him and that I've sometimes been right before, so there's no reason for him to just dismiss me out of hand if he's really town. Yet that's exactly what he's doing.
Cause they are ridiculous. I asked you a question about if you scumread 420. That doesn’t mean I’m instigating a fight between you. The question was designed to gauge why you’re disrupting a townread that someone as. If you scunread 420, that’s different, but you don’t.

2. After Wyted said he was sure about his town reads and claimed early, Pie began buddying him and trying to sus the other people WyIted hadn't town read in order to keep POE as large as possible.
Idt you understand the relationship we have. We go long back. I made a deal with him. He upheld his end of it, and I frankly townread him for his claim. I upheld my end by pursuing people Wylted wanted, cause I’m pretty good pressuring people.

Whiteflame claimed cop, yet Pie still considers him super scummy based purely on character connection (which has repeatedly not been a good way to identify scum).
It’s actually a great way to identify scum. I made up Covfefe and it made little sense, and I almost died because of it. Luna is also notorious for giving scum hints to town aligned roles normally. In a game without a split, scum fake claims can only be analyzed via justification. It’s harder for them to fake a justification.

Town Pie would be against lynching WF this day phase with an early cop claim, but scum Pie doesn't have a choice if he doesn't want to be targeted by WyIted—he must get us to lynch someone else WyIted is not town reading, so he's throwing suspicion at all of those people.
So why are you sussing me for wanting to No Lynch, which I literally usually never want to do.
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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???

Savant - ??? (Resource) - ???

Disc - ??? (Button) - ???

Mharman - ??? (Building) - ???

Pie - ??? (Mechanism) - ???

Barney - ??? (Building) - ???

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@WyIted
The last part about scum getting some sort of advantage if I recruit them I didn't mention it earlier but figured I should now, because I get a feeling they already know or have some hints of that. 
Okay so just to clarify: you can recruit every night and if you accidentally recruit scum, they get an advantage?
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@WyIted
It’s the clan recruitment mechanism and I recruit people. Come on man. I can run it through chat gpt for a paraphrase when I get on the bus if you want but it's pretty straight forward
No, I get the connection. I just want to know what Lunatic said about specifically
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Confirmed Town: Pie

Likely Town: Disc

Lean Town: Wylted, 420, Mharman

Null: Barney, Casey

Lean Scum: Savant, Whiteflame

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@Barney
Unvote VTL barney
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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???

Savant - ??? (Resource) - ???

Disc - ??? (Button) - ???

Mharman - ??? (Building) - ???

Pie - ??? (Mechanism) - ???

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@Discipulus_Didicit
I was waiting for someone to ask. I’m a Mechanism
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@WyIted
What’s your justification?
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@Barney
@420-1776
Everyone is supposed to pretend to win with town... Because town are a bunch of psychopaths murdering anyone who they feel is different.

However, thank you for posting. Please post a lot more, you can even just post questions about how the game works... Also, if we're going to win, we still need that Up Dog.
What category is your character in?
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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???

Savant - ??? (Resource) - ???

Disc - ??? (Button) - ???

Mharman - ??? (Building) - ???


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Also interesting that you exclude the other stuff I wrote in that post
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@Savant
Another scum tell from Pie. Means we're probably close to getting him and the other scum.
This is just laughable
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@420-1776
Read the guide posted in forum games
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@Mharman
Pie's idea of claiming type of character seems ok at least.
There’s no downside. Each category has multiple items with different uses. It’s impossible for scum to judge
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With Lunatic saying the game is very swingy and could end quickly, and there also not being a theme, I think it may be optimal to No Lynch as of right now. Tomorrow we will have a lot more information. I still want everyone to claim their category and we can move from there

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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???

Savant - ??? (Resource) - ???

Disc - ??? (Button) - ???

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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???

Savant - ??? (Resource) - ???

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@Savant
I think I'm a resource, but I'm not sure.
Resources are like Elixir, Gold, Dark Elixir, Gems, Builder Gold, Builder Elixir
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Exhaustive List of all categories I can think of:

Buildings
Resources
Books
Pets
Heroes
Hero Equipment
Troops 
Spells
Siege Machines



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@Lunatic
Timecheck?
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Wylted - Recruiting System (Mechanism) - Neighborizor

Whiteflame - Guard Post (Building) - Flavored Cop

Casey - ??? (Troop) - ???
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@Barney
@Mharman
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Savant
@420-1776
Please state what category your character is in such as Troop, Building, Resource, Boosts, Books, etc
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I seem to remember Whiteflame saying he wasn't very familiar with the game and I would expect a fake claim from someone unfamiliar with the game to be something basic like a unit or building (I am not a unit or building and neither is Wylted so those aren't the only things Lunatic thought of).
I townread you for this. I think it may be of use for everyone to state what type of thing they are—like a Building, Troop, Resource, Boost, etc to lock scum into categories for their fake claims.
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@WyIted
What do you want to do next 
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@Savant
Well now I've got a pretty good reason in that he's sussing the claimed cop.
Him claiming cop means nothing. I was in a game with Lunatic where cop was basically the fake claim.

That should make him everyone's top scum read. Pie knows he has to sus all of WyIted's other non-town-reads because one of them is probably getting lynched today.
??

Earlier he tried to get me to accuse 420, and he instantly used my answer to scum read me.
No. I asked you if you were scumreading 420. You said you were null on him. So why are you telling Wylted what to believe and not to believe? That’s why I suspected you. I still do. If you affiliation confirm yourself, then you will be confirmed.

I think setting something up like that would likely come from scum who wants a reason to get another player lynched.
That makes zero sense. It’s also odd that you’re not going after DD who is basically doing the same thing. This is what we call tunnel.
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@whiteflame
Admittedly haven't used ChatGPT much, so I had to try multiple inputs before it spit out something that looked different enough that it could be called paraphrasing:

"This structure can defend buildings that other defensive structures cannot reach. With a few troops stationed there, it helps to detect enemies from a greater distance outside your base."
Ig I can see it. It’s still a stretch to me, but the plausibility is there
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@whiteflame
The way it's framed in my PM is that they can protect buildings out of range of other defensive buildings. I assumed that meant they had extended range, hence my paraphrasing.
Fair enough

The idea is that they're identified before arriving at the base. I assumed that meant that the player could see them and know what kind of attack was coming.
Well that’s not exactly true.

The post does mention the limited number of units as a basis for the limited use case. If they're a part of the range aspect, it's not mentioned.
Let’s try this. Ask ChatGPT to rephrase/paraphrase.
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I asked Lunatic if all the information he provides is factual. His response was that he tries to be accurate as possible but there is a chance he could’ve phrased things oddly because there is a lot of new content and he hasn’t played in while. But I feel like there’s far to many oddities in that justification and the connection to an investigative role 
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@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
@WyIted
Guard Posts are defensive, they have large ranges, and are good for identifying enemy troops before they hit the base.
So here’s the problem with this claim. Guard Posts don’t have a range themselves. You can click on other defenses and see a circle for their range. That doesn’t work for the guard posts. The troops in the guard post aren’t also clickable.

The second part is also shady. Guard posts themselves don’t identify enemy troops. The troops part of the guard post attack enemy troops. There’s nothing to do with identifying them, much less before the enemy troops attack the base.

You can deploy your troops far from the guard post on the opposite side of the base and the troops part of the post won’t come attack unless they are close to the troops themselves. Guard post also doesn’t make sense from an investigative standpoint. It’s a big stretch for an investigative role.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
@WyIted
I have reason to believe WF is fake claiming. Waiting on Luna to answer a question 
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@whiteflame
Guard Posts are defensive, they have large ranges, and are good for identifying enemy troops before they hit the base.
Hmm. I don’t like this at all. I need to ask Luna something first 
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@WyIted
I think we have enough information for the time being. 

unvote

we just have to decide lynch or no lynch and if we choose lynch than negotiate a target
I would like WF’s justification first. If I find it satisfactory, I think we can lynch Barney or no lynch. He hasn’t posted since last night and it’s been all fluff. Keep in mind Lunatic said this game is very swingy
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@whiteflame
I'm the Guard Post, and my role is the Cop. The role has a limited use case to it, though I think providing that information is net negative to town, so unless someone has a good reason for me to provide it, I'm going to leave my claim here.
What’s your justification?
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@Mharman
We are waiting on Whiteflame
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@Mharman
I don’t understand why you want a claim from him. It’s not gonna help us find scum.
Why not? If his character doesn’t work with his role or he gets CCed, it’s good for us.
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@Savant
Ok, that explains jumping on the train. You are still my top scum read, but I won't hold that particular decision against you.
Go for it. You’re wrong and your case is garbage anyways
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@Savant
@WyIted
Look how quickly Pie jumped on the train.
I made a promise to Wylted. I’m holding onto my end of the bargain. Very disingenuous on your part

Also, WF's behavior wouldn't give him away as scum even if he was scum. When WF says he's busy because he has an event, he means it. He could be scum or town, but something as simple as inactivity/buddying wouldn't give him away.
Why does any of this matter? Right now I’m asking for a claim.
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@whiteflame
Forgot to ping you. Please claim
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@WyIted
Okay so it's whiteflame. Gotcha

unvote VTL whiteflame. 

felt a bit of buddying from whiteflame earlier as well so it's why he has been on my radar a bit. He usually ignores my antics and the back and forth made me suspicious, you know plus POE and all of that
Unvote

VTL whiteflame


PromisesMadePromisesKept

#Trump2024
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@Savant
Just think of me as super motivated to catch scum, because if they have a roleblocker left tonight, I die tomorrow. So when I say I scum read Pie like my life depends on it, you know I mean it.
So you may not be affiliation confirmable? I’ll also just say that your scum read is dead wrong
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Everyone bookmark post 175. I think the best play there is to leave Savant off of the chopping block for now but if he does not prove his affiliation in DP 2 then assume he is 100% scum.
I agree with this
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@Savant
I will tonight.

VTL Pie, he's the only one I have a scum read on atm.
Just remember. If we burn. You burn with us.
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