Mharman

Vote Count
Wylted (1/5) Casey

Greyparrot (1/5) Wylted

Casey (1/5) Pie

Lunatic (1/5) Austin

Wylted (1/5) Casey

Casey (1/5) Austin

Greyparrot (1/5) Wylted

Oh and if there’s any confusion about Disciplined… it doesn’t work on no-lynches; it’s worded to avoid that

Post #24

Greyparrot (1/5) Casey

I cannot confirm or deny that one.

There is a theme split

Yes, twilight is after a hammer but before the mod has closed the DP

Hello

Hi 

Ok I said I wouldnt do this, but game starts at 11. I swear on my momma it won’t happen again

Role pms are distributed tho

Game start has been moved back to 10pm, will be moved no further. EST btw

2 hours left btw

As far as the setup goes, I’m not sure. 

I approved this, but I wonder just how balanced it was. Really hard to tell bc some of these roles were weird. I didn’t wanna force Casey to abandon some of these unique roles she put in this game, and I’m glad I didn’t.

Executioner was a little OP and I’ll take the blame for that. I thought it would be publicly announced and never asked Casey about it.

Idk for sure bc I wasn’t in this game, but from the little I was spectating you would’ve fooled me until this sentence. 

Idk how town fell this one lol… you put yourself in a list of risky players just a few games ago XD

Game will be centered around first and third person shooter games.

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Can retool the setup to fit more than 9 if needed/desired.

If I need to help Casey find a replacement, I will.

Banana said she’s available, so there’s that.

Can’t be me ‘cause I reviewed the setup for this game.

You are likely needed. Thank you btw

Oh hello fauxlaw.

I don't know who said this, but someone on here perpetuated the rumor that you had passed away. I don't know who.

hope yall have read up on how to play this game... we have some very helpful threads that are pinned in this forum

Aight the setup looked decently balanced when it was first introduced to me. Made a few suggestions that I think improved it.

gl all.

Yes GP is in

Last time I did that I made a shitty troll game lol 

i have a setup of my own to make, I'll pass. I've found that I can't do both at once

It was an awkward gesture. He was throwing his heart out the crowd. That was the whole point- he wasn’t even thinking about a Nazi salute.

Do you guys honestly think one of the richest men in the world would throw away his reputation like that?

Oh but lemme guess: He did it to secretly signal to Nazis while relying on the benefit of the doubt from others. Please ignore other less obvious ways one could do such a thing. Lol.

Even the ALCU (according to one of their recent tweets) knows this narrative is bullshit. Anyone who actually thinks Elon Musk is a neo-Nazi and this was a salute to Hitler is arguing in bad faith (confirmation bias) and should not be taken seriously. 

This whole case says way more about our media than it does about Elon Musk or Donald Trump.

Not really… I’m not even watching the inauguration. We won with the election.

I wasn’t ever sure if compulsive flavor meant SOP. Miller def does, but compulsive? Not sure. And I thought it was smart to hide the cop, town just ganged up on you for something stupid

I didn't hammer because I figured Whiteflame would, despite the fact the you were obviously town (and I really do think town should've known it). Hiding the fact that you were a cop was a good play, neither of us saw it coming... I had mentioned to Austin redirecting you to yourself could be an idea, but I was fearful of a watcher being placed on you, since I figured with Cerulean's weak investigative role there had to be a stronger one somewhere else (I didn't think it was you since you had essentially SOP claimed). The town confirmation of Lunatic was also a little annoying.

That’s fine but I don’t recall Florida taking funds out of their own flood plans to fund something stupid, so I doubt it’ll be an issue for them.

Glad to see the this thread is still going

I rate this rage bait a 5/10.

If you want to argue FEMA should be disbanded in favor of the states being individually responsible for their own disaster aid, go for it. It would solve the problem of states being forced to help other states. I don’t have an opinion on the idea other than I would say I’m cautiously intrigued by it.

If you want to argue states affected by hurricanes should never send any aid to their people because some Republicans don’t like the idea of paying for California’s wildfire relief, lol. Just lol.

The difference between the California and the hurricane states is that California has been neglecting its forest management duties in its parks, directly increasing the damages caused by forest fires over there, while also trying to fund various pet projects that none of the hurricane states would touch with a ten foot pole. Comparing these forest fires to Hurricane Milton is foolish.

Should we deny California aid at this time? I would say no, but I’m not opposed to giving them a sort of warning to start being more efficient with their spending (forest management included) that could come with future reductions to forest fire aid. After all, if they throw away money that could be used to reduce forest fire damages in funding said pet projects, it would eventually make the federal government pretty irresponsible for enabling California’s ridiculous spending.

I wasn’t really hard bussing him until the very end, so it’s a bit different than that one game where RM and Pie went after each other from the get go. I don’t think I’ll ever go as far as they did in any of my scum games.

In many situations I wouldn’t have needed to bus him at all. The point of putting him in my scope DP1 was just to have a long term act in distancing from him… I was planning to have someone overtake Austin as my primary scumread DP2 after Cerulean’s DP1 mislynch.

To answer your question in the politics forum: The game went well, yes. I didn’t think I played as well as Pie says, but I got away with it.

Yes. We should stop thinking about race when hiring people. Anyone can do the job if they have the skills.

Lunatic - CYR Mafia

The fact that leftists can’t even define Nazi nowadays shows why you shouldn’t punch nazis. Even so, until people act on their beliefs, they are not enough of a threat to escalate things. Until then, they can be redeemed.

I really don’t think race matters here. Plenty of fit guys of other races that can do the job as well

I know bullish likes to get back into mafia from time to time, so I’ll tag him

Not me sorry. Burnt out

1hr 30

Ceruelan: I don’t like his behavior day 1 where he asks us all to speculate roles and switches to character specific the second it is point we put to him that. His defense then was that he wanted people to speculate based on what characters mafia might have. Tbf he did do focus on characters plenty before defending himself on that, but that character focusing could help in determine town PRs and also retroactively justify his behavior. He did ask ADOL that question about secret hitler and Galbatorix before going on about role spec, so there’s that, although he revealed his hand on that after his spec. 

DP2, however, he was defending Wylted. Not as hard as I was (and I wonder if he would have hammered if Whiteflame didn’t) so I was thinking the argument I apply to myself should apply to him and yeah, defending Wylted there does carry the risk of losing the mislynch, even a lighter defense. That’s a major point in his favor.

This DP he did clear Whiteflame, so I’d have to conclude they’re working together if they’re a scum team. I don’t think the master plan is as hard as others say, but if Cerulean was scum and buddying Whiteflame there, odds are low that he clears him there. It’s worth noting that Oracle and Voodoo Lady do kinda CC each other, and singer as well. I have to either conclude there really is that level of redundancy in the setup, or I have to say ADOL is only weak semi/total investigative role. The Oracle role can be an excuse for being alive this long, but we did force the role out of him… at the very least, the justification isn’t horrible, although a little suspect iirc from what Lunatic said.

Whiteflame: I didn’t like his defense of Cerulean DP1 where he essentially credited some plan to manipulate the scum team as the reason cerulean was doing all that. I don’t buy that. He was on the wagon DP2, so that’s definitely against him, although he was also on the wagon late. I also hated his arguments throughout this game. 

The tide started to shift with the voodoo lady claim. Like with Wylted, it would be a stupid claim if he’s scum and it does have Ceruelan’s blessing now. UnCCd voodoo lady is not as compelling as unCCd cop though, and he is in fact CCd by ADOL’s role at the least. It’s not that having Cerulean clear him is hard, it’s the pick itself is super hard to pull off, at which point anyone with the skill necessary to pull it off would rather fake claim something else and making that work. 

The connection to Cerulean is actually helping him here because I think the case for Austin and ADOL are both stronger than for Cerulean’s- I can at least see the town case for Cerulean and by extension Whiteflame.

Austin: In DP1 he gave reasons to scumread Cerulean but then said came up with a townread of him off vibes alone. Same with Lunatic, except Lunatic wasn’t scumread or townread by really anyone because he had barely adobe anything at that point. Then after I vote for Ceruelan, he just joins the wagon. 

DP2 he was the second person on the wagon again and parroting much of Luantic’s points. Lunatic can get a clear on bad logic for being town confirmed, but Austin isn’t confirmed by anyone. Not Wylted, not Cerulean. At least Whiteflame is paired with some with a town case; Austin doesn’t have that luxury. Since then nothing has pinged my radar, but I’m not seeing any real reason to townread him.

ADOL: At first I was felt he was genuine but now that I’m seeing more from him, I think he was just flying under the radar. The whole need he felt to disassociate from me last DP was weird and saying it out loud is more revealing of noob scum than noob town imo. I didn’t think anything of it DP2, but his idea that Lunatic could be scum with some fuckery is really weird to me, so there’s that. Oh and he did misrepresent where I stood on things earlier this DP.

Then in this DP he says he’s gonna make the call that it’s me and Austin, then backtracks and says he’s not certain. And DP2 he didn’t fight the Wylted lynch that hard sure, but he didn’t go against it that hard either. He gave very little reason on both sides tells me it’s fencesitting where he went for Wylted once he was sure the chances of getting Wylted were good- notice he was the third on the wagon. I know noob town doesn’t have much in the way of logic to give, but neither does noob scum.

All in all there’s no town case for him other than I just have to believe he’s town from the start and derp clear him, at which point he’s just as easily scum and derping around, if anything it’s more likely given obsession with disassociating from me. I kinda get the sense he’s doing it to frame things in a way that makes me his theoretical teammate at Austin’s request.

Also, his claim of singer and justification is horrid. Ok elves sing. So what? To me Arya sounds like a protective role if town, and a powerful role if mafia given that she’s one of the main characters with a variety of skills at her disposal. She could also protect mafia in some way. If we’re going off justifications, ADOL has far and away the worse one. He doesn’t even get the argument that such a claim would be stupid if he’s scum, since in this scenario he gets to blend in off Cerulean and Whiteflame’s roles. It’s a misplay to go for it imo because there’s little room his role, but it’s not inherently horrid because he can argue it makes him fit. The part of it that truly makes it horrid is the justification.

Even in the extremely unlikely situation where Cerulean is scum, ADOL is the more likely the teammate sine Austin still voted Cerulean at the end of the day, when a lynch on him was no guarantee. No even in that rare event Austin has a town case that he wouldn’t normally have, that ADOL doesn’t.

And this is what it really comes down to at the end of the day. For Ceruean and by extension Whiteflame, they have a town case I can see. Austin doesn’t really have one right now, but in the rare scenario where Cerulean is scum and buddying Whiteflame, he gets one there. ADOL has absolutely nothing going for him.

Plus, he spends all that time on me and then doesn’t vote at all- so I wonder if he’s afraid of putting us in a situation where one of us is guaranteed scum because he’s the stronger PR. He was also the last player in the game to claim. Although thinking about it more it doesn’t matter much since the final three is almost guaranteed to be Cerulean, Austin and I. All the info on PRs has probably been gathered, and scum probably has made all the plays they can. So that one scenario where Cerulean is buddying Whiteflame matters a tiny bit more because ADOL looks just a tick worse than Austin. Cerulean seems to not want to decide between Austin and I today, so there’s that.

All in all, ADOL’s behavior is too weird, the defense is weak, the justification for his claim is horrid, and in any possible scenario he’s preferable. I’m going to go for him.