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@Savant
Oh HELL no. We don’t know if scum got the question right or wrong, you do realize if he’s telling the truth, scum could just commandeer someone’s vote if they got the question right, correct?
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@AustinL0926
@Moozer325
Post 310, report back when you’re done.
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@AustinL0926
@Moozer325
Both of you check all of your chat logs with Lunatic. Both Discord and DART
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I haven’t read into the CC between Austin and Moozer yet.

Is it just that both of them claimed to be the one that didn’t guess an answer last DP?
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I think at least one of, possibly both of Whiteflame and Mikal are scum.
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@ILikePie5
Idr the game, please give savant a link to said game

You forgetting that Whiteflame hinted at having a certain role… meaning it could’ve been off the table by the time wylted claimed
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I’m gonna just focus hard on my irl job.

I’m crashing out rn
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@Savant
It’s not only on scum you fucking moron
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The thing about the case on me is that it requires you to interpret everything I’ve done in the worst possible way, all to justify the idea that I’m pushing to throw away scum’s numbers advantage DP1. It’s so retarded
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thinking Pje is town rn and I’ll explain why later

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I’m considering scumreading Savant off his retardation. It’s not the fact that he’s scumreading me, it’s the god awful logic that comes with it.

My town case for him was centered around a high DP1 effort and now I’m not sure.

Mikal/Savant/Whiteflame

Somewhere in there I think there’s one

I’m going to guess that Austin/Moozer contains the other and as such I wonder if I gave Austin too quick of a pass
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@ILikePie5
I’m at work and I don’t have time for this shit rn

Please dont end the DP only a few hours in, with me or whatever CC is going on with Moozer and Austin
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Ah yes let’s just quick lynch Mharman. Let’s not
use any of the time we have this DP.

I don’t care what mental gymnastic yall wanna pull, I am not sussing Wylted all of last DP if I’m scum. I am literally the guy who caught his ass.
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Yall are actually fucking stupid. It’s not even funny anymore.
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Price is right*

Also savant plz go the corner and dont forget the dunce cap
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Correction: Gramps, not the oracle. I think I had same role and it was called Oracle in a previous game.

Justification is the process is right is an old ass show, one of the first game shows
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@Mikal
@Savant
I don’t have time in 20 minutes, I have to drive somewhere

Last DP I hinted I had an important role, but said it wasn’t worried about being nightkilled

This was to attract a role block, but not an NK, rolecop would’ve been fine too

I am an oracle so I can see who visits me at night. My character is the price is right.

The mental gymnastics not to hard townread me at this point are insane. Retarded or playing dumb? Call it. 

Anyway I wanna go after Whiteflame and Mikal this DP. Outside chance of Savant and Pie, but they aren’t my focus for right now.
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Ain’t no way. Some of yall gotta be playing dumb
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I’m not even mad this shit is just hilarious lol
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@Savant
^. 
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A sus doesn't always mean a lynch train.
The literal #1 player I was sussing?

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I can’t type sometimes forgive me lol
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** then what do you have to say
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Then what do have to say*
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@Savant
Then we do you have to say about me putting the first major sus of the game him.

Ah yes, 3v8, heavy numbers advantage for scum, let me just throw away that advantage by hard bussing my teammate all DP long, culminating in his lynch just for some towncred… which can be obtained in other ways.
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@ILikePie5
Because of pre/post 2000 thing, correct? Noted
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@Savant
3. I’ve been sussing wylted all game; if the plan was to replace my notes with his I have reason to type up all those notes going for wylted the most. I literally could’ve told Pie I wanted to go after Whiteflame more to protect wylted, who clearly wasn’t in any position to fake claim
I have NO reason*

EBWOP 
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@Savant
  • #885 - SL - Waiting to hammer on scum while claiming he might is suspicious. And since WyIted wanted to post notes, it’s possible they decided that notes from Mharman would look less suspect.
Lol

1. I told pie I was gonna hammer eventually.
2. I wanted to finish my notes, notice how they end at post 631
3. I’ve been sussing wylted all game; if the plan was to replace my notes with his I have reason to type up all those notes going for wylted the most. I literally could’ve told Pie I wanted to go after Whiteflame more to protect wylted, who clearly wasn’t in any position to fake claim 
4. Zero chance Wylted fake claims miller if I’m scum btw. Past teammates of mine can attest, I like being charge of coming up with the fake claims for my team.
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@AustinL0926
Your voting plan is genius 
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@AustinL0926
I’m not sure Wylted’s role is all that powerful, just annoying. Town can circumvent by just having everyone say who they voted for. Only really threatening in combination with the 1x politician, and that’s for mind games that help town figure stuff out.

For example they could target a townie but based on counting who’s claimed to be voting for who, we would know who they’re targeting. Scum could use that to try a fake being the target to get themselves townread, but it comes at the cost attracting attention to themselves when town knows they could just be using it for cred.

IMO they can only really use it to try and get away with a quicker lynch than normal if a few townies misvote, making a triple vote hammer an option.

But we could just get around that by agreeing not to until we have enough people supporting a lynch to vote it in.

Still, we don’t know if scum got the question right, so we can periodically check ourselves for that shit… although I guess it depends on how the politician works… I haven’t asked Linatic and I’m not sure if he’ll answer me

Back to the point, the incentive to refrain from voting wylted is nonexistent… also consider the reason why scum buses in the first place: to appear unpaired. Even if wylted’s role was useful, it does not mean scum won’t just bus him. The towncred is more important for them 

This doesn’t mean that scum absolutely voted for Wylted, it just means you shouldn’t ignore the possibility of one or both being on Wylted’s wagon
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@iamanabanana
Ok I misread that
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@Savant
I literally caught Wylted. It was my arguments that ended up being used to sus his behavior that led to his claim and lynch. Literally one of the first scumread I had was on him. It was one of the few reads I never second guessed at any point lol

Truly one of the reads of all time
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@iamanabanana
Where did Pie say he is the cop?
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But dude I was gonna say “wtf Earth” 😂 
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Looks like Wylted’s role combos well with the 1x politician scum receives if they answer a question correctly
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@Earth
@TheFlatEarther
I did not mean to tag flatearther I meant to tag earth lol
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@TheFlatEarther
Oh the cop was a reward. Got it
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@Earth
You fake claimed soldier as town?!?!?!
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@Lunatic
shi my b cuh
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Wylted confessed LFG I knew there was something up with his lack of behavioral reads
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oh and btw Pie, Mikal, and Casey are all being a pain in the ass for me to read

Adding Moozer to my town block... he joins Banana and Austin, Savant too although i think he's getting fixated on shit that doesnt matter with his reads... still like his effort
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see yall tomorrow
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If Wylted flips scum I'm taking credit for the catch cause I put a major sus on his ass that got yall thinking

if im wrong fuck me ig
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@Lunatic
ok nvm earth hammered
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@ILikePie5
ill hammer at some point tonight dw abt it

go to sleep
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@whiteflame
which hints to you and moozer since you both hinted stuff about your claim

although tbh there's no point in claiming something you think can be verified if it's really a faker claim cause then it cant really be verified and youre screwed

so actually it just points to you exclusively
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@whiteflame
I(t points to you because miller fakeclaims are ass and I don't think Lunatic would give that here, not even as bait cause I can see the incentives for him to give a free full claim based on what's happened in recent games... meaning that if his claim is fake, it's likely he's not using the scum safe fake claim and therefore likely someone else on his team used it or is at the very least preparing to use it
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@Savant
tag
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Do you mean the long one, i.e. my first read set?
i think so and its lumped in with the part where you asked everyone else to post... i kinda put those two posts in analysis together but only numbered the latter post
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townreads ofr mine rn are banana and austin for sure, i like moozer's behavior. I think Earth is behaviorally town but the role is so off

here's what I know: Lunatic loves to take obscure roles and see if he can make them work. In theory that means soldier should be reasonable, but it creates a situation where scum could get three mislynches and still lose... granted I think town should be able to survive as many mislynches as there are scum players (Vaarka's golden rule) but idk to what degree Lunatic agrees with that. I can see Lunatic arguing it's balanced bc of the numbers disadvantage town is at, and that the role will get sussed of being claimed eventually... although that would make the 8v3 even worse for town in practice. I do know it's swingy role and if there's one word to decrible Lunatic's games, it's: "Swingy" with a capital S

so i think there is plausibility in his claim
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