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"But there are cases where there aren't warning signs to diagnose. You can't diagnose something no one saw. "

What was wrong with the healthcare professional or technology that something was missed?

A mother in healthy condition doesn't just go unhealthy without some kind of cause. So healthy mothers in and of themselves don't have an adverse risk with pregnancy. Whether it goes undetected or not or misdiagnosed is another subject .

Back to the question, a strong medical malpractice suit is coming down the pike if an acceptable explanation is not given for signs of a risk going unnoticed. Was it too early to tell? Are there not standard tests for a mother in proper condition? This is why there are ultrasounds , mammograms, medical family history, blood tests.

"A doctor can do everything right, and the patient dies. On a different day with a similar patient a doctor could make a mistake and they could be fine. If we had perfect knowledge of people's health and risk factors, we could make perfect decisions. But we do not have that."

There is a reason and cause for everything and or for all this. I'm just making the point that we know a healthy person does not have any unhealthy factors to cause adverse risks of themselves. I believe the original point from the other individual was that there are risks outside of a healthy individual which I didn't get. That's because healthy ones to themselves don't, so there's no risk across the board for every case as every case doesn't have that risk .

"All you seem to have done is confirm that I am right. Lots of women die as a result of pregnancy. "

I don't think I ever took that position that they don't. You didn't deny my statement of misdiagnosis, unknown diagnosis or against medical advice. My point again is a woman in proper condition. Saying that there could be a risk with her herself or going undetected obviously excludes the proper condition group of women as fact. We're really just talking passed each other. I mean it happens.

"So I'm not sure what your point is. "

I'm just making the point that we know a healthy person does not have any unhealthy factors to cause adverse risks of themselves.

"this is objectively not true. There has never been a pregnancy that was without risk. You cannot say there is no risk because it is not humanly possible to know everything about the woman's health, risk factors etc. Without being god, you cannot say that a pregnancy has no risk. "

A person that has had no complications in the pregnancy would of meant that there was no cause of complications. A person that is truly not at health risk for anything is not at it. Just straightforward as that.

You individuals that go on assuming that there is or will be is just what that is. If a person truly isn't, it isn't there.

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I failed to see the issue from this announcement.

What is supposed to be the so called problem here?