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@Umbrellacorp
America pays its citizens' healthcare
No, it covers the cost for some people who dont even pay taxes.
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@Umbrellacorp
i am sure that americans pay taxes as well
Incorrect, taxes depend on income.
The government doesn't pay shit.
Incorrect again. 2 trillions payed by government.
These incorrect claims of yours are getting really boring.
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@Umbrellacorp
I mean in germany
We were talking about USA here, you must be old and cant remember things.
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@Umbrellacorp
Your claims are delusional.
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@Umbrellacorp
I pay my fucking health insurance contributions
If that were true, you guys wouldnt beg for government healthcare. You want for government to cover the cost.
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@Umbrellacorp
Okay but did i ask you for money?
People who pay taxes pay for your healthcare.
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@Umbrellacorp
You learned a semester's worth today from me
Not really.
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@Umbrellacorp
Here is AI answer to your question:
"Programs like Medicare (for the elderly and disabled) and Medicaid (for low-income individuals) are designed to provide healthcare access to those who might not be able to afford it otherwise. "
AI gives education for free.
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@Umbrellacorp
I dont give free education, but you can ask AI to teach you.
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@Umbrellacorp
Ur welcome sweetie!!
Thanks for being a weak opponent.
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@Umbrellacorp
You win
I already knew that, but thanks.
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@Umbrellacorp
I need government to pay for my everything
At least you are honest now.
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@Umbrellacorp
No it's enough for today
Cant answer a simple question?
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@Umbrellacorp
Higher education is optional in germany
I wasnt talking about higher education.
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@Umbrellacorp
I can't tell if you are being serious anymore
It was your claim. So go ahead and explain why you need government to pay for your healthcare.
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@Umbrellacorp
Germany and USA both have private AND public universities
In Germany, you are forced to go to government school, and private universities are regulated. In USA, you can literally choose to never go to any government school in your whole life. See if you can spot the difference now.
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@Umbrellacorp
Yes they collect taxes but you still have to pay everytime you use it in USA
If person can pay for his own healthcare, then he doesnt need government to pay it for him.
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@Double_R
But what did they do instead? Pass legislation that will kick millions of them off leaving them with no way to pay for their healthcare
You guys should match your stories. You are telling me that people cant pay for their own healthcare, and this other guy is telling me that they do pay for their own healthcare. So figure out which one of you is wrong.
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@Umbrellacorp
I literally never said this
You do know that government collects taxes to pay for healthcare?
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@Umbrellacorp
Who the fuck said that
You said the systems were comparable and that Germany is best. But USA has private education.
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@Umbrellacorp
But the industry here is top
Maybe was in WW2, right now its below Russian level. If USA went back in time 50 years, it could still beat Germany as it is today.
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@Umbrellacorp
USA does not only have private education
So USA has private education not controlled by government while Germany doesnt.
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@Umbrellacorp
I said germany produces good equipment. I didn't say it has a strong military.
Not really good. I think German military is about 15 years behind US military in technology.
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@Umbrellacorp
Yes.
Its military budget is 10% of that of USA's.
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@Umbrellacorp
They also have a comparable system to europe
I recommend you to check your claims by asking AI before making those same claims. I dont think you even know what private education is.
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@Umbrellacorp
People pay the taxes. And they use the healthcare they have paid for themselves and not paid for by the 'others'
So you think a person pays money to government, so that government could pay to insurance company, so that insurance company pays for that same person's healthcare?
I have read many dumb claims on internet, but thats probably one of the dumbest.
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@Umbrellacorp
Germany produces many high quality military equipment and weapons
No.
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@Umbrellacorp
This is literally how all western systems are
Except USA, which might explain why USA has bigger GDP than entire Europe combined.
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@Umbrellacorp
To avoid centralized power
Not centralized government is still government.
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@Umbrellacorp
please do some research about german weapons and military equipment
US Navy alone could wipe Germany off the planet lol
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@Umbrellacorp
Everyone writes what they want
And the one writing what government likes gets selected.
We have a very complex and sophisticated legal system in germany
So you think government made a law to prevent government from controlling education?
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@Umbrellacorp
Another lie. Any reason why you say this?
Almost all new technology comes from USA. Remember the cool fighter jet?
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@Umbrellacorp
Selected or approved.Where do the options come from tho?The government does not write textbooks
So you concede that government controls which text books you will learn from, hence anyone who writes them must adapt to government's requests to be selected. This was very easy win for me.
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@Umbrellacorp
Well, that is not 'others'. that is your taxes!
Who do you think pays taxes?
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@Umbrellacorp
We have great fucking schools here
Then the people who go to those schools must be really stupid, given that Germany is decades behind USA in technology.
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@Umbrellacorp
Literally a lie
Alright, lets ask ChatGPT to see who is right.
"In Germany, the selection of educational material in schools is done by the individual state governments (called Bundesländer).
Here's how it works:
1. Federal Structure
Germany is a federal country, and education is primarily the responsibility of the 16 states (Länder). Each state has its own Ministry of Education, which sets curricula, approves textbooks, and oversees schools.
2. Curriculum and Textbooks Curricula (Lehrpläne) are developed and decided by the state governments. Textbooks and other teaching materials must usually be approved by the state authorities before being used in public schools. Teachers can often choose among approved textbooks, but only within those officially sanctioned options. 3. Role of Teachers
Teachers generally have some freedom in how they teach, but they must stay within the curriculum framework set by the state and often must use state-approved materials.
4. Private Schools
Private schools (Privatschulen) have more freedom, but they still must meet basic educational standards set by the state.
Summary:
Yes, school education material is selected (or approved) by the government, but at the state level, not the federal level. Each German state decides what students learn and which materials are allowed."
Looks like I win.
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@Umbrellacorp
So it is not 'others' paying for your healthcare
What do you think is 2 trillions in government budget for healthcare?
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@Umbrellacorp
Were they punished?
The mere fact that they were mass reported shows Poland's IQ.
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@Umbrellacorp
what did you mean by government run
The government controls how school is run and what is taught.
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@Umbrellacorp
'Others' being the government and insurance companies who collect their taxes and contributions??
No.
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@Umbrellacorp
This is what European government run education gives you:
"In 2019, there was an uproar over a Madonna with a halo in the colors of the LGBTQ+ movement. All over the country, people filed criminal complaints with the public prosecutor's office against the three young women who had circulated the image. They were accused of "offending religious feelings" by portraying the Madonna in the colors of the rainbow. This is a criminal offense in Poland, punishable by up to two years in prison."
The government provides the facilities but the literature and material is written by professional academics
Really? I thought it was written by rabbits.
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@Umbrellacorp
i do not live in the usa but we have free education in germany
In Europe, people go to prison for comments they post on internet. Thats the kind of a country free government controlled education gives you.
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