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@RaymondSheen
I'm asking these people did Jesus lie and can't get a yes or no flat.
Scripture say " But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
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@Sidewalker
How do you know what or which news is fake?
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Probably shocks you guys to hear a woman say "yes, I'm MRS. ...." whatever the man's name is huh.
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@TheUnderdog
Depends on the knowledge of how much a person can know to agree to ideally.
By law that's too great so it's more general.
I guess I can't make a general age number.
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@FLRW
325, that's a lot money to be carrying around.
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@Best.Korea
Yes he's fat loaded with money.
Pockets so fat, pants so big, can only walk so fast.
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Freedom is not good in nature.
Slavery is not bad in nature.
Force is not bad in nature.
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@TheUnderdog
Age of consent for sex with anybody are you asking?
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Unless you're being harassed to a belligerent hostile extent, block them.
But just because you don't like what somebody says, the person doesn't agree with you or maybe doesn't understand that well, you get upset at them, block for it like a punishment.
You're just running from the heat.
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I say again. Unless an individual is harassing you to an adverse extent, it's cowardice to get into blocking.
Learn to relax, grow patient, learn a bit.
Now there was an individual on this site that continued to hound my debate topic repeatedly taking every single challenge not allowing others a chance but I didn't block the person.
In this debate arena, you got to have thick skin. Let alone the forum.
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@zedvictor4
I'll accept that. It is not necessarily but is.
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You don't want to address me in the forum but want a debate with me, you must address me in the debate
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That's up to you folks that want to debate, apparently I got you on the run.
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@Tradesecret
Yes there's scripture that says Christianity came from God nor has ordained from the foundation of the world.
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@ebuc
Pro choice is pro abortion/homosexuality altogether.
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@Castin
I'm just asking did he lie or not.
If you don't know, say so .
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@RaymondSheen
To learn like everything else I do on here .
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-When they block you for relentless arguing for your position
- When they block you for being unapologetic
- When you argue against their position
-When you disprove their position
- When they claim they've refuted you then block you for it
- When they get frustrated, upset, gripe because they underestimated the heat of the kitchen they stepped in with you
They're on the run, running scared. When you easily refute someone, you don't run from them.
A boxer that easily thwarts an opponent is not running from him. He is no challenge as the "clubber lang" character said.
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@RaymondSheen
Put away anger and malice. I asked several individuals on here, do you get frustrated, upset , etc.?
I ask them what are they doing to overcome that.
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@zedvictor4
The scripture has not been proven partially fictitious or true either, except for those of us that believe.
I have to make an amendment there. It has been proven true to those that have as you say "seen the light".
But that just comes down to subjective experience and anyone is blind until their eyes are opened. This is according to the book.
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@zedvictor4
It be incorrect if the subject is proven opposite then you've assumed correctly.
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@Double_R
Ok so let's open up the basis and reasoning here .
Why would I believe in people having the right to decide to do whatever they want to do if I disagree with them on a serious subject and result?
We're not talking about me disagreeing with you choosing ketchup over mustard.
Let's us be clear , consistent and specific to the center of this topic.
When you have a contradiction such as what you're suggesting, of course nobody is going to understand.
Think about it. Do you support the choice of a continuous murderous person?
Why or why not? Do you support the choice of children using all kinds of drugs ongoing?
Do you support the choice of a pedophile that consistently engages in pedophilia?
If you say yes, to what end would be the point?
I'm sure the majority would say no. If you say no, the point of that end would be the same over the abortion issue which you tout there's no support in and of itself but to the same end, so there's no need to give strength to a decision of an act you're actually opposed to .
Quit the half stepping and compromising.
"Cherry picking? WTF? It’s literally the topic of this thread."
No it absolutely is not. Quote me where I specified the dilemma you broached.
"If everyone agreed that there was justification to bring the pregnancy to term we would not be having this conversation. This debate exists specifically because there are instances where, for whatever reason, the woman who is pregnant does not wish to carry the pregnancy to term, so she has already decided that there isn’t justification. The only question at hand here is whether she gets to decide that or not. This debate has exactly zero to do with whether you or anyone else wants her to have the baby."
Look the point I'm discussing in relation to abortion is that pro choice is pro abortion. These two are one in the same. That's all I'm discussing.
You can keep trying it again all you're going to, not we .
I say again:
You're asking me to explain how a dilemma you cherry picked is not a dilemma.
I'm not arguing what you're cherry picking.
The point of this topic is pro choice is pro abortion.
Now you can argue that you can support a choice without supporting the result attached to it or yield and concede that you can't.
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@Double_R
You're basically saying I can support the choice resulting in abortion even though I'm against abortion.
This is a contradiction.
You're asking me to explain how a dilemma you cherry picked is not a dilemma.
I'm not arguing what you're cherry picking.
Your hand picked circumstance is not every circumstance. So in a case where there's no dilemma and there's more than enough justification to actually bring a pregnancy to term, no issues whatsoever, if you truly stand for no abortion, you would not want anything to contradict that or else you be lying.
Even if you're in a dilemma, it may be a way of proving where you truly stand or have you been disingenuous.
Do you support the choice of a continuous murderous person?
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@FLRW
The bible has not been proven fictitious so it is incorrect to assert that it is.
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@Stephen
The bible has not been proven fictitious so it is incorrect to assert that it is.
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@Amber
Well said with no rebuttal.
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@TheUnderdog
Depends on the law of the country.
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@zedvictor4
The bible has not been proven fictitious so it is incorrect to assert that it is.
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@zedvictor4
Possibly.
The god that the christian faith found.
I would have to get clarity from which Christian or Christians we're talking about.
I think I have a topic thread about the scriptures teaching Christian and Christianity is a man invented religion, hence all these different denominations.
The thing is , just because you can't prove the bible false, doesn't mean it's automatically true. It doesn't make it automatically false. This is why I encourage you to only make neutral statements on it.
Don't say it's fictitious or mythical or anything of that sort. If you don't believe in it, just leave it at that.
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@Sidewalker
Yeah .
That's what it is. Pro choice= pro abortion.
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@TheUnderdog
The person has to understand and learn of what you're talking about on his or her own and take a stance.
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@IlDiavolo
Give you the title, I believe there was more than one with me.
Debate title:
God Exists Le Sixième
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@RaymondSheen
I understand. Even the scripture says wipe the dust off your feet.
But besides scriptural matters, I still have cause to debate so I debate thy cause.
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@zedvictor4
I don't know what a " fictitious hypothesis " is .
If you're saying you can't prove what is fiction, you can or else it wouldn't be called fiction most likely.
Can you prove the bible false?
I don't know. I say that because I don't know everything.
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@zedvictor4
Let's not do this "you know what I'm talking about".
This isn't a social small chat network. We're still in a debating platform where specific words as is will be used against you or for you.
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@Double_R
If I have a choice between losing money or not, that is apropos to abortion and non abortion.
You deliberately tailored a dilemma that's not necessarily the circumstance.
If I'm really for no abortion as you may claim the pro choice position does not support,no abortion ,why am I not just pro life?
Why would I support the choice resulting in abortion, if I truly don't support abortion?
I would just be pro life because there's no wiggle room. The pro choice position allows wiggling and and gray areas for the result to be anything that conflicts if I'm truly pro life see .
You keep saying this "lesser of two evils" rhetoric like you have to compromise.
People that have that kind of position will define pro choice that way in relation as to why they're compromising or in the middle. Meaning people that are not in favor of abortion initially but compromise that for whatever reason to get to accepting abortion or will have to support it to be lenient and accommodating for whatever reason. I'm not going to speculate on the reason whether it could be justified or not .
That's what you're thinking about when you think of pro choice and think about "well I'm in a situation where I have to compromise my money so I pick the stance that might get me less money losses. So I compromise what's supposed to be my true values of life in a chance for life to be picked ".
You're example is not apropos even with this because you're pro choice for a chance of one thing over another, not for certain to get that one thing. You can lose big. So much for compromise.
You have people that know you do not have to compromise and can stand firm on your values. You're not stuck in the false dilemma.
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@Sidewalker
The context of "pro choice" in this topic is abortion or non abortion, so let us not shy away from that.
We're not talking about freedom of choice to do anything or unlimited options because you'll have a problem with that.
Instead of biting off more than what you can argue, let us stick to the options in this topic.
When you're pro choice in the case of pregnancy ok, you stand in support of the freedom to go with abortion or non abortion.
I mean really to be blunt and just answering that for you .
That's what it is. Pro choice= pro abortion.
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@TheUnderdog
I guess everybody has to decide for themselves on that .
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