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Did you know this about the holy scriptures?
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@Tradesecret
Correction: Yes there's no scripture that says Christianity came from God nor has ordained from the foundation of the world.

Man invented the religion of Christianity. Where it says people were predestined or predestinated, it says holy, not christian.
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Consented sex is consented pregnancy. Unwanted pregnancy is irrelevant.
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@Reece101
If you say so. I don't know what your agenda is on the subject you're talking about.

Topic has nothing to do with what you've been asking me.
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@Reece101
Does the value of a baby depend on how it was conceived?

I thought this may be the question but I want clarity.

I guess that depends on the person as the person sets different values which creates the pro choice position.

To some it doesn't, that creates the pro life position.

Like I said I'm not taking a position here so I suggest you digress.

If you disagree that consented sex is consented pregnancy, say so. Otherwise I take it that you agree.
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The dollar bill is yo massa.
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@TheUnderdog
I guess a slave to another one. Unless you can prison break out the monetary prison, all those who are participants of the economy are subject to it.
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Does consent to sex = consent to the risk of pregnancy? Why or why not?
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@TheUnderdog
"The claim, “If you turn on the remote, then you consent to the chance that the TV will be on” is not a fair analogy because it doesn’t meet all of the following requirements:"

I don't know where the claim "If you turn on the remote" came from. I know I mentioned pressing the button on the TV remote to turn the TV on.

It's very simple. We don't have to complicate it. You don't do something that you know what  result will be and say "oh I didn't consent or agree".

No basis in doing it in the first place then.

You can't plead ignorance if you actually know as you appear paradoxical which is what is going on with people crying about not wanting something by doing something to get the very thing they don't want .

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@TheUnderdog
The alternative to what?

Are you asking to working or not working?
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Does consent to sex = consent to the risk of pregnancy? Why or why not?
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@TheUnderdog
First off pregnancy is not a risk but an inherent function.

It's like the function of pressing the button on the TV remote to turn the TV on. It's not a risk being an expected inherit outcome as the point of that remote.
Which is the function of that remote.
You may refuse or reject the function like you would a risk you'd avoid. You don't want the TV on but you're doing the act that is structured to execute. I'll say structured. Apparently people struggle with the word "designed" .

In this day and time, function has been reduced, downplayed to an insignificant entity treated as more of a probable risk trying to use methods to evade it.

The consistency for pregnancy to occur is anticipated for something that is structured to the point of it occuring . Unlike a risk that is arbitrary inconsistently based on hit or miss variable factors.

The question of how can the abortion and birth control dilemma and controversy end will never end because the expectancy of something to function to not inherently function as it does is false.

Banning or legalizing abortion which some believe legalizing is a step towards no abortions by compromise which is false, this has not ended the dilemma and controversy.
People are criminals and still do things regardless of the law in one instance or another.


To end all of this, you have to start with the mindset of every individual when it comes time to look at playing with fire.
Fire will burn . Now either stay away or take on the aftermath of being exposed to the heat.
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@TheUnderdog
Like I said I don't know why you asked about harm to non consenting people.

Maybe you meant consenting people.
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Why is child porn illegal?
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@Best.Korea
Simply not holding a pro pedophilia position causes illegal policies to exist around children and sexuality.
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@Reece101
Do you care to rephrase that to get a better grasp on that question?
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About the moon landing.
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@zedvictor4
According to perspective it would be necessitated upon that.
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About the moon landing.
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@cristo71
Very good.
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@zedvictor4
Ok medical surgical professionals. Who else than they?
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The insurrection event.
This is what I thought.
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Do parents own their children?
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@Best.Korea
Do you not believe in controlling children for their own good?

Do you believe their personal so called rights, individual autonomy needs to trump what an adult knows better for them?

Example, if the child doesn't want to be fenced in to be able to go out of safe boundaries in which the child is ignorant of , which is ignorant  of what is safe and dangerous.

If a child doesn't want his or her hand held while crossing a busy street.

The issue you run into with trying to make everything else child danger proof is that it becomes astronomically factorial of all the different scenarios that could be perilous never conceptualized.

It's directly practical to just safeguard the child.
That's under constraints, rules, control, generally no bargains.

A responsible parent that takes ownership of the parental role does not allow the child to run off in the mall, into the parking lot, into town with this ridiculous unrealistic system of trying to make every element the child can come across child hazard proof .
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@zedvictor4
Medical professionals.
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@Reece101
Is consented sex consented pregnancy?
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@TheUnderdog
Then I don't know why you ask about non consenting people being harm. Non consenting people are forced to sexually subject.
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@cristo71
I never said anything that was or wasn't scientifically doable. I specifically said if we're talking about the holy scriptural kingdom of heaven, it's not possible.

In other words the holy scriptures don't teach what you said about those making into the Kingdom of heaven mentioned in the scriptures being sworn to secrecy.

On a serendipitous or fortuitous note, this is also comes to mind below.

The scriptures even teaches against making a swear or being sworn to anything by heaven .

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@TheUnderdog
You asked how does a sexuality harm non consenting people.

Don't we agree that non consensual sexuality is harmful?
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Biden unveils gay police for pride month
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@FLRW
Suicide from harassment alone.
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@FLRW
Apparently Biden'ers do .
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Why is child porn illegal?
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@Best.Korea
Do you mean from an accepting pedophilia position, why would it be illegal?
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@cristo71
You know a lot of things today scientifically doable were looked at as impossible 1000 years ago .
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@3RU7AL
@Best.Korea
If a mother didn't own what was in her body owning her body included, then the violation of rights would exist for that unborn person.

If you're going to be about rights, where and when does it start for a person?

You believe in a trading agreement you can't pinpoint where even the child signed onto. How can you do so with unborn baby's rights?
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@cristo71
If we're talking about the holy scriptural kingdom of heaven, it's not possible.
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@3RU7AL
Really straightforward.

The human population is stunted or in compromise each abortion and every manipulated birth controlled sexual action basically.

This also includes individual lifestyle choices pertaining to health and well being.
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@TheUnderdog
"How does homosexuality harm other non consenting people to a significant extent?"

How does it harm non consenting  people or the non consenting  population?

To a significant extent. I take it that you already agree that it harms to a lesser extent.

Well to the non consenting  which includes infants, children, young people, middle aged and even beyond over to those in the penitentiary prisons is pretty much a significant extent.

Interesting unexpected question.


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A man that hits a woman. It can be ok.
Not only there's a regular instance where it's ok, women that are opposed to be hit by men, for instance like in the face, actually are for being hit on the lips and cheeks.
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@TheUnderdog
Homosexuality does harm the population as abortion.
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@Moozer325
No matter how high they supposedly went up into the heavens, they never made it to the kingdom of heaven. But it was a great attempt.
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@cristo71
No matter how high they supposedly went up into the heavens, they never made it to the kingdom of heaven. But it was a great attempt.
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@Reece101
I don't take a position here.

But to add substance to the topic, consented sex is consented pregnancy. Non consented sex is not.
Hope you get it.
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@Moozer325
To me yes.
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@TheUnderdog
You're in a conflicted position supporting homosexuality while not being for abortion.
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@Reece101
I don't take a position on that. So I'm not giving a yes or no. That's not even on topic.
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@Moozer325
That's a new one.
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@Best.Korea
You can make a case that it was about debunking that heaven .
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@Greyparrot
Right on.
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@Reece101
Oh killing the babies instead of the rapist, right.

I'm glad I wasn't killed because my father forced my mother.
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@TheUnderdog
You say you know but you never know.

Just like your views and positions in the dark today may see the light tomorrow against abortion/same sex marriage and transgenderism.
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@Best.Korea
So do you or don't believe parents go into a trading bartering bargaining compromise with children like an agreement?
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@WyIted
Watch this:

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@Best.Korea
So you believe parents go into a trading bartering bargaining compromise with children like an agreement.

Let me ask, when is this agreement initiated and executed ,when the child can sign on the dotted line?

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@Best.Korea
So you believe parents go into a trading bartering bargaining compromise with children like an agreement.

Let me ask, when is this agreement initiated and executed ,when the child can sign on the dotted line?
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@Best.Korea
@WyIted
So we take ownership of children.

We own the responsibility.
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@Best.Korea
Yup you can choose to be a slave .
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@Reece101
Apparently consent is important in sexual matters.
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The dollar bill is yo massa.
Basically the 9-5 wage labor industry is a system in which some cases occupies the lives of individuals in the overtime sector.

Taking more control of individual lives mandating work as without this obligation, you cannot fulfill your obligation to the monetary prison system that enables you to live.

That's why it's called "work for a living". You have to work, be obligated , enslaved to work to live.

If you don't work, you don't eat as the biblical scripture teaches. If you don't work, you don't live.

So you are obligated to work to live. That's all slavery is in nature. Obligation. You have debt slavery, monetary enslavement and slave labor.

Now there are those that have apparently broken out of this prison in route to the wilderness. 

They too have to still work to eat. They have managed to escape the monetary prison. But their obligations to utilize resources more so than back when they first started a 9 to 5 is the reality.

Basically in a nutshell how the 9 to 5 is modern day slavery.

Common objections :

I can just quit a 9 to 5 job.

How am I enslaved to it?

There's no penalty or consequence for refusing to work.

I have the "freedom" to refuse to work.

What about when the time comes to get off work, quitting time as they say?

How about vacation, holiday time and "requested" time off?

How about a leave of absence or calling off?

Aren't I free then?

Don't I have freedom period?

Nobody owns me.

Maybe uncommon objections:


Who is my master?

What is my master?

A slave is in chains and shackles.

I'm not a prisoner.


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Was it really about debunking God's kingdom of heaven?
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