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@Umbrellacorp
Well then what did you do?
I never touched anyone, I will leave it at that.
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@Umbrellacorp
Sex offender?
Well, maybe thats a bit of a strong word. They send people to prison for anything these days.
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@Mall
Are you going to be live on YouTube or Discord?
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@Mall
I am available almost all day. Literally, sometimes I dont even sleep.
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@Mall
How about this, you can enter the chatroom, I can read what you text and can respond live in real time instantaneosly
Alright, that works, I guess. Although we need to agree on a topic. Any you have in mind?
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@adaptable
If you want to ever gain any power on this site, which is your goal, I suggest you stop with the slave morality reasoning. Slave morality is designed to keep you weak, and thinking it will ever make you powerful is a delusion.
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You dont know how privileged you are to own a home and farmland on top.There are people with your criminal record dead because of it. You are alive, own estate, run a farm and have readily available Internet.
As I said, about 95% of people in west live better than me. Sure, there is maybe 1% who has it worse, but its not much of a privilege to be in worse position than 95% of people even before I got any criminal record. Also, even most sex offenders in west have home. You have that slave morality where you always thank your masters (Gods and governments) no matter what they do to you. And the people like you are reason I live in a shithole country.
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@Adaptable
Also, I see that you have fallen into a trap of slave morality which is common for religious people and Communists. I dont see why someone who knew what slave morality is would decide to just fall for it.
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Your situation is literally better than a lot of westerners of your employment situation and record have it.
Sure, there are 1% to 2% of people in west who have it worse than me right now, only 0.3% of population are homeless. Not sure why you think that makes my situation good.
You have continuous internet access too, which is better than true undeveloped nation poor have it.
I am not sure why you keep doing same logical fallacy over and over. Existence of worse does not make something good.
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@adaptable
Its rare in the west for an unemployed person, esp with a criminal record to own a house.
Well, sure, but given how my country already fucked me in every way it could possibly fuck me from the very start of my life, taking away house would be a bit too much, not that I would be surprised if that happens too.
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You own a house do you realise how rare that is becoming in the West?
Its not rare anywhere. Generally, most people own homes, and those which dont, pay rent. Now, sure, I guess I am richer than someone who is homeless and has no money for rent.
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@Mall
I cant debate you live because I have speech disorder and generally cant talk good in real, it would just make viewers laugh.
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It is possible part of you nation's situation is that you can buy things cheaper too, rent cheaper etc.
Not really. I compared some prices to those in USA. Price of food in my country seems to be somehow higher or equal in most cases. I dont pay rent because I own a house, so that maybe is cheaper.
I recommend you either to convert or to accept life will stay stuck. As you convert things will shift in wsys you don't expect, God will carry you and it won't be easier rather it will seem simpler when he wants you to act. The people around you will make clear if they are with or against you too.
Well, I do believe in magic, but sadly my magic cant control my entire country to make it smarter. I dont think even magic can cure mass stupidity.
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@adaptable
Regardless, your record as a sex offender makes it VERY difficult to get a job
No, I can get job easily, I had job, I quit. The only jobs I cant get are jobs like working in kindergarten or babysitting.
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@WyIted
Just copy and paste all American policies
USA is about private buisnesses. My country is a place where private buisness earns least money. You are better off investing in gold than in private buisness here. The taxes you have to pay are so high that most private buisnesses fail.
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@WyIted
You literally speak English
Yes, along with 60% of the planet.
You could learn to code
For who? There are no such companies in my country, would take me years to learn, and AI will take that job anyway now.
and or learn sales or something you lazy bastard
Sales? What would I even be selling? 3rd world countries arent exactly famous for strong trade because people generally cant afford to buy what you want to sell.
There is zero reason you can't get online and larp as a rich asshole and have people send you money to teach them to be rich
So you are suggesting me to do... online scamming? I mean, no offense, but at that point, I might as well become Tik Tok tarot reader or provider of magic services, that too seems to be a common job on Tik Tok.
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So some people here have wondered why am I unemployed. Why I dont just "get a job".
And if I lived in first world country, I would get a job.
For example, in developed countries, wages go from 4000 to 6000 dollars per month.
But my country is a shithole.
Here, if you are employed by some private company, wage is 400$ a month.
So thats over 14 times less than in developed countries.
Now, ask yourself if you would work for 400$ a month.
And its not easy work. You basically lose 12 hours a day by working and going to work. You only get 4 hours of free time daily, which you spend being exhausted and in pain from work.
Thats 72 hours a week for a wage of 400$, plus overtime work sometimes.
And working conditions are generally terrible, even workers bully each other and talk shit.
What can you do with 400$? Basically nothing. You cant save money because there is almost nothing left to save once you cover basic expenses. Even if you min max economy by not owning a car and being a vegetarian who eats 2 meals per day, you are still not going to be left with much.
400$ a month is basically 14 dollars a day. There are kids in America who get bigger allowance than what I get from working a 12 hour job in my country. A teen working part time job in USA earns more than me working 12 hours a day here.
And the worst part is that you have nothing to look forward to in life. When you get old, you just end up being even poorer and having even less than 400$ per month then.
Shithole countries like Korea, China, Russia and any other 3rd world shit countries are just slavery systems. You work whole day and you still have nothing in life.
Thats what happens when you live in a country where people are retarded. There were even debates in my country about if 400$ wage is too high.
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@WyIted
None of my business whether you are there or not. It's somebody else's problem
Yeah.
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@WyIted
We are all going to migrate to the new site anyway. It is inevitable.
Not me, plus you probably dont want me there anyway.
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Thanks God
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@IlDiavolo
I think people who fear aliens are wrong, but people who believe in aliens could be right.
If aliens are capable of destroying us, they have not done so. So they dont seem any interested in destroying us right now. If aliens are not capable of destroying us, then again, no reason to fear yet.
I think alien invasions are generally incorrect ideas. If aliens do come, it wont be invasion probably.
My theory is that aliens are our "parents" and we are just growing and developing as Earth till we reach the stage where our civilization is like theirs.
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@Mall
Do you think all the "bad" people are in prisons and the "good" folks are outside the prisons?
Anyone who thinks that has IQ of a fly.
Do you support the death penalty?
In some very horrible cases, yes. But I am a supporter of voluntary death penalty, where person has a choice between life in prison or death penalty.
Those that do, you support abortion, right.
I dont support abortion in most cases.
Do you believe you're good and the God of the bible not ?
I dont believe that I am good. Its very difficult to be good.
What does God have to do , not do to be good?
Well, it would be nice if he improved this world a bit, if he feels like it.
Should he not forgive all those behind bars in prison like he's forgiven you?
I mean, he can forgive them if its his will, how would I even stop that? But maybe better strategy would be to improve those people.
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@Mikal
@Savant
I asked Grok 3, and it can code. I am sure its much faster than coding manually, and even if it makes a mistake, just ask it to code again until it gets it right. And its free. Grok 4 could be free soon too, but right now its expensive.
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Many people are thinking incorrectly about AI.
They think new jobs in future will involve just humans using AI to constantly make something.
That is mostly incorrect.
AI is good because AI produces songs faster than anyone else, movies faster than anyone else, books faster than anyone else, research papers faster than anyone else, arguments faster than anyone else.
So their conclusion is that AI will produce a lot, and humans will just control the quality, keep what is good product and throw away what is bad product.
And right now, that is true. Right now, when using AI, you produce as much as possible, then keep what is good. That is the basic strategy and the only possible strategy right now, along remembering and saving best prompts.
However, in future, AI will have ability to control own quality.
In other words, one AI will constantly produce lots of stuff, while other AI will serve as quality control to only keep the good.
Right now, AI has no good sense of what is good. So humans are needed as workers to control quality of what is produced and to keep giving commands to produce more.
This is called quantity to quality. AI produces great quantity of different things, and humans select what is best.
But future AI will be built in a way to know what is best. In other words, it will produce great quantity, and then AI will select what is best.
This new AI doesnt need humans after start. It just keeps producing, and separating good from bad.
But this new AI only requires 1 thing: knowledge of what is good. So in this case, human would have to correctly instruct AI of what is "good", and AI would just keep producing and selecting the good among produced.
In this sense, AI would compare outputs to see which output matches "good" more.
This new AI would be far more powerful, because AI is faster at choosing good than human is, so this AI would produce more than AI which needs human to control quality.
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@Mikal
If you need help with coding, Grok 4 is bragging to have great coding abilities, but right now its not free AI. But could be free soon. Grok 3 is free and can code too I think. Its also uncensored AI like Twitter is now basically uncensored.
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@FLRW
Intelligent life only exists on the Earth
Intelligent life doesnt exist on Earth.
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@Mall
What did the person do?
Posted a joke poem which was a bit too dark.
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@Umbrellacorp
French people fought to get freedom. Russian people fought to keep being oppressed.
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On my school notebooks
On my desk and the trees
On the sand on the snow
I write your name
Freedom
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@FLRW
Fuck Yeah!
Being honest is sometimes illegal.
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@Mikal
there's a strong chance the current site could go dark in the next few days
I will miss this site, but I do keep contact on discord.
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@Umbrellacorp
I know, in Germany, you get 5000$. Here, you get 400$. Life is fair.
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@Critical-Tim
Can I post this post on debate art YouTube channel?
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@Umbrellacorp
I am not in Poland, but lets just say that 400 dollars wage a month is "great" for 10 hour work a day.
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@Umbrellacorp
Lol, I'm going through that right now
My biggest issue was having no free time.
I would come from job at around 3 to 4. I have to sleep around 8. Only 4 hours of free time per day, but when you work in morning, you come tired as hell and the 4 hours pass in seconds and you get nothing. Then even having to work saturdays. My country is generally a shithole, and people at work treated me like shit too. Then I had back pain which made everything much worse because I would spend the little free time I have in pain. I said I would rather die than go back to working there.
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@Umbrellacorp
I doubt that but i get what you're saying.
Trust me, having to wake up at 5 in morning is like torture. Its impossible to get enough sleep unless you go to bed at 8 at night.
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@Umbrellacorp
I used to have a job in a factory, and yeah, having to wake up at 5 in the morning to eat and get ready because bus is at 6 to a job which actually starts at 7... is the reason I quit the job. Literally work 10 hours a day regularly, and then you are also "expected" to work overtime another 2 hours from time to time. Literal slavery, I think even North Korean workers live better.
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@Umbrellacorp
Maybe... I cant really tell if that is confirmed count.
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Do you realise Savant and Mikal oppose your moderation principles big time?
They were elected by popular vote to be moderators.
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They told you due to ME in the mod chat
That was when you werent even on the site.
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It is a fact WF was an incompetent moderator. He let you get away with literally advocating pedophilia being legalised here for far too longThe sole reason he has become better is the influence David is having as an announced new owner
This is not true. I was banned for 7 days years back. Then the warning regarding my thread about consent, both Whiteflame and Vader were specifically against that topic being debated here and both told me so. This was all before David being announced as new owner. Now, of course, I personally disagree with their rule because I still can debate that topic indirectly anyway, I just choose not to.
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No, its likepy the same reason they avoided defendi g against your thread while you all ganged on me.
If you think mods stayed silent so you get bullied instead in that thread, I dont think it is so. Whiteflame took your side and supported your claim even tho he didnt really have to do that. He could have said "it was not exactly so", but he supported you there 100% even tho you tried to overthrow him as moderator.
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@adaptable
I cannot. They ignore me, in fact this was their strategy often before, now its fulltime
Maybe its because you message them too much at once or because they are angry at you currently. I mean, moderators probably get 50 messages and reports from people every day from this site alone, so they have a lot of work. You do understand that theory of value is based on what is rare. The more often you message moderators, the more boring you become. Its just natural law, written in Tao too, that greatest beauty is only found in what is rare. What is everywhere is less appreciated. So be more rare.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
The next time I'm in a tense business meeting I'll attempt to lazily lick my ballsack and project alpha energy.
Well, that might not work. But generally, you want to talk slower, calmer, move slower, blink slower, walk slower. Practice some stillness, no pointless moves. You dont want to be too slow, you just want to send a signal "I am calm, unchallenged by anyone and in no rush".
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Multiaccounting with type1/sparrow (never happened, ever)
Multiaccounting evidence is only available to moderators and owner. Generally, multiaccounting can only be proved with IP address which is only available to owner and maybe moderators. It goes without saying that you should never post your IP address publicly here because it would likely reveal your address and allow someone to hack you. My IP address doesnt show my real address, but yours might. It depends on internet provider. So the evidence regarding multiaccounting must stay private. I wasnt around when Type1 was, and I cant really give opinion here.
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@Mikal
I dont care much about poem being deleted. Its just that original written reasoning for ban was so horrible and thank God they at least changed that.
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But anyway, the moderation log got updated, so I think there is no need for further debate on this.
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Whiteflame backed me up.
Until you give evidence of what was written, not your interpretation, you might as well have Jesus back you up and your case would still be at zero.
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@Castin
This statement?"He made an explicit poem that involved a grandmother grooming her young granddaughter to suck on her 'plums'. This then became her grandmother having a man who wasnt her grandfather that she regularly has sex with, named woodman who has plums, having some form of oral sex with both at once, again with 'plums' referred to."Damn, zed. Wouldn't have thought he'd post something like that.
He didnt post that. Thats literally just RM interpretation.
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