Mharman

If Earth reveals abilities and is believable, can we switch to Greyparrot? I don’t think we can, but I want to float the question out there.

Or her idk

Earth is at L3. Mikal, Pie, ComputerNerd, and I are all on him.

And I apologize if it seems I am trying to take over. I just want to avoid a no-lynch this DP

Would like to use DP2 to further analyze DP1 and NP1 and get rid of Greyparrot.

You have 30 minutes to reveal abilities. Reveal or get lynched.

Not that I see 

Actually I’ll extend until 8:30 before I stating pinging people again 

Because let’s be honest: Earth’s defense was shoddy. And we don’t have the time to switch o Greyparrot.

I say at 8:00 ET we start pushing for the outright lynch on Earth. He has about 15 minutes reveal abilities. 

Any objections?

Again, we will likely need to get rid of Greyparrot DP2

Possibly. But we still only have 5 on him. We need more if we need to lynch. I am down for an Earth lynch but we will like need to get rid of Greyparrot DP2.

Sorry about the hasty unvote. Was just trying to be fast given the small amount of time.

*Mikal, not mills

Yeah I was being too hasty to let you off the hook. Mills is right, we need your abilities.

Ok.

Wait, do you need me to pressure for abilities as well? I can real quick. I just wanted to pivot to Airmax.

That may not be enough for some but given the amount of time left it’s enough for me for now.

Everyone- Let’s pivot to pressuring Airmax since we need a full claim from him as well.

I don’t think you are but if that’s the case it’s all the more reason to full claim.

Bengals going to the Super Bowl despite NFL overtime bullshit benefitting the Chiefs again. 

Hooray!

Honestly disregard this thread the other one is better

You are at L2. Please full claim.

Oh whoops missed Whiteflame my bad

So yeah add a vote on earth. Be ready to pivot to Airmax or Greyparrot 

We may not get enough to lynch either but as long as we at least get the info out of them it’s a W in my book.

If we can’t get a lynch on either of them we  are forced to go for Grey which I am fine with

I’m bored so I’m putting my reads on a scale. Not including myself because it’s pretty obvious I would townread myself and not including Greyparrot because I think he really is a Survivor.

Most Town

ComputerNerd

Disc

Mikal

Whiteflame

Pie

Sui

Supa (could swap with Badger)

Badger

Earth (jumps up and keeps Airmax down with believable claim)

Airmax (jumps up and sends Earth further down with believable claim)

Most Scum

He isn’t a top priority right now for me anyways, just a possibility down the road I think could be true.

I just would like ComputerNerd to tell us if he’s vigilante or not. If he is, I think he should shoot Grey 100%.

Maybe. My thing is that his logic to me seems so unreasonable and his ideas so unrealistic that I suspect him. If I’m wrong or if his logic is better than I thought, he can debunk me at any time if he feels compelled to do so. I won’t be afraid to admit being wrong on him if I get a compelling argument. But for now, I’m just suspicious of him.

If you could full claim that may be very helpful

Regardless I think we need to pressure Airmax for a full claim as well.

yeah I know I was typing post #258 while you said that

Forgot to add this at the end of last post: 

In conclusion, I 100% agree if we don’t get a claim from Earth, they’re out lynch.

I think there is a town possibility for Earth there is a reverse theme split, but no claim here is uncooperative and therefore inherently scummy.

I suppose we can wait for DP2 to go for Grey if ComputerNerd isn’t a vigilante. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that a lynch on Earth or Airmax right now is more important than getting Grey out. The early theme knowledge is just too valuable.

Also, regarding theme, Navarros Cartel and Associates vs. Byrdes and Everyone Else can make sense too.

What’s interesting is that Airmax’s and Earth’s characters would be opposite any way you slice it.

Helen is a lawyer for the Navarros, but she helps Marty Byrde a lot, so she could be on the mafia if the Navarros are the scum team or if the Byrdes are the scum team. In both of those theme splits, Jacob Snell is likely town. If it is a main protagonists vs. main antagonists split, Jacob Snell is likely mafia, and Helen, with her somewhat positive association with Marty is likely town as well.

So honestly if we get a believable town role claim from Earth, we may want to pressure Airmax for a full claim.

If nothing comes up we can go back and lynch Greyparrot, but as I stated when listing the pros and cons of lynching Greyparrot, it does concede some knowledge in the early game, and that knowledge seems to be theme split knowledge. While I want to get rid of Grey for the chaos he can cause, I think the knowledge we get from lynching Airmax or Earth is better. A lynch on Greyparrot gives little information on theme since Charlotte is a character, who despite helping her family sometimes, seems to want to get out of her family’s crime business. The Charlotte = survivor idea can make sense in any of the proposed theme splits, so his flip will tell us little.

Personally, I hope ComputerNerd is a vigilante so that we can have him shoot Grey to get him out of the game, and then we can lynch Airmax or Earth.

Oh, and why.

So the question is: What role are you and why?

While Jacob Snell is someone who has opposed Marty Byrde, the main character (making this claim troubling), I can see the idea of a reverse theme split. From what I’ve read about the show, Marty and his family cause a lot of chaos in what was previously a balanced organized crime space, and the idea of The Byrdes vs. Everyone Else isn’t all that complicated, it takes only slight theme knowledge that can be researched easily.

So I think it may be best to hold off on lynching Earth for now depending on what answer we get from Earth on this question:

Earth, what role are you?

On second thought, if a are a vigilante, you should tell us so that we can determine who you should shoot (if it is decided you should use it at all).