Mharman

Character claim?

My hyper-posting wasn't out of pressure I felt. It was out of boredom. A game with few active players at the time does little to keep me engaged, so I made my own engagement.

So my strongest town read is Disc. Coming up with the idea to gender claim was honestly a great idea, and I can’t see how mafia can abuse it (not with this theme), no matter how much paranoia I can develop at times. Aside from that he has been consistent in just about everything he posts.

I’ve posted about this before, but I believe Grey is a Survivor. Too risky to try as mafia. Period.

ComputerNerd is a tossup. No activity.

Airmax might be mafia given the lurking Supa pointed out, but there isn’t much else.

The more I think about it, the less I think there is hard evidence on Sui being scum. He contributed to the gender claim idea, claiming male in post #84. As for his theme knowledge, I have seen theme knowledge related contributions from him in Posts #64 and #112. While it isn’t much, he hasn’t posted much in this game in general. Unlike Airmax, there hasn’t been any lurking, at least not that I see.

Mikal has a lot of logic I agree with. Pretty much everything he has said has made a lot of sense to me. He is hesitant to condemn Sui but doesn’t outright defend him, and his presentation of Earth as a better push target also makes way more sense. While agreeing with me isn’t a complete town read, it certainly isn’t a scum read either; considering that some of those statements of his go against the grain of what looks like knee jerk reactions from other players, I especially don’t think he is buddying anyone. I lean town on him.

I honestly can’t read Pie right now, not based on any of his posts. His thoughts on me are not an indicator of affiliation. I am NOT going to be OMGUSing someone again.

Earth is interesting to me. His post asking if there is a womanizer in the game makes no sense to me. Perhaps if he was a character who was the victim of such an act the idea of them trying to analyze the theme would make sense. I would like a character claim from them. Maybe a role claim as well if the character claim yields more questions than answers.

Supa reads null. He has a good point on Airmax though.

Badger honestly seems scum to me. Earth is someone we should be pressuring (Airmax for activity + lurk too) and he blatantly attempts to shift the focus away from both Airmax and Earth to focus Sui, someone who we have no concrete evidence on. No hesitation whatsoever. He wants to lynch someone, but his only reasoning is “too much energy from first post”. You’d think even if he wanted to keep the game interesting he’d want to pick someone with more inconsistencies, like maybe Earth. Also I hate his logic on relying on the mafia team to kill inactives. They are not going to do that and I think Grey is still a better lynch he could’ve thrown out for the sake of a lynch. Being survivor, he might as well be inactive because his life contributes nothing to town. His death does a little though since a lynch on him has been a key discussion this DP. Even still he doubles down on Sui, when it is still too early to lock in right now.

Whiteflame is weird to me. While the debate around pressuring Earth or Sui is key, he seems to be suspicious of both. Mikal seems the be as well, but he does more to outline his reasoning, which I think is only because he is more active in general. Ever so slightly town. Could honestly be null.

I think I have pinged all of the current inactives. Now I wait. :/

Unless Airmax refuses gender claim. That can lead to more questioning of him.

Also, if we’re pressuring Airmax for a gender claim more than we are for activity I still like a policy lynch on Grey better.

Yo.

Activity?

Ping for activity 

Idk. Why?

What would make the idea dumb?

You have failed the activity check. Engaging in pressure.

Logic? I think I get your read on Sui, but definitely not on whiteflame.

I kinda like pressuring ComputerNerd for activity. Apparently his activity last game was shoddy, and he has done nothing to improve from that so far.

I had a plan for every Pokemon of every battle in the League and Survivor was key to dealing with a lot of the Pokemon from Bertha and Flint's teams, so now I have to get more creative with my planning.

If Grey is to believed (and I think he is), what do we do with him?

A Survivor only cares for surviving, regardless of who wins between town and mafia. In a MYLO/LYLO scenario the scum and town could be obvious, and he wouldn't care. He could just flip a coin and that could be game. Still, I have no idea if mafia wants to kill him either, since they would probably be more pre-occupied with killing townies. On the other hand, they may have a desire to kill him if he starts voting with town, or if it benefits them to get a mislynch on him late game.

Honestly I wonder if we should just lynch him now so he can't make it to the late game. Too many things can go wrong for town if he makes it too far. Between him not participating in critical town pushes on an obvious scum, him being mislynched if it comes down to the wire, and him actively voting against town to avoid being killed by the scum team, the possibilities of what chaos he can cause are concerning.

A policy lynch on Grey would mean no scum or townie is lynched this DP (meaning less info for town early on and a guaranteed non-scum lynch) but further chaos down the road is avoided. Thoughts?

Fair. Looking at the claim of Survivor, it does match up well with the character of Charlotte Byrde too.

Correction: Nope. 7 men 3 women. Still, I just don't think mafia gains enough information from this to try suggesting it.

I don't remember how good of a scum player Disc is (pretty good, I think), but I just can't see this "gender claim" thing being a mafia plot. I think mafia would be trying other things to look more town than a risky trade-off. I think my wariness of the strategy only comes from paranoia, which I will be ignoring from now on.

As such I'm going to town read Disc for now.

activity check?

*is pretty dead even, not isn't.

I see how the whole "gender claim" thing works and I am wary of mafia abusing this tactic, but I just don't see how they can. We know the show isn't pretty dead even in gender ratio, as proven by the claims so far, and it still has all the benefits Disc gave, so I'll go with it.

My character is male.

He wouldn't say it as mafia, I can agree with that. I can't say for certain what his exact plan is though. I don't think any survivor third party would want to say this either if they know they are going to be lynched for it. What do you think of the prospect of a jester?

Dang. I was really looking forward to using my paint and glitter laden IED.

catching up

Hey I caught a quick break at work I just wanna let y’all know I’m picking up some overtime today so it’ll be between 5 and 6 when I get back home.

I guess the next thing to determine is how open we should get with claims. Thoughts? Personally I have no idea.

I know nothing about the show as well.

For clarification: 

I’ve been told that when designing a game, the number of mislynches a town can make and still survive should be equal to the amount of scum. However many player numbers make this equation imperfect, since not all of them can provide a magic number like that. 12 is one of those numbers. 2 scum gives us 3 survivable mislynches and 3 scum gives us 2 survivable mislynches.

So I guessed 3 based on a 2v10 being really fricking hard for mafia even with strong mafia power roles. 3v9 is much more balanced.

12 players, so I’m guessing 3 mafiosos.

(Caveman voice) Me read. Me understand. 

Will be back from work at around 4 pm today. 

In.

Looking for something more simple to get back in the game and remind myself how it works. Maybe even actually be good at it for once idk

How complex will this game be?

I’m straight trash at this game and this game would have put me in a state of permanent confusion.

Yooo holy shit it’s an old name I barely recognize. Have I ever interacted with you before on DDO?

Late 2016 for me. 5 years ago for me. 7 for you now. And then there’s Danielle, who’s DDO profile says she joined the site 14 years ago. It’s kinda neat; this community is like a small town where just about everyone knows each other. Sure, not everyone may like each other, and users will come and go, but I like it here. I would love site growth, though, if it means more people to internet with. The greater amount of perspectives would be nice as well.

A toast to you for 7 years and a toast to the community for even longer.

I rarely stray in this forum, but here I am today.

This question essentially falls down the line of “why are bad things happening” / “why was I not granted the miracles of others?”

The answer is that any miracle is considered extreme grace and a chance to live out a plan God had for you. 

But keep in mind one is not entitled to any sort of grace because of our sins. We deserve misery on Earth and Hell alike.

The only miracle that every human alive has been granted is the death of Jesus on the cross and resurrection three days later. That miracle and sacrifice is what saves God’s people from Hell. All one has to do join God’s people is accept that Jesus is the Lord and Savior.

Still, there is a lot of economic advancement that can be made from this and I prefer the US stays the top economy over China.

But yeah the technology is pretty cool.

Wondering if I should host an unusual topics tourney myself.

Unusual topics can be niche, but there’s so many of them. Anyone can find a niche topic that they will be interested in. That’s why I think any unusual topics tourney will take off with a great force. I’m not against people debating what they want, I’m just saying that I find the most common topics to be uninteresting to me due to constantly seeing them. I’m sure many feel the same.