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Are there genuine moral disargeement?
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@Dr.Franklin
We are really comparing it to a time where you buy tickets to heaven with money, where we burn witches at stakes. Where we disallow medical anatomical exploration. But go ahead and say that the current application of technology is worse.
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@Dr.Franklin
the proof is that literally everything has gotten worse in the West ever since we deviated from absolute Catholic monarchy
Why worse? I think it is better. What got worse, how much worse? Why everything?

I will give a counterexample: Technology. What are you trying to prove?

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Career or love-relationship
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@Vici
OBVIOUSLY, it's is career. If you are rich, then the women will flock you. no one wants a poor bum
I really want to think you are being ironic here. Your choice can be justified but this is basically as far from a precise justification as I have seen ever on this site.

If the women flock to you because you are rich, then the ends is that you want to get women, not money. You are not rich enough in that case if you think you are choosing career. In fact, if you are rich enough that all you care about is exploiting not just the men but the women and the children as well and crave the feeling of being a class enemy at the same time boasting the fact an uprising can't stop you from being richer, that is what "choosing career" is if you are trying to be rich. Some people work to be rich and attractive but once they get stable influx of female friends they just stay there at a few millions. You can go beyond. Billions. Dozens of billions. To the point where no one wants to go anywhere closer to you other than in your obligatory speeches, not even the women and the children.

You are choosing relationship, not career.

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@Dr.Franklin
OK. I will consider that point conceded. Come back when you have proof.
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DART 2022 June Myers-Briggs and Jung personality types.
General trials in the past weeks have yielded consistently INTP for me. Except for the time when I kritiked the survey by putting every statement fallacious "strongly disagree", which I got ENTP for some reason.

Extraverts are energised by spending time with people and uncomfortable with extended periods of solitude, introverts are the opposite, not all are clear-cut split that's all.
I prefer to spend time with people online like you, does that mean I am an extrovert? I find INTP much more relatable in terms of personal entries all across the internet due to me basically giving up arguing when I see someone's logic too fallacious to even stand on itself with two legs, which I have observed on the net is common for INTP.

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this game < mafia
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@PREZ-HILTON
The user above me knows way too little to say that about China and is not playing the game.
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Liberals like BLM and ANTIFA are the domestic terrorists
"the"

No. Domestic terrorists are not liberal. Liberals are more accepting of the status quo than what we call domestic terrorists. If there are domestic terrorists in either movements, that means those people have strayed away from their original cause.
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If the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph, why don't we fly off?
If a flat yet circular(cylindrical?) earth rotates along the circular axis while performing circular motion according to the sun(like if you strap a merry-go-round to a rollercoaster loop), why wouldn't that work?

I am sure there are someone with great knowledge in Physics. Right now, I want to know why this wouldn't work. If this does work for a flat earth, that means this is not valid disproof. I am not a flat earther, I just am a skeptic.
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What do you find unattractive about todays beauty standards?
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@Vici
Depends on how fat it is. If it is a woman with a fat ass(while keeping it fairly smooth) I think it is more acceptable in society.
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If the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph, why don't we fly off?
Inertia, or just relative motion. You would only fly off if the earth just stops spinning. If something going 1000MPH in a single direction and only in consant speed and direction, then you would not fly off assuming the acceleration is gradual enough for you to get used to. One example is airplanes. You don't get yeeted to the back of the plane midair.
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Ukrainian cultists also support corporatacracy led by a fascist Zelensky.
Ah yes, the classic. The lesser of the two evils.
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Platform development
Make so that if a 2-hour time is chosen, make sure that the hours in which the debate can be accepted is a field to be filled out(but not must: If not filled, the system automatically assumes 0-24). Starting from---ending at, with the time zone being a select option.

I would be very sad if I created a 2-hour debate, had someone accepted it in my sleep, then lost because I forfeited by sleeping. This would alone make 2-hour formats undesirable normally because you can't control where the other side is and you may FF.

If this isn't a good idea, tell me why.
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Well Debate.org is dead.
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@Conservallectual
There aren’t a lot of you guys, well.
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There needs to be an app for mobile users
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@Public-Choice
Try a desktop.
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List of men that should get sterilized
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@PREZ-HILTON
You are committing Tu quoque. My criticism doesn’t get automatically nullified just because I am Chinese when you are LITERALLY speaking out blatant racism.
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List of men that should get sterilized
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@PREZ-HILTON
1. Non whites
2. Jews
3. Anyone with an IQ that does not reach 130.
Now we have a legitimate reason to report you for a ban.

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Why do women tend to have longer hair than men on average?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Justifying ignorance…huh?
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How should we define "teacher", now and future?
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@zedvictor4
Hypothetically, a programmer just jammed rogue code and made it run. The code, nowhere sentient, spewed out a web page that is in fact very educational. Who is the teacher here? The program, the site, or the programmer?
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Why do women tend to have longer hair than men on average?
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@zedvictor4
Though I think if funny, that the modern trend is to remove all the hair that is not generally seen and spend a fortune titivating the stuff on top of the head.

Such are the mating rituals of humans.
That is the problem with society. The beauty standard today involves more extravagant hair and if I am bald, chances are that my school would maybe even scold me for being different. IDK why, maybe they have a drone on top of the field. That is what I find unattractive(or just plain grudge) about today's beauty standards. Pretend I wrote this on the other topic.

Are you referring to buns or what?
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DART 2022 June Myers-Briggs and Jung personality types.
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@3RU7AL
What exactly was the crucial difference between INTP and ENTP? I tend to get both of these periodically, sometimes even during adjacent tests done a few hours apart. I can't exactly say which one I am.

More than that, how do we define extrovert/introvert qualities? For context, I am a dude who just doesn't actively go out for socialization, but can obviously have a very nice chat with most strangers in the first few hours upon meeting(I don't necessarily hate or like such interactions, the main benefit is that I get a friend).

How do we measure it?
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Why do women tend to have longer hair than men on average?
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@Polytheist-Witch
@zedvictor4
@Poly
I am pretty sure I am not the one to be tagged.

Nonetheless, it is true that the evolved species does have a tendency to apply overthink.
Though I think if funny, that the modern trend is to remove all the hair that is not generally seen and spend a fortune titivating the stuff on top of the head.
I wish my hair can stop growing. It just simplifies things out. For example, I don't have to carry my pint-sized hair shampoo bottle from the constant motionage of my homes if there is no hair to begin with.

More than that, I wish having no hair is more normalized than it is, and as normalized as the most stereotypical hairstyles in society. 
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ANDREW TATE GOT BANNED FROM INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK
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@Vici
how am i doxxing people do you even know what that means? 
You aren’t(I hope). This is all hypothetical.

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Why do women tend to have longer hair than men on average?
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@Polytheist-Witch
First, I don’t need to.

Second, that is why I am asking. I don’t just automatically come with knowledge.
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Why do women tend to have longer hair than men on average?
This is not a stereotypical thing. Ok maybe it is, but because it is so common.

This is not applied in all cultures, it is just something I see in the "mainstream" western or even oriental culture.

But seriously what purpose does it serve?
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ANDREW TATE GOT BANNED FROM INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK
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@Vici
Well, he was knowingly discriminating against women and placing stereotypes on both men and women. If you consider that "orwellian", then maybe I guess reprimanding a Klan member for spreading white supremacy is also violation of free speech, so is arresting a man continuously shouting "Go kill yourself" to a large group of people on the street. At the end of absolute free speech is when speech cannot be used for defense on behalf of you.

For a smaller platform like Dart, constantly doxxing people and spamming jamming threads is enough to get you banned because that limits people from actually doing stuff. What Andrew Tate doing is encouraging thinking less into life and... essentially being an incel. Unless I am being mistaken, that is what it is. Even if there has been no violations(he probably has violated "something", given what I know about it), which in this case he should not be banned, people like this should be removed Asap from platforms because the amount of net benefit they have caused would still be far less than even the most unnoticed furry artist.

Hustling would just be an illusion of money materialistically working for you when you are a slave to wealth. Andrew Tate is really suggesting MORE capitalism to be infused into this society. Don't you think this society has already enough capitalism? We see Elon Musk transform from an inventor and entrepreneur with actual good ideas into an unfunny class enemy with more moldy ideas, for example. Maybe Andrew Tate is good for attracting the sheeple from the actual critical thinkers, but the existence of 14-year olds would be a reason why he isn't here anymore.
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ANDREW TATE GOT BANNED FROM INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK
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@Vici
On a scale from 0 to average Reddit user, how ironic are you?

I would place you at 150,000.
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How should we define "teacher", now and future?
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@zedvictor4
Wait till you hear about one of my teachers who majorly just assigns representative problems to solve on the textbook, and we actually learned how to do it. Less effective variations to this kind also exist. Web programmers and writers are as qualified to be a teacher as an actual teacher, with the only difference being that it isn't exactly institutionalized or categorized as a "school".


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Why didn't they come up with a CAP/lwrcase function on text editing softwares or webpages?
I think ctrl+Capslock could be a shortcut to this but it doesn't work on anything I have tried. I don't think this was mapped to anything, but if it were, I suggest this function like ctrl+B as bold and ctrl+U as underline.
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"Faith is the basis for my belief"
For anything that isn't objectively true(or false, inversely), the truth depends on what you believe. In an extended sense every belief requires faith to be true.
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Career or love-relationship
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@PREZ-HILTON
This is simple. Men should continue to prioritize their career, and women should prioritize family. 

Men love killing themselves to be providers by working 80 hour weeks for large checks.
This right here lol. You are using a flaw in the capitalist system as the basis for a stereotype concerning 50% of the population. 

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this game < mafia
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@K_Michael
@Vici
Can I get an explanation why mafia is for socialists? (As neither a mafia player or a socialist)
I would argue that this game is less capitalist than Mafia due to this "game", if you even call it that, is based on constructive feedback as in a community. Mafia meanwhile is themed an illegal scheme and has two opposite sides interdependent but also in rivalry. That is pretty oligopolistic if you ask me.



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why slavery is good
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@PREZ-HILTON
For a debater like you it is baffling that you are judging me by such rudimentary stereotypes.

I don’t discriminate against Black people, at least I don’t want to. Maybe your example is for an actual racist restaurant because they exist and we possibly despise them. Not all of us are like this.
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FORMAL REQUEST to ADD "HISTORY" as a NEW CATEGORY FORUM
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@zedvictor4
agreed.
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Platform development
I think the leaderboard would make sense if tied ratings were given the same rank. At this point, the top 30th and 31st debaters have the same exact rating point, but one is ranked lower than the other for no reasonable origin, hmm...

I would think that ratings of [2000, 1743, 1698, 1698, 1500, 1500, 1482] would have ranks [1,2,3,3,5,5,7] relatively as so on.
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FORMAL REQUEST to ADD "HISTORY" as a NEW CATEGORY FORUM
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@zedvictor4
@oromagi
You can put this topic in the history section and it won't even feel weird.
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Are there genuine moral disargeement?
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@Dr.Franklin
You are using that to justify why you think women don’t deserve voting rights. I am not convinced.

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@Dr.Franklin
Yes I do. Voting laws should be reverted back to the days of 1787. And segregation is up to states if they want to implement it, ok.
Why?

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BIDEN building the TRUMP WALL
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@Vici
The problem is that it is a climbable wall. This is just pouring money down the drain.
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How should we define "teacher", now and future?
If I open an informative site and left with considerably more knowledge than I had before, what is the teacher? Is it the site itself, or the writer of the webpages?
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How should we define "teacher", now and future?
Yes, I am the same guy who asked how TOEFL works, Being the abominable monster of whatever I think I am I am, I simply went off defining teachers as anything that can teach(which includes Khan Academy the website, the Iphone, the Youtube App, etc) and got away with it because they only care about examples.

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So, the justification for that is that if you insert a brain chip intended to enhance memory and essentially making a teacher more machine and less man mentally, it should still be considered as a teacher. If you chop the teacher's limb off, even put it into black armor or something, even going far enough that all "humanly" traits are gone and download the memory into a computer which retains all the memory and can display all of them freely, it would make no difference as that should still be a teacher. But after half-assing a proof, here is a question: does a teacher require sentience to be a teacher?

And let us not deny that websites and non-sentient objects like phones or even toasters can teach you stuff, regardless of them not being solely created to be teachers. Does a subject have to be specialized in teaching to be a teacher?

And I haven't started on part-time teachers working multiple jobs. I intend to apply the second question above to this group. How about scientists who just happen to lecture people because they are too good at their field and nobody else can teach it as good as them. Scientists are more bound to investigate the world than to teach it. In fact, any street cleaner paid minimum wage can teach me how to operate their sweeping vehicle on the street and any pianist can just teach me tunes, as long as they are willing. Is "Teacher" the title of a specific job or not, and are they a job that can be held by anyone? If not, what is the distinctive phrase describing what I have just described here?
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Why didn't they come up with a CAP/lwrcase function on text editing softwares or webpages?
You can bolditalic or underline in this text editor which is a rather rudimentary one compared to more professional and versatile ones like Word or WPS. I think the origin for these functions must have been old. Was there a cap/lower function like the bold function in older versions of any text editors and are just being phased out or did no one think of that?

I am not talking about this site. This site is fine without such function listed on top of a text writing box(in fact, writing all in bold or caps sorta makes you "yelling" which is impolite). I am talking about text editors in general, possibly its history.
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BIDEN building the TRUMP WALL
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@Vici
Here. Biden is not being a good president, mediocre at best. All these fundings to a wall that is actually climbable should just go to welfare to the people that need it.
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I am old as fuk
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@zedvictor4
Why do you think that people shun you as weird?
Because I see things much more controversial than they actually are, including views that are simply too "sacrilegious" to be brought up.

I have participated in a local debate tournament and they determined that I have lost simply because they thought my kritiks automatically have less weight despite each and every of them dealing a tangible blow to the topic.

Kritik is just a term for when the point that you have brought up was unexpected and they hate you for doing that. Either I am really obscure to see a kritik as a normal argument really or there is no difference and the council just lied to me for years. Sure, banning kritiks is probably for fairness because the points are easier to judge, but it makes actual existing points outside the box seem nonexistent. I unfortunately hate that environment so instead I fled online at this place where many people often kritik weirder than mine.
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Are there genuine moral disargeement?
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@Dr.Franklin
I don't agree. "human rights" are liberal lockean bullshit which has actually never existed. It's a complete fabrication and not grounded in reality.

In fact, the entire fucking predicate for "human rights" is literally based on the idea that humans in the "state of nature,  i.e before civilization, enjoyed freedom and rights. And that big scary government took away those rights when they entered a "social contract". As if that is how nation states and civilization came about...

"Human rights" was a philosophical thought experiment with zero basis in actual human social dynamics and history, and yet this enlightenment bullshit has formed the basis of the NWO domination, along with other imaginary civic abstractions such as "democracy"
Good, so you think that people are fine to starve and die without a shelter. So you think some people are perfectly fine having no voting rights or even rights to use some water fountains.

Because that is what happens if the concept of human rights never existed. Human rights may as well be as abstract as we all are, but they enforce equality and equity. And that is what actually matters.

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Are there genuine moral disargeement?
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@Solaris1
One possible one are Nazis, they believed we could violate the human rights of Jews. However, this disargeement is about reality, not ethics. The Nazis and I disagree not on the principal above, but one whether Jews are people. So there's no moral disagreement.
Actually, I think that because they are Jews makes for a convincing reason to abuse them... for the evil racists known as Nazis at least.

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I am old as fuk
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@Vici
but I cannot imagine being a man with full autonomy over myself choosing to sit here to talk to a niche community of nerds.  
I am possibly the only active Chinese user here. Most people just shun me as "weird" and stop talking. This place is the best to fulfill my hobby of freeform debating.
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why slavery is good
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@Vici
DONT CANCEL ME, IM JUST A PUPPET FOR RICHARD SPENCER. IM JUST SAYING HIS ARGUMENT. IM NOT A RIGHT WINGER, I VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS
Gosh, save yourselves some clicks to the keyboard if you had just titled this topic "Discussion: What benefits did Slavery bring?". Obviously it isn't as clickbaity, but I think this is what you are trying to talk about instead of this super controversial one.

You realize, that I or many people would find this page expecting to see super controversial statements spewed unironically(I am looking at you, Wylted), only to be disappointed that this is just a historical point of view. In fact, your "slavery is good" argument doesn't even account for millions of black slaves that are being ignored and mistreated, or how it outweighs them. Your original post is barely "why slavery is good" at all.
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why slavery is good
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@Vici
the argument is like this. if the europeans didn't come and swoop into the land of the indigenous, the indigenous would still be in their primitive lives without medicine, security of housing, nutritious food etc. but since the european boys came, even tho they enslaved some of them, OVER ALL, we can see that black people live better lives than they did 500. years ago. 
This can be done by repeating every part except slavery. Obviously you can put them here in a more humane ship, grant them rights immediately, let them understand English and let them vote. Sure society could grow faster this way. But no, go pick your cotton and be a nuisance to society, slavers said.

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evolution is a myth
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@Vici
if u think evolution is real, you really think we came from an ameba and that we are related to bananas.
yeah

if you ask any farmer, they will tell you that all their animals have only ever brought forth after their kind just as how god had said in the bible.
I asked my grandpa who plants stuff on a nearby patch of land as food this, and he responded with that God is not real. To be fair, both of us are throwing anecdotal evidence and we have achieved nothing.

is there ever a case wher ea dog gave birht to a cat? NO!!!!!!! a dog ONLY EVER GIVES BIRTH TO A DOG.
Because dogs and cats are evolved far apart enough that they cannot reproduce with each other. There is a biological term for that.

Maybe you should get down your high horse and actually read the scientific reports cover to cover before stopping and crying outrage. You can do that after.



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hall of fame
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@Vici
is it happening this year? where can i sign up? 
Yes, it is happing this year, at least according to the plans.

You don't sign up, others nominate you. You can nominate other users.


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