Mharman

*Mikal, not mills

Yeah I was being too hasty to let you off the hook. Mills is right, we need your abilities.

Ok.

Wait, do you need me to pressure for abilities as well? I can real quick. I just wanted to pivot to Airmax.

That may not be enough for some but given the amount of time left it’s enough for me for now.

Everyone- Let’s pivot to pressuring Airmax since we need a full claim from him as well.

I don’t think you are but if that’s the case it’s all the more reason to full claim.

Bengals going to the Super Bowl despite NFL overtime bullshit benefitting the Chiefs again. 

Hooray!

Honestly disregard this thread the other one is better

You are at L2. Please full claim.

Oh whoops missed Whiteflame my bad

So yeah add a vote on earth. Be ready to pivot to Airmax or Greyparrot 

We may not get enough to lynch either but as long as we at least get the info out of them it’s a W in my book.

If we can’t get a lynch on either of them we  are forced to go for Grey which I am fine with

I’m bored so I’m putting my reads on a scale. Not including myself because it’s pretty obvious I would townread myself and not including Greyparrot because I think he really is a Survivor.

Most Town

ComputerNerd

Disc

Mikal

Whiteflame

Pie

Sui

Supa (could swap with Badger)

Badger

Earth (jumps up and keeps Airmax down with believable claim)

Airmax (jumps up and sends Earth further down with believable claim)

Most Scum

He isn’t a top priority right now for me anyways, just a possibility down the road I think could be true.

I just would like ComputerNerd to tell us if he’s vigilante or not. If he is, I think he should shoot Grey 100%.

Maybe. My thing is that his logic to me seems so unreasonable and his ideas so unrealistic that I suspect him. If I’m wrong or if his logic is better than I thought, he can debunk me at any time if he feels compelled to do so. I won’t be afraid to admit being wrong on him if I get a compelling argument. But for now, I’m just suspicious of him.

If you could full claim that may be very helpful

Regardless I think we need to pressure Airmax for a full claim as well.

yeah I know I was typing post #258 while you said that

Forgot to add this at the end of last post: 

In conclusion, I 100% agree if we don’t get a claim from Earth, they’re out lynch.

I think there is a town possibility for Earth there is a reverse theme split, but no claim here is uncooperative and therefore inherently scummy.

I suppose we can wait for DP2 to go for Grey if ComputerNerd isn’t a vigilante. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that a lynch on Earth or Airmax right now is more important than getting Grey out. The early theme knowledge is just too valuable.

Also, regarding theme, Navarros Cartel and Associates vs. Byrdes and Everyone Else can make sense too.

What’s interesting is that Airmax’s and Earth’s characters would be opposite any way you slice it.

Helen is a lawyer for the Navarros, but she helps Marty Byrde a lot, so she could be on the mafia if the Navarros are the scum team or if the Byrdes are the scum team. In both of those theme splits, Jacob Snell is likely town. If it is a main protagonists vs. main antagonists split, Jacob Snell is likely mafia, and Helen, with her somewhat positive association with Marty is likely town as well.

So honestly if we get a believable town role claim from Earth, we may want to pressure Airmax for a full claim.

If nothing comes up we can go back and lynch Greyparrot, but as I stated when listing the pros and cons of lynching Greyparrot, it does concede some knowledge in the early game, and that knowledge seems to be theme split knowledge. While I want to get rid of Grey for the chaos he can cause, I think the knowledge we get from lynching Airmax or Earth is better. A lynch on Greyparrot gives little information on theme since Charlotte is a character, who despite helping her family sometimes, seems to want to get out of her family’s crime business. The Charlotte = survivor idea can make sense in any of the proposed theme splits, so his flip will tell us little.

Personally, I hope ComputerNerd is a vigilante so that we can have him shoot Grey to get him out of the game, and then we can lynch Airmax or Earth.

Oh, and why.

So the question is: What role are you and why?

While Jacob Snell is someone who has opposed Marty Byrde, the main character (making this claim troubling), I can see the idea of a reverse theme split. From what I’ve read about the show, Marty and his family cause a lot of chaos in what was previously a balanced organized crime space, and the idea of The Byrdes vs. Everyone Else isn’t all that complicated, it takes only slight theme knowledge that can be researched easily.

So I think it may be best to hold off on lynching Earth for now depending on what answer we get from Earth on this question:

Earth, what role are you?

On second thought, if a are a vigilante, you should tell us so that we can determine who you should shoot (if it is decided you should use it at all).

Yes. Post #240 for more details. I was just trying to get you to be active, a character claim was the last thing I wanted from you, and a power role claim was even worse.

Oh well. What has happened had happened. Just do what you can and cross your fingers you get lucky in the night.

Ok this is a noob mistake that I won’t hold against you too much but if you have a power role as town, keep it secret for some time. Mafia is 100% going to kill you in the next night phase (NP1) now, likely nullifying whatever power role you have.

 

Unless your power role passively kills mafia, then you want to bait mafia.

As for the current situation: If you are a vigilante, I would say don’t use it, if you are a bomb, don’t reveal that. If you are what I think you are, use it even though you’re probably dead anyways.

You gathered something different about Helen than I did from Wikipedia?

Oh geez. If there is a doctor or some protective role PLEASE PROTECT COMPUTERNERD TONIGHT.

Good for now. Seems to be a huge advisor to Marty, this Helen

Ask Lunatic if you feel compelled to do so.

Also looking at the show on Wikipedia, I think we'll see at least some of these guys, so it may be in our interest to preemptively slot them into an affiliation:

Marty Byrde (likely town)

Wendy Byrdy

Ruth Langmore

Jonah Byrde (probably vanilla town if present)

Camino Del Rio

Jacob Snell (likely mafia)

Darlene Snell (likely mafia)

Roy Petty (power role?)

And don't think I forgot about you. You will be pressured DP2 if you don't post.

Fair. Do you think you could get off of Grey real quick just to add pressure to Earth and then get back on Grey once we get answers from them?

Oh, and then lynch someone if we get an obvious scum slip from them. If we don't, Grey is the best option.

Priorities for me are:

1. Pressure Earth

2. Pressure Earth more (if needed)

3. Pressure Airmax

4. Lynch (Earth or Airmax if we get a scum slip, Grey if we don't)

Guys we still have all of Sunday. No need to lock in until later in Sunday. I think we just need to quickly pressure some players.

Then either way (mafioso or not giving a fuck) he is being a detriment to town and we should pressure him, too. If you want a game with other active players, get rid of the inactives or pressure them into activity.