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@RationalMadman
Are you forgiving some, not others maintaining the anger?
If not that, what continues the anger ?
Couldn't that residual anger undo the forgiving?
Couldn't that forgiving power that enables you to let go, be free of past hurt, dissolving the anger from those things spread to everything else?
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@TheUnderdog
You know people with healthcare, it's the doctor's prescriptions that are messing them more than without bringing in other complications killing them with all these pharmaceuticals?
It's more to it than just having a standard doctor's visit.
It's more to it than just having a standard doctor's visit.
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@Double_R
"And whose story is that?"
The jury that voted the not guilty verdict.
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@Double_R
God bless him. That's payment for all the "whites" that got off that evidently were guilty of lynchings.
Either that or Mr. Simpson was actually innocent.
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@zedvictor4
"But what you choose to conclude, is based upon your whims and need for personal gratification.
Same applies to me of course."
Just to simplify your point.
Are you basically saying do what you want to do?
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@zedvictor4
"The individual pregnant woman."
The individual pregnant woman that chose abortion, you support that decision, so you indeed supported the choice of abortion which makes a pro abortion stance .
You can be indirect in all your language. The bottomline will stick out.
You support the choice of the woman choosing what?
Whatever her choice is right .
So you're pro all of it which would include abortion.
Thank you.
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@JoeBob
Correction on the bible subject. Those that believe in God of the scripture do believe in slavery.
Why ?
Those that believe in being a slave of Christ. So the consistency works where I'm actually not cherry picking.
Gotta read up on the scripture comrade.
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@JoeBob
I'll put it like this. I'm not going to speak of Santa Claus bringing toys in speaking to grown folks. It won't be a part of my vocabulary repertoire.
Least not in a customary sense like saying "God bless you".
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@ebuc
Even that was too weak so he was found not guilty.
Those that wanted him to be the perpetuator don't care about what actually happened but just what it looks like.
You know I don't know if anybody is guilty or not without testing the evidence myself. Otherwise I'm just taking the word of media .
That's all the public is doing. The part of the public that's not at that crime scene, not analyzing the physical evidence for themselves and certainly not among those in a courtroom.
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@RationalMadman
So you think you have to have anger to be strict, stern, assertive, disciplinary, authoritative,firm, defensive, a leader, to have thick skin, be outspoken, convicting, moderately easygoing, moderately resistant, moderately tolerable,etc.
Do you think drill instructors are angry in boot camp?
Just because they amplify their voices, give commands, push you hard.
If this is your thought process, you haven't learned what life is without anger in the correct manner.
People that still hang on to anger trying to justify it can't see the actual reality. Believing that anger and complete peace co-exist.
It is true what they say about anger blinding you. That's why you say a lot of things you don't mean when you're angry. No peace, no clear thinking, can't see what you're doing, unaware of everything.
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@zedvictor4
You're pro right of the woman to choose what?
"So am I pro-abortion?
As in, do I unreservedly promote the procedure as a positive method of birth control.
No."
This is a contradiction. Whether you and others realize it. See abortion is soooo ugly that even you yourself can't really say you support it but people love to have freedom too. So it's this sort of dance around the issue.
But when you say "support the choice ", people are trying to be indirect.
Support the choice of what? Of what?
The complete reasoning to support any choice is tied to its result.
Supporting a choice for the sake of supporting a choice is circular. Supporting freedom for the sake of freedom is circular. It all depends on what is done with that choice and freedom to make the difference.
So when you say you're indifferent, that's exactly that. You have not taken a stance of reasoning that actually makes the difference when you're explaining it in terms of "I encourage the choice because you have a choice so encourage the choice, respect choice."
So and I'll say for what, for what?
For the choice and we're just going in a circle.
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@zedvictor4
That nutshell is too vague.
Tweak it to interact to mistreat one another based on physical criteria at least, maybe more criterions then that.
i.e. "police officer" accurately labeled "race" soldier mistreating a minority (p.o.w.)
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@zedvictor4
What I mean by the term is encounter, meeting.
That's why I said whether positive, good or negative, discuss basically your experience with coming across the police.
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@zedvictor4
We know based on the function and structure of our bodies.
This is how you know the function of anything.
You can accept that or ignore that and say ",I don't care".
In order for people to do whatever they want, they have to care more or have to not care about anything else but personal whim and self gratification.
This is how you know the function of anything.
You can accept that or ignore that and say ",I don't care".
In order for people to do whatever they want, they have to care more or have to not care about anything else but personal whim and self gratification.
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@TheUnderdog
Their are people that are not illegal aliens, citizens without healthcare or medical insurance.
This is not automatically indicative of heading towards a fatality.
Why are there immigration laws in the first place?
Is it for the welfare and security of others?
This is what this so called scholar , author , whoever the person was couldn't get about immigration policies.
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@RationalMadman
Anger is the opposite of peace so how is it going to bring you to peace?
You have to lose the anger first. In the absence of anger you have peace. You can only forgive when you have no anger, no resentment, certainly no hatred.
When you drop the anger, you can begin to forgive. When you finally rid of anger for good, you have complete peace.
It being an emotion doesn't make it by default justifiable to have . This is what perpetuates the hatred in society.
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@Double_R
Long story short , not guilty.
R.I.P. the "juice"
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@zedvictor4
For example , smoking tobacco, poor diet, drinking liquor, anal sex, oral sex, lack of proper physical exercise according to the human body, all not setup for, all misuses.
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@zedvictor4
You misinterpreted by what I mean by "run-in".
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@zedvictor4
If you know anything about transatlantic slavery, slaves on the plantation, segregation, jim Crow, redlining, legal policies that benefit one group hindering protection for another, that hindered group going to that other group for housing, employment, resources because they're the owners of all major corporations and have the power to abuse or maintain power only amongst their own to their own advantage, this is just observation and historical and present day record.
Much not need for me to talk about evolution but more so the way it is the way it works in a dominated world.
Now on the intellectual subject, yes, to dominate a people, rule them, subjugate them , control them, you have to be smarter than them, yes.
"Though discrimination and systemic racism, is far from just a "white" condition...Far from it in fact."
It's like I said:
or a more mitigated term so it's not to put a specific face on it ........"systemic racism".
This term is used more so by the public or in general to take light off one group or else it appears as an indictment.
But look not all "whites" are "white" supremacists. I think that is a fair statement.
Any "white" person that is able to be one is the starting criteria for candidacy.
Now this appears to be more fair as oppose to what pan Africanists believe and it doesn't point out a group in a sweeping generalization as the label "systemic racism" aids in that.
BUT.......stilll......whom has crafted this system....who is the head of it.....what power in it does it have....who is able to wield it....wield its power at the destruction, mistreatment , domination of who?
Combine a system with who owns the most what, you have the same situation now from 150 years back.
We've just transitioned from the masters and plantations slave workers to the CEOs and wage laborers.
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@Amber
I'll say the same thing.
You're pro choice of abortion when the option has been indeed selected for abortion.
Right.
There is no separation.
You supporting abortion would have meant you supported the choice for it.
There is no separation.
You supporting the choice of either abortion or life still means the support of abortion.
There is no separation.
You supporting the choice of both abortion and life still means the support of abortion.
There is no separation.
You supporting the choice of abortion is pro abortion.
There is no separation.
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@zedvictor4
You're pro choice of abortion when the option has been indeed selected for abortion.
Right.
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@FishChaser
What has happened to all the poor minus "blacks" that they need repair or reparations that they weren't responsible for themselves?
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@Best.Korea
Atheists believe in LUCIFER the god of this world.
Ya see yall, the atheists are religious folks.
You guys just gotta get more consistent. Get ya boy Matt Dillahunty with the program.
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@JoeBob
So is it not a contradiction as an atheist to say "God bless you"?
The atheists don't believe in blessings do they?
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@JoeBob
Give it some more thought. Come back in about 15-20 years.
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@ebuc
I don't believe the public accepts anybody else but the "Juice". They've settled on nailing him to the wall.
You know, bias of being the closest (spouse) to the victim.
I won't even mention anything about discrimination on physical appearances, being a man, being not of Caucasian persuasion, etc.
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The more "educated" you are, the dumber and less common sense you have.
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There is a scientific medical reality of the human sinuses. We sneeze for a reason.
After a sneeze , there's a phrase "God bless you".
An atheist that says this phrase after someone sneezes, is it a contradiction to that atheist's reality?
Not just this example but perhaps Christmas, Easter, the dollar bill.
Shifting gears .
Speaking of God , Christmas, onto Jews.
I believe or understand compensation has been made to them.
What are you thoughts on reparations for "black" folks?
Speaking of the minorities as they are called, how does the system of "white" supremacy affect you?
Does it benefit your life or hinder it?
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If you're "pro-choice", do you prefer to stay away from describing the position as pro abortion?
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Why or why not?
What good do you see or don't see living in land of North America?
If it is not great what would make it great?
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@RationalMadman
Preach , preach.
A total forgiving person, one that has no resentment, no grudges, no anger, has total peace.
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@IlDiavolo
I'm not sure about the letting get away part .
You can be forgiving with the punishment or retribution administered.
Unless you mean letting go, not holding on with a grudge or resentment.
Many people that can't forgive will hold resentment against others that will forgive , even the most heinous of things.
The most unspeakable things, if I have forgiveness for such a one, I will be vilified by those that actually believe in "good " people vs. "bad" people.
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@TheUnderdog
Yup...."white supremacy".
Now are all "whites" supremacists?
Anyone that is able to be one is the starting criteria for candidacy.
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@zedvictor4
"So does "white supremacy" imply "black inferiority"."
It doesn't imply it. It directly means that. Now another individual on this site tried to call it democracy but then tried to recant it. The individual got mixed up. But it's a phenomenon that has what if we know history, spawned the civil rights movement, NAACP, black panther party, freedom riders, rainbow coalition, million man march, national black caucus, black lives matter.
All these are a reaction to "white supremacy" or a more mitigated term so it's not to put a specific face on it ........"systemic racism".
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@zedvictor4
"I regularly make eye contact and talk to Police officers."
Ok so those are your "run-ins" comrade. They don't have to be negative.
I think I mentioned positive or negative. You said "Never had a "run in" with the Police."
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@ludofl3x
Abortion and cigarettes have their comparisons sure enough.
There are plenty of analogies to depict how the body is used in a fashion not setup for.
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@Double_R
"putting Mark Furman on the stand, bungling the handling of some of the evidence)"
How was the evidence bungled through the hands of this person?
Did the person fail to keep it intact?
Was it found inadmissible somehow through incorrect legal channels?
Was there plain just no evidence and the phone recording just sways those emotionally so in that there's no way this man could not do a pure fair lady wrong?
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What makes it harder or easier to forgive?
If you are an atheist, has what contributed to that on the part of God being more forgiving perhaps of people in your eyes that have done the most heinous crimes?
If you are an atheist, has what contributed to that on the part of God being more forgiving perhaps of people in your eyes that have done the most heinous crimes?
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@TheUnderdog
Shouldn't have sex. This whole thing is an issue from the misuse of the human body.
Abortion according to the body is misuse. Using sex trying to remove it's function is misuse according to the body.
Vasectomy is just another method indirect to abortion. Destroys the same pathway from each side of the reproductive spectrum.
Being against abortion but for vasectomy is conflicting.
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@zedvictor4
So you're the one in many that has never even made eye contact with a police officer.
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Did Mr. OJ Simpson truly do it?
Did the white bronco have higher ratings than any aired Superbowl?
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@zedvictor4
If you've lived a certain amount of time on this planet and you actually go out , travel about, they're about, you will eventually meet.
A traffic stop , some citation at least or roadside help.
Even a call for help is probable not going out in the world.
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@WyIted
From a secularist standpoint aiming to live, you always cooperate. What if they threaten your life?
As soon as you're captured, treat it as a life and death situation. You want to survive.
Hopefully you can prove later any injustice.
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@JoeBob
Both statements are interconnected and directed toward the same single idea as what you just mentioned about matter.
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The possibilities of us all being a hive mind or one consciousness.
The question why have I and you been given this single point of view?
Is there really any separate consciousness outside of it?
If you're thinking the same, are we a collected , interconnected entity of consciousness?
Do our dreams promote the illusion of individual minds by keeping the dreams unknown to one another?
Although there are common dreams.
I've wondered from time to time , why I have one point of view of this consciousness embodied. As I am born in this time but not earlier, not later and human, not a plant , root, rock, gas and or some other form or branch of or to energy.
Mysteries I suppose such as heaven and earth.
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Have you had good experiences, negative, a mixture of the two, one more than the other?
Do you advise to cooperate even among disorderly conduct and non professionalism?
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