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Genuinely wondering if this is town v town and we’re dealing with Austin and Earth, maybe Austin and someone else.
I haven’t even thought about scum teams containing Banana it this point.
But if you ask me, Austin should be our lynch. I just townread Moozer a tad bit more. It sounds crazy given some of the weird things Moozer has said (his response to me about my “baiting him to reveal he’s talking on discord,” the Freudian slip Pie alleged from last DP) but Moozer says weird stuff like that all the time, furthermore, he had the chance to back out of the CC but didn’t.
Still really looks like Austin was setting something up, and I don’t fully buy it comes from a town perspective.
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@whiteflame
@Mikal
Well for starters he’s not arguing that Wylted used a fake claim that was given. He’s arguing Wylted didn’t use either fake claim.
It think you see that now.
Honestly that’s only one I can think of. A swear I saw a few more misunderstandings of yours but I don’t see or recall them now. Whatever I guess.
I will say that good chunk of your defense makes sense.
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@whiteflame
@Mikal
Whiteflame, you are misunderstanding a few of Mikal’s arguments.
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@Mikal
Can also buy that Wylted’s DID NOT use the fake claim*
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@Mikal
So, Whiteflame took his actual role, changed it up a bit, and added the name “wheel spinner” to it in order to make it match the fake character claim?
I can buy that, and I can also buy that Wylted use the fake claim
But this is largely speculative. Why not lynch between Moozer and Austin, the CC we already have?
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@Lunatic
Vote count? Also, does the previous one in post 490 contain a mistake… seeing as I invited before then?
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Both of them had the chance, but for Austin, it already looks like he was faking the CC bait, so I wouldn’t be shocked if he stuck to his guns there when offered a chance out of it.
So I think the argument can only be used in Moozer’s favor.
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If Whiteflame is scum it’s hard to imagine Austin as the teammate. No chance he would sac himself for someone also on the chopping block. If it’s Whiteflame, it’s probably that Moozer made a mistake.
Just doesn’t feel likely through. Austin has the setup, and Moozer had the chance to back out of the CC and save himself but didn’t.
Just doesn’t feel likely through. Austin has the setup, and Moozer had the chance to back out of the CC and save himself but didn’t.
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Yknow, despite a couple of reads of his I think are stupid, the small things like this are a towny sign for Mikal.
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@Mikal
Interesting. I wasn’t thinking of wheel spinner like a JOAT. He does get more powerful with more roles as it goes on.
Although it would be different given he needs to meet a condition.
So, I guess the argument is that this has to be Lunatic’s fake role claim
Ok, and that’s why you’re asking if the fake claims are together or separate.
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@Savant
Idk why my vote would be commandeered now, but whatever. Worth testing
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Now that I think about it, I do wonder if a teammate came up with a plan to have Moozer CC Austin to get him lynched, but I gotta think: Austin looked like he would be setting up for it, and any teammate of Moozer’s would know he’d probably get lynched without getting Austin mislynched first if he did that
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Ok fine I guess that’s hammer if Moozer is lying but if not, no more.
At the very least I want to get confirmation or denial from Lunatic on 490
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@Savant
Nobody else vote Moozer.
Savant, don’t tell anyone else to vote Moozer.
Another thing I’m curious is if post 490 was a mistake… if my vote is being commandeered it throws the ideas I just had out the window
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@Savant
So, why do I have to be one of the people on Moozer again? Convenience, or some mechanical reason?
I guess we can still test him, but here’s a thought: Moozer had a chance to back out of the CC when I asked him to check his chat logs. He didn’t.
Thing is, if Moozer is scum, he made a mistake… but if it’s Austin, he has a plan. I’m a little bit sus of the whole “I’m baiting scum into CCing” thing only for someone just to happen to fall for it. Genuinely wonder if he planned to use himself as a sacrificial piece.
Ex:
7v2 - Moozer gets mislynched
5v2- Austin gets lynched
4v1- Earth just needs to survive this one DP, looks townier off of Moozer cop
2v1- Earth wins with politician vote
Alternatively, someone other than Earth could try to get Earth mislynched DP4 or 5 on the grounds he’s survived that long (or other stuff), and they also only need to surivive one DP. It’d have to be someone largely townread, so it can’t be Whiteflame. I’d say Savant or Mikal. Mikal is especially interesting because town investigatives could mess such a plan up, and he really seems to want the item… don’t understand the sudden desire to lynch Whiteflame now, despite the CC.
Like I said. Still down to test Moozer’s role, but I kinda wanna vote Austin.
VTL Moozer
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@AustinL0926
I think you should confirm your role now, given the CC.
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@Lunatic
Let’s say scum got the 1x politician vote from last DP. Could they holster such a thing and use it on a later DP?
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Alr a Moozer lynch is an information treasure trove.
I’m down.
VTL Moozer
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And also, I am on board with lynching between Moozer and Austin now. Someone had to have made the mistake.
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Alr I’m on board with Mikal getting the item after thinking it through more.
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@Mikal
Oh dear god shut up And deal with me tomorrow if I’m lying. We hit scum on dp1. If Im scum and use it, it’s glaring fucking obvious you dipshit
hmmmm. I think it will be, although not for the reasons you stated…
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Ok I’m done with him.
I did finally read the rest of what was going on this DP.
Pie made an interesting point about Banana. Joe Rogan is certainly someone we all know. Problem is I do townread her behavior.
And as for Moozer and Austin. Idk. I get the sense the incentives for both would be NOT to claim the one person who didn’t answer. So the fact that one of them did knowing they would just be CCd is baffling.
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@Savant
- #321 - SL - This post is pretty verbose, and rambling a bit is often a scum tell. Also could be planting potential seeds for a lynch without committing.
Rambling? I felt every paragraph touched on a good point. And if you wanna talk about posts like this: so many players, myself included, have done this before as town.
Here is an example of another player doing something similar as town.
And here is an example of me doing it as town.
And here is Casey doing it this very game.
This is the problem with using only the most recent town and scum game for each player. Not only do you have a sample size of 1, you also have a recency bias.
*scumread but yeah
Btw you can use post 291 which is a lot earlier than your examples here. 301 307 and 310 on the next page are good too
If you’re talking about 883 from wylted, 1. Reads =/= notes. 2. I had been working on those notes for hours, hence why they got cut off at post 631 cause I had to cut my reading short once I saw what was going on in thread. I’m not gonna decide that wylted posting notes would look suspect and then type my own notes in only 5 minutes lol
It’s almost as if, because I worked so hard on those, I wanted to finish what I was doing… there’s no point in me delaying Wylted’s obvious lynch for something other than this, and again, I had said I was going to vote wylted… which would’ve been after I was done. Earth simply beat me to it.
My vote is not necessary if my thoughts got the rest of town to sus wylted and pressure him into the mistake that got him lynched
459 Pie sees my thoughts and agrees
And later Banana and Whiteflame echo similar sentiments to what I had in the 600s
I felt like I had influenced the thought processes of town as a whole, and therefore, deserved credit for the lynch.
And again, I had one of the earliest susses, and would’ve voted for him anyway. The assumption that I wouldn’t have started a wylted train of my own if there wasn’t already one is also funny. You’d think that since I was sussing him the whole DP, I’d be inclined to do so lol. But you noticing that requires you to not interpret everything I do in the worst faith possible
The funny thing about this is you accuse me of doing some distance play that I was gonna eventually back out of, but nope. At no point did I even consider changing my read on Wylted, and you can see that going through my posts DP1.
- #137 - SL - Misremembering role name and claiming a role that is typically scum aligned.
Idr where I pulled Oracle from, but looking at the role, it can reveal something about people visiting the pamper with the role, so that’s probably where the confusion was
If you need an example where I got confused like this as town, Paper Mario Mafia. I got tracker/watcher confused.
Oh, and I’m not sure why you’re ignoring Pie’s point about he how was a town gramps in Villainous Villains,
No, I get irritated when I think a read on me is ridiculous, and angry when someone doubles down on his bad read. Especially when I think I should be widely townread, if not confirmed. Check last game.
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@ILikePie5
The Price is Right was the oldest American TV show to obtain major success, therefore, gramps.
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@Mikal
We hit scum on dp1.
Off my read. Don’t forget that.
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@Savant
“yOu NeEd tO bE oN yOUr bESt bEhaViOR”
Nice threat bud. Nope. I’m gonna be on my behavior. If you mislynch me, I can’t help you. You’re just retarded.
When I get home I will debunk your case one final time. After that, I’ll be done defending myself to you.
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@Savant
I’m gonna play hardball here.
I don’t trust Mikal.
I want to give Pie the item. I will not cooperate unless we give Pie the item.
From there you can organize who is voting for who in their second and third votes.
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Yall better give me the time to post my thoughts this DP. All I’m gonna say.
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@AustinL0926
Still awaiting your response after you check your past message with Lunatic
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@Lunatic
@Savant
They can’t both get it right and get rewarded?
Lunatic, can you confirm or deny this?
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He’d be quicklynched.
Actually makes his role make sense too in the context of a politician that scum can get.
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