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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yes, unless the military is threatening to kill us all if the aliens go public.There is no way for governments to block communication by physical means.
Aliens have always been getting themselves noticed, that's why there are many stories of abduction. And the stories of demons in the past are probably stories of aliens.
And I think this is part of the aliens' plan to get the human beings conscious about their existence. Thanks to these abduction stories, there have been so many movies, series and cartoons about it. The military should have done their part to speed up the arrival of these aliens and get known by all of us, but they didnt'. Either way, I think people are enough ready to know the truth, the time is close.
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@DavidAZZ
The thought that aliens exist is always a fun topic, but there is just no proof. UFO's exist, but it not proven that they are flown by aliens.
This is a video that I once showed in this forum, maybe you didn't have the opportunity to watch it. I consider it as the best and clearest evidence of a real alien craft.
And yeah, nobody knows if these ships are flown by aliens, but there are testimonies of it, specially from the military. There are many officials that know a lot of crazy stuff about it but can't say anything because they are not allowed.
But don't worry, most of us in this forum will see the arrival at the earth of many alien ships of different types and from many alien civilizations, consider yourself lucky to witness such an incredible event.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
2.) They're already here, "alien zoo" and sure there are a hundred variants but they all answer the question of "where are they" with "they don't want you to know". Of course by "they" I mean the artificial or rebuilt natural intelligence of the consensus that dominated this system.
Are you sure it's the aliens that don't want us to know or it's the military and political power that don't want so?
Most of the alien stories come from the military, specially the air force. It's no surprise that there is more and more pressure in the us congress to reveal what the military knows about it.
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I wasn't that wrong when I called you a cultist.
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@njk25
Well, trump is a business man turned politician...How can you call an ex-president and a presidential candidate "not a politician".
What I mean is that Trump is not the traditional politician we're used to see, like for example Joe Biden who devoted his entire life to warm a seat in the Congress and say with a big smile in the face what people want to hear.
Trump once said when he was younger that he wouldn't want to run for president because he had to lose a lot of things, including his reputation. So, what he's doing right now should be considered as a patriot action. Don’t you think so?
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@njk25
Nah, no politician does that.
Exactly.
Using your logic, this quote fits better on Trump because he is not a politician but a business man. He has everything to lose as a politician.
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@ebuc
1} have their pudding grabbed by strange men, and/or,2} grab strange pudding by the crotch and/or,
Why do you insist on that? Haven't you ever wanted to grab a juicy pussy out there? 😁
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@Double_R
In order to make that case you'd have to explain why it is worse to have a candidate who is old than a candidate who fundamentally opposes the most basic principals the country he is leading was founded upon. You have offered nothing even close to that.
I think it's too late to do that because Joe has stepped aside. I think he finally proved himself being unfitted for the presidency.
Then you didn't actually read them. My posts offered a point by point breakdown of the differences between this Trump administration and 2017, all supported with facts and examples. If all you saw is outrage you are either lying and didn't read them at all, or when you call me a cultist that is pure projection. It couldn't have been better laid out in terms of just sticking to the facts and leaving emotion out of it.
I called you a cultist at the very moment you tried to defend the undefendable which is the Bidenomics. Any decent economist would agree that Biden administration has been awful for the american economy. Maybe you enjoy a wealthy position in american society so you don't have to complain, but most americans have been struggling to get by over the last 4 years.
So yet again, I present facts and examples and you don't even attempt to respond to a single thing I said. We both know why, because you don't have anything meaningful to say, just insults.
So, calling you a cultist is an insult? Haha, we're very sensitive today.
I call you a cultist because this is what you are since you were defending the Bidenomics. Check any inflation chart over the last 2 periods and you'll see Trump's inflation is flat, Biden's is a big mountain. I don't have to expand on it because it's a waste of time, so you can check it by yourserf in any economic newspaper. All of them says it clear, Biden's economy management has been poor and the debt Biden leaves is a ticking bomb.
I find that very telling, which only strengthens my convictions that I have it right. Maybe someone will come along and actually want to have an intelligent conversation about it. Till then...
Oh, what a modest chad!!
Look, if you think our conversation doesn't fullfill your expectations, that's fine. Maybe you can find another democrat cultist in this forum so you can be happy talking about how great the Biden's administration was.
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@TheUnderdog
By the way, this guy is uruguayan but lives in the US and I think he's american too.
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@TheUnderdog
That's not my position; I said it's weird to strongly support or oppose a foreign politician.
It's not weird at all. Maybe you think the US is the only polarized country. The entire world is polarized, so people take sides in this matter very easily, specially when it comes to an important country like the US, obviously because the US can influence the rest of the world very deeply.
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@zedvictor4
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@TheUnderdog
The video isn't Trump; it's a strong Trump supporter (who doesn't even live in the US, so it would be like if I made a very strong pro or anti Macron argument). it's weird to broadcast opinions about leaders of foreign ccoutnries.
It's not a supporter, he's just having fun doing silly things.
And I think you're wrong when you say a person can't support a foreign politician. I actually support many politicians around the world that fight against any policy that goes against the libertarian principles. Trump does the same at supporting Bolsonaro in Brasil or Milei in Argentina.
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I don't think Harris will use this argument to attack Trump because he's very lucid. He even dodged a bullet.
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@Double_R
Correct, that's exactly the problem. America isn't a business, it's the most powerful nation on earth and is so because of the basic principals upon which it was founded. Principals that Trump in his "different way" of thinking not only disregards but berates anyone who follows them.
You're exaggerating, bald man. I can concede that the Jan6 was the consequence of Trump's stupidity. I already said it, Trump is a mediocre candidate. What I'm arguing here is that Trump is better option than the decrepit old Biden, and he sure is without any doubt. Maybe Democrats should have proposed another candidate and we would be discussing why Trump is the worst pick.
If changing other people's minds is the point of why you engage here then every post you write is probably a waste of time. But if a productive rational dialog is your goal, the way to accomplish that is to point out the flaws expressed within someone else's views, as opposed to, say, just labeling someone else a cultist while ignoring the very detailed arguments they made explaining their position.
Yes, I engage in debates for that, to change people's mind. Don't you?
By the way, I considered very carefully all your points and all what I see is resentment and hatred against Trump. There might be some common ground but in general I only see unjustified outrage in your words. Ok, maybe the Jan6 events deserve some outrage, but come on, everyone knows Biden is not the best choice for Democrats. Even you comrades are inviting Biden to step down the race, but you're here defending him.
I'd really like to know if you're going to do the same ridiculous defend for Harris who is worse than Biden.
Almost every single economic indicator which we have used to measure economic strength for the past century says the economy is doing good, and experts have been predicting an economic crisis "around the corner" for all of the past 15 years. These are talking points taken straight out of the Trump campaign and amplified by right wing media. It's pure nonsense.Again, if Trump were sworn in today he would immediately brag about how good his economic numbers are. And this isn't even hypothetical. In 2016 Trump claimed all of the jobs numbers reports were fake, then after being sworn in the very next jobs report came out and he bragged about it despite not even implementing any meaningful changes in policy yet. When confronted directly about this his press secretary delivered a pre written response from Trump to the media: "the jobs numbers were fake before but they're very real now".No halfway intelligent person would take this man seriously.
Well, this is the very reason I gave up on you. You're a cultist. Haha.
Biden is leaving a time bomb and you'll remember my words when that bomb explodes.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Um, no. Are you going to cry now?
No need to cry. I just wanted to know how a person like you that doesn’t show any sign of intelligence can be in the top 2% as you claim.
Let me guess again, you inherited all your money from your wealthy parents, didn't you? 🤔
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I’m in the top 2% of incomes.
You're obviously lying. It's impossible that a brain-dead moron like you are in the top, unless you have other skill that doesn't relate to cognitive skills. Maybe you were an athlete or a pimp. Lol.
The head of the Secret Service who let Trump get shot still has a job.
This is because she doesn't want to quit even though she should.
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@Double_R
I really don't understand what you're asking, and again, this was all addressed in detail in the link I provided.
I'm saying that it is possible that Trump ran the country in his way, as if it were a business, which can explain all the misunderstaings with the officials that worked for him.
Trump is a business man and he thinks in a different way to a lifetime politician like Biden.
Either way, you're not going to change your mind about Trump because you hate him, so I feel I'm wasting my time with you.
Just remember, a seer said that Trump is a true patriot, he loves the US to death. You might think he's a son of a bitch, but as I see it, he's very frustrated by how the US is going into a steady decline. And don't tell me it's not because the economy indices don't lie, the US is getting into a profound economic crisis as many experts are predicting, not just the seers.
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@zedvictor4
Crap shot, when you consider the bulky object 10cm to the left.
Trump turned his head just before the shot, thats why he's still alive.
I heard the shooter practiced a lot and that he had little time to accomodate himself and shoot because people and the police realized inmediately what he was trying to do.
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Because the extreme left has always been the most violent and fanatic, and hence they carry more deads in history. That's a historical fact.
There should be something about the left rethoric that make people so savage.
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@Double_R
I addressed this directly in the posts I linked you to. Did you read them? Do you have any thoughts on them?
I heard Donald Trump was unaware of how the government system works when he assumed the presidency, so is there any chance that he did all what you said he did because of his ignorance about how the government works? Based on his background as a business man and not a lifetime politician like Biden, it seems to me he didn't know exactly what he was doing. Let's not consider the Jan6 events which is very polemical.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That’s nonsense. Normal people hate him because he’s a criminal and a subversiveHe cheats on his taxes.He cheats his customers, his contractors, his bankers and his wives.He sexually assaults and rapes womenHe tried to shake down the President of Ukraine for help attacking his political opponentHe mishandled classified documents and lied to the FBIHe is undermining all off our important institutions of civilizationHe told a BIG LIE, incited a riot and tried to steal the last election.
Sue him!!!
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@Double_R
Voting for the most despicable candidate in history is a really strange way to display one's intelligence.
Lol. I had to take the services from despicable people many times. I did it because they are good at work. This is an intelligent decision, not mixing emotions with business. You should do likewise.
I hate Trump because he is an existential threat to everything this country once stood for that made us the envy of the world.I laid out some of the case here (this post and the follow up a few posts later). You are more than welcome to read it.
I have to say I agree with Daivd. You're hyping the impact of Trump's government on democracy. Trump has already been president and everything was ok back then. I don't know what your concern is.
I'm starting to think you're a Democrat cultist.
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@HistoryBuff
lol he's a billionaire. He has never actually worked a day in his life. His father handed him a business empire and other people mostly ran it for him. He is part of the ruling elite. Most of his policies from his 1st term were fear mongering bullshit, or standard cookie cutter republican terrible policy. Other than the fear and hate he spreads, he is the status quo.
This is not the information I have about him. You either are lying or don't know what you're talking about.
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@Double_R
I never said anything about impulsiveness, you made that up entirely, something I've grown exhaustingly used to from the right wingers on this site. One has to wonder if their arguments are so wrong why everyone needs to make up imaginary arguments to refute.
Yes, you never said it but it's implied in your argument. People get angry and fearful because of how impulsive Trump is when delivering his speech. And I don't think this is part of any strategy, Trump is being natural, he's truthfully expressing his frustration at the fuck-ups of Democrats.
Against the status quo is not a meaningful argument in any sense. All you're saying is that Trump is different from the others, and you're absolutely right. Unlike everyone else, Trump gets away with saying outrageous, vile, ignorant, bigoted, and insanely false things. That's why he stands out. It's entirely emotional and it's entirely negative.If we (the political left in this country and the political right) were having a real debate the right wouldn't need to lie so brazenly over and over again at their own convention. How many times are they going to claim crime is out of control when it has fallen below what it was at the end of the Trump administration? How many times are we going to here about how Biden made us energy dependant while the US produces more oil than at any time in the nation's history?They lie because they have no plan and no vision. So when you have no coherent policy platform to run on all you have is demonization of the other. Hence the strategy of fear and anger.
You're very careful in not mentioning how Democrats are destroying the whole system with their woke policies which is the main criticism Trump is doing against the current administration. For example, do you have any comment about the illegal inmigration? what about the woke agenda for schools and universities that Democrats are imposing? What about the unnecessary spending on Ukraine war? Not to mention the disaster in the economy that Biden is leaving.
As to the plan and vision of Trump, I heard he already have a plan to expell all the woke officials from the government. That's a good start.
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@Double_R
What I find interesting is if he really has changed how the base will respond. Trump's entire political strategy is based on making people angry and fearful. If he suddenly tries to run as the neighbor loving optimist how is that going to play out?
Do you really think the base supports Trump because of his impulsiveness? No, bald man. The base supports him because he's against the status quo.
People want a radical change and Trump is promising that. So people will vote for him as long as he keep his promises.
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@Double_R
If it did then you would have examples of prominent left wing figures spreading this nonsense. Feel free to provide some.
There are many examples of people ranting on Trump, saying that he's a threat for democracy and the US. I'm not referring to you, of course, but you have lots of TV figures speaking of Trump in this way and even worse things which is enough to lead the public opinion against Trump and enough to make a bunch of wackos gather to plan on killing him. And don't expect people to show their dead drives against Trump publicly as one user did in this forum. People usually do it in social media because they feel protected under the anonymity, but they're cowards to show it in public.
You’re entirely making this up, there is no evidence to support that.
Yeah, I'm sorry, it wasn't an investigation. I took it from a seer who said that this wacko was part of a political sect and that there is going to be more assassination attempts.
History is irrelevant to the objective facts that are on the record when it comes to what filth has been coming from each of the sides. It is the political right that nominated a man who among so many other things'; told his supporters to beat up protesters, regularly calls the opposition pedophiles and marxist communist thugs, posted a video of his opponent being hog tied to the back of a pick up truck, made fun of an assassination attempt on the former speaker of the house that resulted in the brutal hospitalization of her husband, and incited an attack on the US Capitol that he watched live on TV instead of stopping it… to be the next president.
I talked about it too. I said Trump is probably the most despicable candidate in history, he has more defects than virtues, but if you're enough intelligent you have to vote for him at least holding your nose.
I would tell you to vote for Kennedy who is a respected and honorable man, but it would be a wasted vote. Right now, Trump is the only choice for the US to solve the big issues.
As a final remark, I think you hate Trump for his bad manners but you're unable to realize that the elite and the deep state hate him because he's against the status quo that is destroying the US.
Think, bald man. Think!!!
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@Best.Korea
Yeah, he is a born again billionare pervert pussy grabber saved by God who for some reason chose to save Trump instead of all the children dying from cancer.
I didn't mention any God.
If you want to rant on that "God" you think is out there pulling the strings of this world, then go to the religion section.
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I want to make it clear that this is not any sort of political propaganda.
I've been watching the RNC and I've seen Trump completely changed, he's not the same.
If you compare it to other appearences before the shooting, you'll see Trump's facial expression is totally different. Trump himself said that the shooting touched him very deeply and so it seems because I don't see the same arrogant, vain, fucking selfish person he used to be. When you see him now you can tell he's a good man.
It wouldn't be the first time that this happens to a person because I heard many times that when someone experiences a deadly situation he ends up changing his personality, usually for good.
Do you agree or is this just an impression?
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@Double_R
You're right, a bunch of whackos on the internet do not compare to what a president of the United States tells his followers as he is inciting them to revolt against what's happening in real time at the US Capitol.There's a reason we call politicians "leaders". They are the people who actually represent the things we as a society value. Morons on Twitter do not.
I think we already talked about it and my position hasn't changed. Trump very likely didn't realize he was inciting violence because he called for a peacefull walkout: "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard", said Trump in one of his twits. And this is the main reason why he wasnt found guilty so far.
So, it's not that I'm defending Trump because he's my guy or because I'm from the right wing, I'm in fact a libertarian. I said it in this forum, Trump is a mediocre candidate. I think Mr. Kennedy is a better prospect but as the way things are going, I think Trump is the best of a bad bunch not only for the US but also for the world.
This is one of those things that really demonstrates the intellectual depravity of the political right - the false equivalences when comparing the two sides. Any moron on the internet can say anything they want, and we live in a country of over 330 million people so there will be no shortage of them. Twitter is not "the left". Twitter is where morons go to smear their feces.What's telling about the left vs right debates is what each side puts forth as their best representation of the other side. When right wingers talk about the absurdity of the left they point to anonymous idiots on social media or they'll point to some school administrator somewhere in Minnesota. When right wingers talk about the ridiculous left wing policies that fuel their ire it's almost entirely a rant filled with positions no prominent left wing figure has ever advocated for.Meanwhile when the left criticizes the right, more than half of the things we're talking about is coming straight from your nominee for president and unequivocal leader of your movement. And the positions we criticize that he hasn't endorsed can be found all over Congress and all over former members of his own administration.
I think you're overestimating the danger of allowing this kind of speech from the left in social media. It doesn't matter who this speech comes from, what matters is the political identity of this violent speech. Or are you going to deny that this violent comments in social media comes from the left? Where does this left mindset come from? Doesn't it come from left politicians and left activists that support these politicians?
This wacko that attempted to kill Trump didn't do it alone. According to some investigations, he's very likely to be part of a political sect. Yes, the "I hate Trump to death" online sect, which I hope nobody in this forum is part of.
Maybe you didn't notice that you live in a country where most people are armed which make it more dangerous. Right now, Trump has become the political "John Wick", every lefty wants him dead. So, again, you can't dismiss so happily what the left crowd say in the social media.
And if you want to debate which political party is the most violent, I think you're going to lose by far because the history of humanity teaches us that the left has been the most violent... and still.
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@Double_R
But now, all of a sudden, because it's your guy that got attacked, any mere suggestion of anything that might make a person angry enough to carry out such an act is entirely the fault of the people who called something bad... bad.
You can't accuse Trump of saying things like the lefties do in the social media nowadays. Didn't you see what your comrades tell about Trump? They are explicitly calling for getting rid of the threat and unsayable things I won't reproduce. They even mock Trump after the assassination attemp saying that he deserves it which is unacceptable. Here in this forum the user SideWalker admitted to have dead drives against Trump.
So, I'm not impressed at all that a wacko tried to kill Trump if the social media is full of lefties stirring up the crowd with real violent comments. You can't compare it with Trump's comments in Jan 6.
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@DavidAZZ
You are from or live in Spain, correct? You mentioned the "narrative" of Trump being persecuted from our Justice system and such. What is being said about Trump in Spain?
I'm uruguayan but I keep abreast of the Spanish news and I can tell you that Spanish media is unrealiable because most of them are lefties, specially this shitty newspaper called "El Pais". So don't expect them to speak good things about Trump, it's like CNN that manipulates the news. Mind you, they reported the assasination attempt as "alleged" eventhough they showed the video of Trump bleeding along with the shooting sound, haha.
I'm only suscribed to digital channels. What do the spanish channels say about Trump? Well, they say basically that Trump is a threat for the European elite. I don't know if you're aware that there are some European countries that really expect Trump to bring peace for Europe if elected. Though, they don't say Trump is persecuted by the american justice, this is just my impression based on how the story goes.
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@DavidAZZ
Are you saying that Trump staged the shooting in some sort of round about way or that the shooting was perfect timing for him to say that the left was trying to destroy him and now is icing on the cake to his story?
The latter.
As many people have been saying, Trump is a very fortunate man, very fucking lucky. He not only survived to a shooting that pointed directly to his head, but he also obtained the icing on the cake to his narrative as you said.
I just want to add that this assassination attempt was predicted by many seers which made me open a thread about it some months ago. So I think Trump was aware about it, he said many times that his life was in danger.
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@Double_R
Funny how these studies were conducted, proofed, and released all in two days before people have even decided how they feel about the events which these studies supposedly measured.
It's not just studies. There are several pundits that arrived at the same conclusion, that Trump has more chances than before the shooting based on what happened to Ronald Reagan.
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@Double_R
No, there is no depravity at all because the democrats could have done likewise or even worse things.
Besides, in politics what really counts is people's impressions, not real facts. So, as far as I am concerned, people's impression is that this assassination attempt was political, meaning that the left tried to kill Trump as he's a threat for democracy, which coincidentaly is part of the narrative that the left has been spreading everywhere.
Or you just forgot what you were saying in this forum? I recall you spreading the same narrative, that Trump is a threat for democracy, and even other users had the audacity to say that wanted to kill Trump so badly.
So, which narrative is really depraved, the republicans saying that the left want to take Trump out of the race or the left saying that Trump is a threat, a fascist, an authoritarian that deserve to be killed for the sake of the US?
Come on, bald man. Think!!
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Who are you, Ricky Ricardo?
Ricky Ricardo? How old are you? 90? Lol.
Ya genius, is this your idea of a “study” ? The betting markets from a source in Singapore?
Every study related to stock market is serious, dear OLDY.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I've just given you the study you asked for. Any comments about it?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Really? What kind of “studies” are done in 48 hours? The kind you pull out of your ass perhaps
Tomá, pedazo de lamebotas.
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@Tidycraft
They wouldnt be trying to kill him if he couldnt win the election.
I know.
Whether it was the left or not, the shooting helps to complete the story or narrative that Trump was creating, and this narrative is about the left trying to take Trump out of the race. The shooting was the last piece he needed to pull it off.
It was perfect, really well done.
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@HistoryBuff
the polling before the shooting was biden slightly in the lead.
I didn't mention any polls. I said there are studies that determined Trump has 70% of chances to win.
So, if you have some money, put it all on Trump in any betting house, they pay good if you bet on him.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Do you think people will do better under Trump?
People actually were better under Trump and before the pandemic hit. The numbers don't lie.
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@HistoryBuff
There are probably some undecided people who would change their mind over this, but I'd guess there's not many.
You seem to ignore how this game is played. Just see how the story goes on:
Act 1. The left, with the help of the media, tries to take Trump down in the social media. They couldn't.
Act 2. The left tries to put Trump in jail or at least make him bankrupt. They couldn't
Act 3. The left tries to kill Trump. They couldn't.
Act 4. I think everyone here would be able to fill this act. Trump has 70% of probabilities to be the next president according to some studies. Fom 59% before the shooting to 70%. That is fucking crazy!! So, the logical conclusion is that Trump is already the president of the United States of North America.
I know you don’t give a shit because you belong to the hard left wing, but at least everyone here can get what it's really going on.
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@TheUnderdog
But Trump's assassination attempt I believe won't help him much in the polls. It might even cause some brain damage (he was bleeding a lot near his head and he's 78).
There is a study that gives Donald Trump a probability of 70% to win the elections, 11 points more than before the shooting.
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I heard Ronald Reagan went through the same circusntances, he suffered an assassination attempt, after that he went up in the polls and eventually won the elections by a considerable margin.
Trump was going to win anyway but after the shooting there is no doubt about it.
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@Tidycraft
So you think it was Sidewalker? He said many times that he wanted to kill Trump. 🤣
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I'm impressed by the fact that nobody is talking about the deep state which is obviously behind Trump's assasination attempt.
Trump will win and nobody will impede it.
Trump will win and nobody will impede it.
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Trudeau is literally fucking up Canada with pure progresivism and wokeness, and you come to this forum to see the speck in you neighbor's eye?
Haha.
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@Best.Korea
Why did they undress him then?
How do you know Jesus, aka the Christ, was undressed?
We didn't even know whether he died crucified.
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@Best.Korea
Some anger could very well be because of circumcision, small bent dick, or all the other massive losses at genetic and social lottery, or because of autism. I have seen plenty of autistic retards getting angry for no reason whatsoever.
What's the matter with circumcision? You lose a bit of sensibility but that's all.
Small bent dick? You asians are all the same size so you're not alone in this. I guess asian women are used to it. Lol.
Autism? You don't seem to have autism. I bet it's just a made up diagnosis.
And you are online all day, then you're not poor at all. I bet you're sitting in front of your screen scratching your balls and trolling everyone. I wish I had time to do that. Lol.
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@Best.Korea
What happened now? Your neighbor didn't let you get close to his little daughter?
I said it before, you need to find a girl that looks like a minor, with no tits and no butt. I saw a lot of asian women that fit these characteristics.
Another choice is to buy a silicone doll that resembles a child so you can let the jizz out as Victor said. Lol.
I said it before, you need to find a girl that looks like a minor, with no tits and no butt. I saw a lot of asian women that fit these characteristics.
Another choice is to buy a silicone doll that resembles a child so you can let the jizz out as Victor said. Lol.
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