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@FLRW
That's cool and all, but the man literally gave Ukraine advanced military technology, and the point of the remark he made was to illustrate the simple idea that yes, if Russia wants to commit an evil against Ukraine, now would be the time to do it with weak-ass Biden in charge.
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@oromagi
Then I think the issue in maintaining site freedom is with this, not with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, as evil as it is.
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@RationalMadman
Given how much some members openly despise Russia, I think they would've been banned already if Mike wanted to. Besides, it'd be a business suicide for Mike to ban anyone over such a thing. I know for sure I would leave the site if someone got banned for such a thing; I just have faith in Mike.
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@oromagi
Why post this in the main forum, though? I agree that Putin is a huge world evil for the invasion, but I don't see how reaching outside of the politics forum helps anything.
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@Dr.Franklin
Tf? It is strongly against American interests for Russia to expand their sphere of influence given their natural hostility to the US. Why would you ever take their side, even if you believe Russia has an argument for the territory?
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@FLRW
It's funny how he still lives rent-free in your head. From what I can tell, I don't think he's endorsing the invasion.
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@zedvictor4
No one should seek war. Be ready for it yes, but the offensive attack was not against us and therefore we do not have any reason to get involved beyond the sanctions Biden has announced.
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Honestly we better stay tf out of this. Sanctions are fine, but no arms deals or troops deployed.
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HOLY SHIT IT’S HAPPENING.
Russia has launched an invasion.
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PARTY POKÉMON
-Avia, a Lv. 55 Staraptor
-Sandy, a Lv. 55 Pachirisu
-Ira, a Lv. 44 Weavile
-Cassius, a Lv. 55 Dialga
-Waterfall, Lv. 44 Tentacruel
-Clint, a Lv. 47 Kadabra
PC BOX POKÉMON
-Duckworth, a Lv. 5 Psyduck
-Swoop, a Lv. 8 Zubat
-Bud, a Lv. 10 Budew
-Trouble, a Lv. 14 Cleffa
-Magnitude, a Lv. 5 Geodude
-Wisp, a Lv. 19 Gastly
-Steven, a Lv. 17 Meditite
-Spottie, a Lv. 21 Girafarig
-Turbo, a Lv. 21 Shellos
-Whoop, a Lv. 22 Wooper
-Maestro, a Lv. 17 Kricketune
-Missy, a Lv. 29 Mr. Mime
-Redflame, a Lv. 25 Ponyta
-Karpi, a Lv. 10 Magikarp
-Sharp, a Lv. 29 Skuntank
-Lionheart, a Lv. 28 Shinx
-Wurmi, a Lv. 13 Wurmple
-Nate, a Lv. 32 Snover
-Ring, a Lv. 34 Chingling
-Chonk II, a Lv. 16 Bibarel
-Kathy, a Lv. 41 Chatot
-Tyler, a Lv. 26 Tentacool
-Pyrite, a Lv. 46 Steelix
GRAVEYEARD POKÉMON
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@ComputerNerd
I honestly haven’t touched the game since the last update I gave. I’ve been playing other games.
I’ll get back to it at some point. Maybe today, maybe not.
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Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died
Can’t get a good link to the image, sorry.
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@3RU7AL
I was asking Grey for the link to evidence it was the single protester. As far as sources for my own arguments go, I did provide some if that’s what you’re referring to.
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@Vader
Yeah you’re struggling here. I’ll join
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@Greyparrot
here was literally 1 person with a swasitka early on and a poster calling Trudeau a Nazi, which the truckers removed, and now you have the power of the government multiplying 1 by the thousands of other Canadian truckers saying all the truckers stand for swastikas.
Got a link?
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@oromagi
A waive round button could be ok for the convenience of not having to type 'waive', so it depends on whether or not people find it that much of a problem that they have to type 'waive'.
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@RationalMadman
I don't like the superficial pretending-to-care activity either, but punishing potential legitimate users doesn't help turning that superficial activity into real activity. I seek to encourage these users to care, not to force them out because they don't immediately care.
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@Greyparrot
I am not surprised by the blatant government blackmail at all.
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@oromagi
Unacceptable views is what he said.
They mean the same thing here. Regardless, it's irrelevant since once you have closed yourself off and seek to remove them for protesting peacefully (more on this in a moment), you are morphing yourself into a dictator.
That's false. An strong majority has supported Trudeau's vaccine mandates for truckers since October.
Did I say majority? No. I said people. That can mean any number of them, but it's clear that despite being in the minority opinion, they make up a sizeable chunk still. 20-30% isn't to be looked over.
Canadian truckers hate these fascists pretending to be offended on their behalf.
None of your surveys mention how many Canadian truckers disapprove of these protests, nor does it matter regardless because if you are going to argue against the Freedom Convoy because most are against it you fall victim to Appeal to the Majority Fallacy.
As even Amnesty International and the American Civil Liberties Union state plainly, holding the economy hostage with barricades is an act of violence, not free speech.
The ALCU and co. can cry foul all they want. Music to my ears. A barricade is not a physical attack; it's just dumb to equate it to violence.
These fascists have attacked Christian charities, set fire to large residential buildings, threatened and intimidated Muslims, Asians, first peoples, etc.
I would argue this is the fringe of the truckers. Some viral videos of a small amount of individuals does not condemn the whole group, this is Guilt by Association Fallacy.
Also, I can specify that at the very least the claims of arson are exaggerated. Two men (of unknown affiliation up to this point, I might add) were shown attempting arson in one building, and somehow according to you they have "set fire to large residential buildings".
Unlike Freedom Convoy, BLM's George Floyd protests in Canada were entirely peaceful. Every act of violence done during Canadian George Floyd protests was perpetrated by right wing. Wikipedia reports of George Floyd protests, "Some businesses and banks downtown {Ottowa} boarded up windows in advance of the march, although there were no reports of damage"
This is a fair point and I will drop it.
By contrast with the Floyd protests, Ottawa residents have already filed suit against the Freedom Convoy documenting $4.8m in property damage.
This is completely false. The lawsuit is a $9.8M one, with the $4.8M you mention being for "private nuisance" (lmao), and another $5M for "punitive damage", which by definition is meant to exceed any "wrongdoing" to enact punishment. I'm not sure where you are getting "property damage" from, which is also why I still say these protests are peaceful despite some idiots not being peaceful.
Beliefs seems like a lofty word for Christian 5G conspiracy theories, QAnon, and the Nordic Resistance movement. Trudeau called them fringe views, which seems fair considering that what they really are lies that mentally ill people holler to get attention.
"Beliefs" can also mean "anti-mandate", which is the common denominator of the protest. Any other views some (a minority, I would argue) of the protesters may have is irrelevant, and pointing them out is an Ad Hominem meant to be a deflection. Having frustrations with a vaccine mandate is hardly "hollering to get attention" and the whole "mentally ill people" part doesn't help any thought provoking discussion either.
so abortion, drugs, suicide, smallpox, polio- totally unregulated by the govt. Let
Abortion takes a human life. Drugs cause people to lose control of themselves and harm others. Suicide is self-harm and a result of mental health issues. As for smallpox and polio, neither vaccines are currently mandated by the US in an individual's private life and opposing the current laws regarding those vaccines is not the same as opposing a mandate of a vaccine of a weak disease in a individual's private life.
So let's say every other army in the world immunizes its forces against measles, smallpox, polio, COVID, etc while the US Army follows your extremism and does not enforce or regulate immunization. Countless battles tell us that as soon as our forces start encountering a large immunized force, our army is going to be swept by a disarming disabling wave of illness.
The government may do as they please when it is the military, which they own. Not to mention most soldiers (and people in general) are going to have smallpox and measles vaccines because those diseases are significantly more dangerous than the coronavirus.
I understand why Putin wants this and so he pumps tens of millions into COVID disinformation. I don't know why we would want this outcome.
LMAO at the the idea of my opinions on COVID being "PuTIN'S mISiNfORMaTioN MeaNT tO deSTRoY tHe US!" instead of a legitimate argument that should be discussed without being overconfidently written off. This is just a deflection.
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@RationalMadman
I disagree. People see all the forfeits and don’t think much of the site. One sure fire way for people to not care is seeing other people not caring.
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US truckers are planning one as well. https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/us-truckers-organize-stateside-convoys-set-to-protest-covid-19/
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Trudeau says these people have unacceptable beliefs. This is why he shut down the protests. He made a policy people didn’t like, and they took to protesting it, as is their right. Aside from one-off incidents, these protests have been peaceful. Unlike the BLM protests (which Trudeau endorsed), businesses aren’t being boarded up here either.
The fact that people are being arrested over a peaceful demonstration, combined with the infamous quote from Trudeau where he will not even consider their beliefs, tells me that he is a tyrant attempting to control his people.
No government should mandate an individual’s ability to impact their own health. Period. I don’t care what it is, as long as others still have the ability to protect themselves, an individual is not and should not be forced to let others control their health.
The fact that people are being arrested over a peaceful demonstration, combined with the infamous quote from Trudeau where he will not even consider their beliefs, tells me that he is a tyrant attempting to control his people.
No government should mandate an individual’s ability to impact their own health. Period. I don’t care what it is, as long as others still have the ability to protect themselves, an individual is not and should not be forced to let others control their health.
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@DebateArt.com
How about more rewards for users who stick around to participate in more debates and more rewards for those who do well in them?
I’m thinking stuff like username flairs, or unlocking custom profile page options.
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@DebateArt.com
- We definitely need to have some form of discouragement for forfeits
I’m not sure this would help. If people are forfeiting rounds it means something came up so they don’t have the time (in which losing the debate and the corresponding elo is a penalty enough) or it means that they outright don’t care about the debate. If it’s the latter, than they’re also not going to care about any penalty assigned to them, because these people tend not to stick around for long anyways.
I think the most important question here is: Why do some users create an account only to stop caring about it and how can we get more users to stay?
- We need more strict separation between rated and "normal" debates
Sure. Unrated debates should probably be more tailor-made for casual debates. I don’t know how this would be done, but I like the idea here.
- We need a feature to "surrender"
Good feature idea.
- We need to handle situations when participants get banned
Yeah. We can’t just void debates outright and giving a free win to someone because the other user got banned isn’t great either. I will specify that I don’t think anything needs to be done if a user is banned in the middle of an unrated debate.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
A side note, I do have a policy for concessions: They are allowed, but they do not end the game.
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@Vader
Out for now, but ping me if you are having trouble finding players, or need a replacement. Then I'll join.
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Current Mafia:
None
Signups:
Supa - Kanye West's Discography Mafia OR Attack on Titan Mafia
In the Hopper:
Mharman - NFL Mafia
On Hold:
Earth - Internet Culture Mafia
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@whiteflame
@oromagi
@Discipulus_Didicit
@badger
@Incel-chud
Endgame
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Town wins!!!
AFFILIATIONS
Town:
Whiteflame - Vanilla
Badger - 1x Gunsmith
Disc- 3x Roleblocker
Greyparrot - Vanilla
Pie - Vanilla
Mikal - Vanilla
Mafia:
Supa - Goon
Earth - Ninja
MOD REVIEW
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I felt this game sucked. Yeah, the inactivity was bad, but I'm not going to make a scapegoat out of it. At the end of the of the day, I believe there would've been more activity if I made a better setup that was more fun to play.
My thought was to create a cool randomized experience. The problem is, having every role is incredibly bastard. So I attempted to balance the bastardization by having pools and probabilities, but that didn't work. One cannot balance bastard design. One must remove bastard design outright in order to make a good game. In my attempt to do so, I only made things worse. The possibility of having a power role only for said role to be useless (like Earth's ninja, since there was no tracker or watcher in the game) is not fun. It's just annoying.
Regardless, there still is hope for a cool game to be made out of this concept. But only by embracing the natural bastard design, and making the game an open setup bastard game. Seriously. I think this game would've been more fun for all if everyone was just goofing off knowing they were in a bastard game. Just imagine a "Chaotic RNG Mafia" game in which literally anything is possible. It doesn't get any more gloriously bastard than that. Someone should put Disc up to it.
As much as it sounds like I'm beating myself up about this game, I'm really not. I'm only starting to become a better mod and this setup was made before I really desired to be one. Plus, no one else had a game ready and there was no one in the hopper on the sign-ups thread. So I just rolled with it. The be honest, I still see improvements in my own modding here. I was more active and able to update vote counts and confirm night actions, I had a better policies, and I didn't do anything stupid. All that was missing was a good setup, and I already have a good one made with the help of Lunatic. It is a 12 player game based on the NFL. I look forward to it.
SHOUTOUTS
I don't really like MVP awards anymore because they almost always seem to cause some stupid argument. So I'll just give shoutout to players for plays they made that I liked.
Pie: This man is on a tear right now. Between solving the game in Anime Waifus Mafia, blending in effectively in Ozark Mafia, and calling both scum players DP1 in this game, I think he is at least the best town player on the site right now. Congrats on your intellectual pop-off, Pie.
Badger: Giving Greyparrot the gun was completely based. The amount of trust this man had for one of the boys to send him that gun when he was scumread by Greyparrot is pretty neat and I nominate it for bro moment of the year.
Disc: Read Supa quickly, and used his PR to end the game. It was kind of simple, but a clean play nonetheless.
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Supa has been shot! They were guilty! The game is over!
Stop posting. Endgame up soon.
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Welcome to DP2!
Lynched last DP:
Earth - Mafia Ninja
Died in the night:
No one
Remaining players:
1. Whiteflame
2. Disc
3. Supadudz
4. Oromagi
5. Mikal (still looking for a replacement)
6. Pie
7. Badger
8. Greyparrot
With 8 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch. The DP ends on February 20, @ 9:00 PM EST.
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Final Vote Count
Earth (5/5) - Pie, Supa, Oromagi, Badger, Whiteflame
Whiteflame (2/5) - Disc, Earth
Badger (1/5) - Greyparrot
Earth was lynched! They were guilty! Submit night actions!
The DP is over. Stop posting.
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Current Vote Count
Whiteflame (3/5) - Disc, Earth, Badger
Mikal (2/5) - Whiteflame, Oromagi
Earth (1/5) - Pie
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Current Vote Count
Whiteflame (3/5) - Disc, Earth, Badger
Mikal (2/5) - Whiteflame, Oromagi
Disc (1/5) - Pie
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Current Vote Count
Disciplus (2/5) - Pie, Badger
Mikal (2/5) - Whiteflame, Oromagi
Whiteflame (2/5) - Disciplus, Earth
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Current Vote Count
Disciplus (3/5) - Pie, Badger, Oromagi
Mikal (1/5) - Whiteflame
Whiteflame (1/5) - Disciplus
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@Vader
IF they draft better o linemen they’ll be back next year
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ATTENTION: Wylted/Incel-Chud has been replaced by Disciplus_Didicit
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