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Could it be that God does not do what man wants?
If God won't serve him, man will serve himself. Is that it?
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@Double_R
That default position is fallacious. To say nothing exists until proven is false. There are many things that exist, have existed long before proven to me.
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@Stephen
They're not meant to prove God. According to biblical scripture, God in the son said himself blessed are those who believe and have not seen.
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@IlDiavolo
Is the spirit of God a thing?
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@Best.Korea
Yes they do. Religious folks have nothing to do with proving anything. That's why it's called faith, not hard facts.
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@IlDiavolo
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@Best.Korea
How do you all feel about a man being over his wife?
Do you disagree about marriage vows from the wife to honor and obey?
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Why do you think people troll ?
Is it because you personally offended them on a sensitive subject?
Why do you think people ad hominem attack in a debate?
When you try to be peaceful, civil, mature and reason with them, that's when they troll harder.
Anyone experience that, chime in everybody, trolls, kids included.
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@Best.Korea
Sensitive subject huh. Can we all just interact without hostility in peace?
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@Sidewalker
"You said sexual orientation was achoice, I find that very interesting, it was not a choice for me, I don’t thinkyou realize what a curiosity you are."
Please quote exactly where I said " sexual orientation was achoice". Word for word , not paraphrased but in exact wording please.
"I wouldn’t know, does it havesomething to do with decorating, accessorizing, maybe flamboyance? "
Let's go over the definition of gay or gayness. At least when I use the terms. Maybe you use them differently. It's having the an attraction sexually between to males and or engaging in the act of sexual activity between the two. Having some affiliation with that.
So yes that is how it is acted out .
"I think I understand, you havehomosexual desires, but you choose to not act on them, and that is what makesit a choice for you, is that it?"
Do you actually want a serious dialogue or are you looking to just ad hominem attack?
I'm not here to attack anybody. Take no offense please.
The rest of what you had to say was getting personal. I understand if this subject is sensitive but let us not get personal.
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@zedvictor4
I expand it by asking folks what they mean when using terms that they decide to use being that's where words and definitions come from, people.
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@Stephen
Perhaps using the facilities of choice in spite of how they physically appear.
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@Best.Korea
You're not getting what I'm saying. If you do please summarize all I just said.
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@Best.Korea
Then part of homophobia or part of the reasons are rational because of the molestation factor. Do you follow ?
Do you agree that all gays are heterophobes?
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@zedvictor4
Why is a gay person a heterophobe?
What makes them that?
Lesbianism. "Ism" is usually a system of something. Are you referring to a working system, network of females having sexual desires and relationships in society?
I don't think I have any views on a system of it unless we're talking about its effect on society.
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@Stephen
Do you agree that all gays are heterophobes?
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@sadolite
Do you disagree with homosexuality or the agenda with it?
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@Sidewalker
"You chose your sexual orientation? If it was a choice then that means it could have gone either way, you chose to be heterosexual, but you could have chosen to be gay. If you are attracted to both genders, how did you make the decision, why did you choose to be straight? "
You missed what I just said. Let me go over it again word by word. You just quoted it and missed it.
"Well to some extent just about everyone would be homophobic because just about everyone thinks gayness is an act of choice."
Keywords there that should of stood out were "act of choice".
So how does someone ACT out gayness?
If someone chooses to act upon their desires is that not a choice?
This is why I said it is thought to be a choice to some extent. To some degree or portion of it is. I didn't say all of it.
I notice when we feel so strongly in opposition we so easily zoom pass all the details someone has put. Slow down, come to an understanding to all that has been communicated to you.
Again gayness or homosexuality is not just having the sexual attraction. It can be acted out as well which is the choice portion.
So by definition of homophobic meaning those that are think gayness is a choice, well they'd be correct in part or portion.
Just about everybody that knows this about gayness would have to fit this label based on the definition given for it.
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@Best.Korea
"If being gay is a choice, why would someone choose to be straight?"
One reason I can think of is a dual life to keep up a front. I understand this was happening a lot decades ago.
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@Best.Korea
No. I don't promote hate period.
The subject is regarding fear. I may fear something that doesn't necessarily have to warrant hate.
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@Sam_Flynn
How do you feel about your skin color?
Are you neutral towards it?
Did you ever have any pride about it?
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@FLRW
"People who are homephobic think gayness is a choice."
Well to some extent just about everyone would be homophobic because just about everyone thinks gayness is an act of choice.
Basic reason being is that being gay is not simply just attraction, it also involves acting out on it too.
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@Best.Korea
I don't see why it would demand a fear of non molesters. That's why I specifically mentioned molesters because there are or could be homosexuals that are molesters.
Being the way you defined homophobia, just about everyone in their apprehensive right mind against molestation is homophobic .
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What would you say as to the reasons why Martin Luther King Jr. has or gets a recognized national holiday and Malcolm X does not?
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@FLRW
This is interesting. Will you elaborate further for us?
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@Best.Korea
So it is therefore homophobic to be fearful of homosexual men child molesters that have caused a traumatic effect on a male child whom has grown up to act out in homosexual affairs, choosing to engage in it as in effect and response to coping with the traumatic experience .
The experience has disfigured them or scarred them, perhaps warped them into reenacting the behavior.
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@Sam_Flynn
Why were you against it?
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@zedvictor4
So in order for people to be clever they have to be stupid too to appeal to yin and yang. Is that right?
I see how yin and yang works with good and evil , male and female.
Never looked at stupidity along with intelligence in one instance.
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Do females add make up to their face because they're satisfied with their face pre-make-up or is it because they're not satisfied with the appearance of it?
This was inspired by another topic with an individual that raises a question and it should be thought about.
Any female individuals feel free to definitely come forth.
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@TheUnderdog
I guess you have to ask the scientist who says these things. Let them explain it to you
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@zedvictor4
I am not. That's why I asked to please explain it.
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@Best.Korea
Please review all this communication back and forth and let me know if you get it?
You made a good point on the neo-nazi subject.
"I don't think decorating your skin is a matter of not liking your skin color at all. My daughter in law has a sleeve, do you think she liked the color of her skin on one arm, but not the other? "
I can't say without actually knowing the person, speaking to the person and asking the person directly why they do this specifically, why they do that.
For me, if we're talking about clothing, clothing does not permanently change or physically alter my skin color. So if I'm a person that adores my skin color, this would be something that wouldn't bother me.
"Lots of people who love the color of their car get racing stripes, people who paint their house a favorite color will use a different color for trim, someone paints a painting that only puts their favorite color on a canvas is not much of a painter. Do you think women use makeup because they don't like their skin color? "
You're just proving the point in all your examples. Color is not added needlessly.
"I can't understand thinking about skin color in that way, I don't think women put bows in their hair because they don't like the color of their hair. I just think you have an unusual way of thinking about it."
It is true that I don't think in a box. Thinking conventionally, you limit yourself from going in depth of important intricate details that will be missed.
Again, I asked about changing the color of the skin. Covering it up versus actually changing it are two different things. Otherwise people that are proud of their skin color would be against wearing clothes.
Those that are called white supremacists know their supremacy is intact regardless of what clothes they wear. Many of them wore red sheets, white sheets, black night hawk sheets and robes.
It's when their skin is altered. That's why they'd be against so called race mixing. They know to keep their color intact because that's all it takes to function in a society, being seen in a society that will favor or privilege them based upon it. This is what I mean by thinking in depth at a deeper level.
If you haven't given much thought to something, you're not going to understand these things right away or they won't come to mind right away. Just slow down, stop, think about it, look at it from a different perspective than the conventional one.
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@Sidewalker
"I don't think decorating your skin is a matter of not liking your skin color at all. My daughter in law has a sleeve, do you think she liked the color of her skin on one arm, but not the other? "
I can't say without actually knowing the person, speaking to the person and asking the person directly why they do this specifically, why they do that.
For me, if we're talking about clothing, clothing does not permanently change or physically alter my skin color. So if I'm a person that adores my skin color, this would be something that wouldn't bother me.
"Lots of people who love the color of their car get racing stripes, people who paint their house a favorite color will use a different color for trim, someone paints a painting that only puts their favorite color on a canvas is not much of a painter. Do you think women use makeup because they don't like their skin color? "
You're just proving the point in all your examples. Color is not added needlessly.
"I can't understand thinking about skin color in that way, I don't think women put bows in their hair because they don't like the color of their hair. I just think you have an unusual way of thinking about it."
It is true that I don't think in a box. Thinking conventionally, you limit yourself from going in depth of important intricate details that will be missed.
Again, I asked about changing the color of the skin. Covering it up versus actually changing it are two different things. Otherwise people that are proud of their skin color would be against wearing clothes.
Those that are called white supremacists know their supremacy is intact regardless of what clothes they wear. Many of them wore red sheets, white sheets, black night hawk sheets and robes.
It's when their skin is altered. That's why they'd be against so called race mixing. They know to keep their color intact because that's all it takes to function in a society, being seen in a society that will favor or privilege them based upon it. This is what I mean by thinking in depth at a deeper level.
If you haven't given much thought to something, you're not going to understand these things right away or they won't come to mind right away. Just slow down, stop, think about it, look at it from a different perspective than the conventional one.
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@zedvictor4
Would you further elaborate your point on the relevance of yin and yang?
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@Sidewalker
If you like your skin color the way it is, would you add color to it?
If you like the color of your car, house or even a painting you painted, the colors you liked as is enough the way it was knowing that adding a color or more would change what you like, would you want another color or more added?
I can understand people being neutral on skin color so it makes the decision easy to alter it. Same way with hair.
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@blamonkey
They color their "white" skin as a sign of love for pure "white" skin, is that right?
By this example, just further solidifies that "racism" and or "white" supremacy doesn't make sense, has never made sense, never will make any sense.
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Are tattoos a response to a dislike of skin tone/color?
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@Double_R
I can see that learning, building vocabulary can be challenging. But it is possible to learn just like learning to use profanity.
Profanity does not make a voice any louder. What we have is cultural impact and influence and popularity.
Further more why have a useless large vocabulary?
Really some things to think on.
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@Double_R
Can a person express emotion without profanity?
Do you think if a person's vocabulary is large enough, would there still be any room or space for the use of profanity left?
Do you think if a person's vocabulary is large enough, would there still be any room or space for the use of profanity left?
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@n8nrgim
I agree there that profanity is not necessary but redundant in a vulgar fashion .
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@Double_R
What is the point in using profanity upon communicating with anybody whatsoever?
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@zedvictor4
I just want to make sure I understand you answer. The majority of the world is not overly sexualized but then you say the minority isn't either.
So the original answer you mean the entire world because it's neither the majority or minority.
"Would you agree that relative to ideological and cultural development, a proportion of the human race is sexually repressed?"
I couldn't say. I'm aware that people are active, others aren't for whatever reason.
That is a good question as to why anyone is embarrassed to be without clothing completely to be bare naked.
But no doubt that just about everywhere you look particularly in the north western hemisphere, sexual depiction is at the forefront in media, advertising, in how clothes are designed typically for women .
Fifty to sixty years ago, there was more modest apparel. Things were left more to the imagination. I saw in the news one of the cast members from an old sitcom from the fifties just passed on.
If I could ask her what she thought about 2024 compared to 1954 in what she wore then and the changes now, I'd be all ears .
This type of clothing where you can make out every curve, crevice, bust , where as with dresses that would extend out to not be so revealing, extraordinary contrast.
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@Double_R
I can understand the social effect , how it comes about, it's derivative so forth and so on.
But to sum it up what use would you say it has?
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@n8nrgim
Do you think with a well expanded vocabulary, a point can be stressed, adequately emphasized without using profane language?
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@zedvictor4
So by saying majority, does that make the minority overly sexualized?
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