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@ILikePie5
I’ll keep em in check Dw
Good man. I hope your town lol .
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After bullish flips scum, anyone who did not participate eagerly on his lynch should be immediate fos tomorrow.
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@Bullish
The gun is a goddamn item from the role list
So whats your actual role lol. Were you given the item or did you just start out with it. If you started out with it im calling bs. Also justify so many vig roles with the rest of the killing roles.
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@Bullish
What does a sheriff exiting have anything to do with my claim? If i was sniper, the existence of a sheriff would be irrelevant to me, because the sheriff's identity is ALWAYS revealed, but a sniper's identity is NEVER revealed.Plus I literally said right there in my DP1 soft claim post that my PM implies there are other people with guns. So you're wrong to say I had no idea a sheriff would exist. In fact I had a good idea the sheriff had a high chance of existing.None of this even slightly goes against the fact that if I was sniper, I would just NOT CLAIM and it would be a far more optimal scum play.
Every single player in this game has a role from drafters list. Everyone who has flipped or claim. And you are just claiming to randomly own a gun lol. Its more likely you are a sniper. You can't argue out of this one.
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@ILikePie5
He claims he had a gun. Sheriffs also have guns. The 50/50 is there so he isn’t lying about that part. At the same time though the fact that Warren got in his PM that there are other guns out there kinda confirms him. Also consider the fact that Mafia would have an extra kill. We have more than enough time and through POE we can bring it down to 2 people. If Bullish is scum and has the gun then it’s even more likely that he’s the only scum
Bullish has to be scum sniper. Warrens role confirming other guns doesn't confirm they are town. With all the town killing roles you think their are 2 sheriffs lol? Hand me the bomb, i'll explode with it if you lynch bullish with me. Bullish is 100% scum. I thankfullypointed out the sniper logic thanfully before he shot, because it seemed most logical.
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@ILikePie5
What do you think of bullishs name not being revealed?
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@MisterChris
Well Bullish actually makes a good point.I'm just wondering who to pressure if not him...
It's not a good point, btw, Bullish had no way of knowing there was a sherriff when he claimed.
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@ILikePie5
I’d like claims from y’all as well
Im vanilla.
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Oro being TP is perfect also because it doesn't confirm bullish.
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@Bullish
If i was sniper why tf would I claim when I can just shoot whoever the fuck I want? I fucking confirmed u monkeys.
Because you wouldn't have known that there was a sheriff :)
Bullish is scum.
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Bullish is refusing to comply with towns wishes, lets lynch him.
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@Bullish
pie is the confirmed townie, comply with pie!
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Here's another thought I just had; If warren is the confirmed sherrif and theres a second gunman, bullish could be the sniper. Another reason to have bullish shoot oro. If his name isn't revealed, then we know bullish is scum!
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I mean we potentially lose or we potentially win here, its kind of a crap shoot but YOLO lol
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Right, I guess I missed that. Interesting he wasn't killed, but chances are mafia also missed it.
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@ILikePie5
You wanna ping pong or go with the plan in post 58?
Im open to either, but atm Im trying to figure out if warren just scum slipped or if my brain is too tired to interpret exactly what he just said. But sherriff shouldn't know another gun exists right? He claimed he lied because he knew bullish had another gun and was trying to confuse mafia to save him or something.
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@warren42
I can confirm that's how mine was worded too, I lied about the chance of it mis-firing because in the off chance mafia didn't know that I didn't want them to know they could potentially steal or sabotage Bullish's gun, but it's all in the open now
How did you know bullish had a gun?
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@Bullish
my bad boys we only get 3 kills in a row cause scum gets a night kill at the end. Could still work depending on how pie's bomb works.
No night kill tonight since speed was killed
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@ILikePie5
I still think that role would be town. Kind of busted if mafia have a night kill and a day kill, especially in light of a bomb giver and a troublemaker which gives double lynches. I think a lot of these roles were designed to give town killing options. I don't even think it's third party in light of your bomb revelation. I don't think warren is scum
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@ILikePie5
You know, I agree the shot on supa was probably rash but I think warren is town confirmed. If all roles in the game are on drafters list (I am assuming they are because he has linked it in both day phases and all deaths so far line up with the list).
The two day killing roles I can see in the mafia spreadsheet are Sheriff (Line 65) and Sniper (Line 68). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_pFVyzYrrc2kkwkX60hMmmTeYrM0bC3LejPCYtLZ9cQ/edit#gid=0
Sheriff is a town aligned role, since all of the mafia roles usually specify when they are, and sniper specifies that it doesn't join the mafia pm. The difference between the two though, is that warren's sherriff publicly revealed him, which aligns with sheriff, not sniper.
Inb4 "role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation" I think it does, for a drafter game at least. In your game pie, he was willing to lynch greyparrot because "Gramps is a scum role". I know he was actually claiming electrician and drafter either didn't read or was trolling, but you get a peek into his head on that one, enough to see he thinks roles should have a specific affiliation, at least in regards to his list.
Thoughts?
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@ILikePie5
Alright make sure you tell oro who you want him to pass it to as well. I suppose we could lynch, depending on if the bomb hits scum. This favors scum lynching town with a bomb but there is a good chance we can catch one of them in a panic and know who to lynch.
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@ILikePie5
I think we can delay the role claims from everyone besides our top 2 scum reads till next DP. If we don’t lynch the Anarchist today then someone will have the bomb again tomorrow.
Sounds good, I'll follow you on this, and support throwing the bomb to whoever you think is the scummiest.
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unvote, in case mafia hammer killing oro and pie lol
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@ILikePie5
I am trying to think of ways we could use it to potentially confirm a scum. The best thing I can think of is to have you pass it to whoever you suspect most. We unanimously decide to defer the lynch and instead use the bomb for the day's lynch. Whoever has the bomb has to publicly state who they are passing it to. If someone lies about who they passed it to, we know we can lynch them next day phase. If the bomb goes off we essentially get a random lynch. Might even end up on scum. If the phase doesn't end, we can count that as our lynch and VTNL or if someone lied just vote them. Thoughts?
I am open to better plans for this as well. I am sure we are missing a way to use this to our benefit.
Also it should be stated if we were to go with my plan, that anyone who passes it to pie for any reason, is instantly scummy. In fact if we do this plan, we probably out to force all the remaining claims out.
Thoughts?
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Pie is confirmed town by the way I'd say unless this is some big brained strat. If scum, I would just hold on to the bomb until right before a hammer went off or the time ran out and toss the bomb to someone randomly without mentioning it.
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@ILikePie5
Uh, do you have an important role? If not I would just hold on to it. If you do, and we can't decide who pass it to by the end of the day, you can give it to me. I am not a huge loss to town role wise, just mislynch wise.
More importanly that shows us we have a likely third party in the game, I don't see that role as town though, either way. In the notes it says stuff about third party.
Sounds like a pretty chaotic, fast paced game. But so was drafters last one too
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Nice hit on speed. We definitely can afford the mis vig yesterday now.
I am okay pressuring oro, though a general lack of contribution from his is usually kind of expected, his activity will occasionally peak. I am equally okay with pressuring bullish since he was trolling all day phase. I mean he had to have been, because he isn't that dumb about both the joke thing and not understanding pie's vig...
vtl oro
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darn lol I was about to write up a big post with my thoughts on supa just being dumb and stubborn and probably mis -explaining his role lol
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@Vader
no need, my cntrl+f works perfectly fine plus Im already ahead of you
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@Speedrace
I just looked at it and I suppose it kind of lines up.
He explained it oddly though.
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I am gonna re -read supa, his super defensiveness combined with a lack of genuine interest in scum hunting outside of OMGUS, and his misunderstanding of how his role is actually game ending has me initially scum reading him and nothing he has said has eased that suspicion quite yet. Also I could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing a role like his in drafters role list, and I am pretty sure drafter linked that role list at the start of the game, which I would suspect means all roles come from that list. Can someone double check for me?
I am heading to work, I'll check back in like an hour and a half.
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@Vader
Good point whiteflame. Why would not lynching cause town to lose the game
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@ILikePie5
I didn't like about how that role worked. Pie confirm; I could only kill the mafia who targetted me.If mafia killed you and you targeted the scum member that was doing the NK on you it would go through. If you target another scum member, yours wouldn’t go through. If no scum targeted you, your shot would go through lolIt really wasn’t rocket science lol
All of this was publicly explained to bullish
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@Vader
Anyways, your at l-1. Why shouldn't we lynch you?
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@Bullish
@ILikePie5
This is ending up like last game where I was confused till the end about how Lunatics role worked. Except in that game he was even weak vig, he lied about it, he was just regular 1x vig.
I didn't like about how that role worked. Pie confirm; I could only kill the mafia who targetted me.
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@Bullish
I mean he's not town confirmed or anything, I was just pointing out that if you were on him because you actually you thought he is "changing" his claim, then you deserve a feature in r/woosh.
If there is another reason you expect people should be on him though, you are welcome to elaborate why and make a case for it at any point.
If there is another reason you expect people should be on him though, you are welcome to elaborate why and make a case for it at any point.
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@Vader
I didn't complain. I just said there isn't anything to go buy
Is that gonna be your only contribution in this game, to opine on the progress made by others? If so, what's to lose from lynching you now for the same reasons I lynched whiteflame last game?
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@Vader
Then why complain about a lack of information or even bring it up?
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@Vader
There has been nothing to pursue. There was an overreaction to a joke. That's as much info as there will be so far
And what will you do to pursue more info, if this is such a problem to you?
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@Vader
Overreaction to a joke, seesh that's all the info we are getting in DP1
I mean in the 14 hours or so the games been up... What is your contribution to getting more information, if information is what you think we should be pursuing?
vtl supa
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