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@WyIted
The first one is spot on as it is the very best to avoid.
In a topic where the foundational line is blurred, made arbitrary, the point of contention is configured in Play-Doh.
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@zedvictor4
Yes it is the issue. We're not having heated discussions over necessary medical treatments such as organ transplants or chemotherapy.
So it's controversial for a reason. People don't agree and agree, looking at it as killing off the next generation and looking at it as not valuable because.... whatever reason people want to use.
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@Intelligence_06
Yes even secular people have religion, atheists and theists alike. Now people that say separate religion from whatever, they have a particular religion or religions in mind so that their religion can be in place.
Again, what is legislated are what people believe in, not anything they don't.
That's what many don't get and I know they won't when it comes to this topic.
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@TheUnderdog
A mother don't need to be told. That's what the love of a mother is.
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@TheUnderdog
To a mother, some mothers they put their children's lives before their own whether born or unborn.
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@Owen_T
If you feel nothing is wrong with slavery, I guess it wouldn't be bad.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I know I got a point thanks.
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@Double_R
With your logic which is liberal, functionality really doesn't have an order to it. It's not objective or fundamental. It just gets arbitrary where the foundational line is blurred or just imaginary where the given function just becomes meaningless.
It's like saying lungs just function according to what we want or the oxygen we breath or our eyes. Things have an inherent function. You can turn away and reject that to protect the liberalism of others.
There are people that recognize these actual functions while saying they'll use the thing however they want to use it at the same time. But at least they acknowledge the actuality of that.
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@zedvictor4
Sociological development, that's very broad.
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@Savant
It's because what is legislated are the beliefs of people.
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No such thing as separation of church (religion) and state.
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Is gravity a theory or fact?
Was the moon landing a hoax?
Was Area 51, Roswell, the alien autopsy that was hosted by Mr. Frakes a hoax?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Pregnancy is not a risk, it is the function of sex.
Society is misusing sex looking at the function of something as what they don't want which is what a risk is classified as.
It's like taking medicine to use to get a high or consuming coca leaves, coffee beans, spices - fennel, dill, cinnamon, saffron or nutmeg.
All of these things that have a functional use that can be and is diverted swapping for what would be the actual risks.
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@zedvictor4
"Recreational" sex is the reason why all this abortion issue exist.
It's like playing (recreational) with matches or a gun.
These things have their function. When you use or engage in these things, expect the function of these things to occur.
These things and activities are not treated as such. You know that expression "handle a gun like it's loaded".
People confusing risk with function. Function is the mostly thing to happen or will happen working the components of a thing essentially functioning it to do what it does.
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@Moozer325
People just find something to criticize about.
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@TheUnderdog
Liberty and guns build toughness.
I'm inclined to believe that the military boot camps, martial arts and athletic training actually builds that.
Does a gun make me tough?
No it actually dampens any toughness I could have by the means I broached.
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The ones responsible for the riots are those that rioted only.
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@Best.Korea
Either what I said was true or false .
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@Double_R
Bad analogy plain and simple.
Having children by way of sex is not a risk but a function.
The public has been brainwashed to believe that the FUNCTION of sex is risk, no .
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@Owen_T
Maybe you want to quote what I said and I can respond directly to that.
Maybe easier than trying to address all these ideas.
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@TheUnderdog
Ok then all these penalties and punishments are a way of silencing these individuals speech which in those that given in the past proved not to be supported.
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@Sidewalker
That's what I thought.
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@Owen_T
I don't know how you're defining science.
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@zedvictor4
Maybe the word "designed" throws you off.
For you we can say the functional use .
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@TheUnderdog
@Owen_T
But does an older age mean more value?
We're not talking about what is the same broadly speaking. We're talking about value.
I asked this specifically to this other individual.
"If you didn't have to choose one, would you consider both as having the same value?"
I didn't ask about being the same, I asked same value.
If you say no, then there's a conflict.
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@TheUnderdog
Do you believe in pedophilia being practiced?
Do you believe nobody should be incarcerated?
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@Best.Korea
Why would I have to search anywhere when we know where the imagination it came out of from?
You guys got to realize the difference between knowing a story that has been made up by a writer versus not knowing.
Don't conflate the two.
You guys got to realize the difference between knowing a story that has been made up by a writer versus not knowing.
Don't conflate the two.
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@Sidewalker
Looks like you don't disagree.
Trolling is not refuting.
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@TheUnderdog
But for all ideas, no support for complete freedom of speech right.
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@Best.Korea
Sex is designed for having children. It is not designed to not have children.
If you don't want something as result of doing something, then it doesn't logically follow to do that something.
Trying to backtrack and go around this is actually the false logic.
It's like saying I want good health via unhealthy food . Illogical.
If you don't want something as result of doing something, then it doesn't logically follow to do that something.
Trying to backtrack and go around this is actually the false logic.
It's like saying I want good health via unhealthy food . Illogical.
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@zedvictor4
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@Owen_T
That child was once a zygote.
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If you don't want children, don't have sex. Plain and simple.
It's just like playing with matches. If you don't want to get burned, it's nothing to play with.
The problem is, people misuse sex. So we have all this issue.
Unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy.
Stop making a game between yourselves out of lying down.
These are matches you playing with. The responsibility is not running from the consequences.
Take the responsibility not to engage. Just like with the use of alcohol. Drinking games and whatnot. So we have all these DUIs and vehicular homicides.
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@TheUnderdog
People don't have complete freedom of speech just as actions.
For the safety and protection of others, there are instances to not believe in it being used.
For the safety and protection of others, there are instances to not believe in it being used.
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@Best.Korea
I believe what you're talking about has been proven to be fiction so that is off the table.
Real talk .
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@zedvictor4
No one has an idea including scientists but until the scripture can be proven false or the big bang can be proven false just to be fair on both sides, each one of these current seemingly inconclusive scenarios are just that .
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@3RU7AL
Atheists believe that God doesn't exist.
If they didn't believe that, they wouldn't be atheists.
Hope you get that.
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@Owen_T
Good point.
If you didn't have to choose one, would you consider both as having the same value?
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@FLRW
Do atheists believe the God in what's called the bible does not exist?
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@FLRW
There's no strongest argument for atheism at all.
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@sadolite
Atheism has no strong or strongest argument at all.
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@Owen_T
There's no strong or strongest argument for atheism. Atheism is another religion.
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@TwoMan
Weak argument. The weakest of all.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Consent to sex is consent to pregnancy.
Just like eating unhealthy is agreement to poor health.
You know better.
These people know better.
They know what they're getting involved in.
They think they're being responsible using so cold birth control.
The real birth control is abstinence.
Did you not know sex was not designed to prevent births nor designed to be prevented against?
This is why we have all this backfiring. Things are not being done in order and approached in order.
Just like eating unhealthy is agreement to poor health.
You know better.
These people know better.
They know what they're getting involved in.
They think they're being responsible using so cold birth control.
The real birth control is abstinence.
Did you not know sex was not designed to prevent births nor designed to be prevented against?
This is why we have all this backfiring. Things are not being done in order and approached in order.
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@TheUnderdog
If you don't want children, don't have sex. Plain and simple.
It's just like playing with matches. If you don't want to get burned, it's nothing to play with.
The problem is, people misuse sex. So we have all this issue.
Unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy, unwanted pregnancy.
Stop making a game between yourselves out of lying down.
These are matches you playing with. The responsibility is not in running from the consequences.
Take the responsibility not to engage. Just like with the use of alcohol. Drinking games and whatnot. So we have all these DUIs and vehicular homicides.
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