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@Casey_Risk
Well my year started out being scared as shit and walking into my uncles’ hotel room to make sure Uncle #2 was there (he drove to NOLA and met us as the airport).
He was on Bourbon Street for the new year. Thankfully he left hours before the guy in the truck came.
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@whiteflame
??? I think you’re reading this weirdly.
Post #7 from Cerulean is where the idea is floated that we all speculate on what scum has. Since we’d obviously be basing our speculations on our abilities, we’d be unknowingly outing our roles.
The only real chances town has to mislead scum here are to speculate something that mafia has that is not based on what the townie actually has, at which point the point of discussion is ruined. I highly doubt that we were all subversively being asked to mislead scum by speculating what they have based on what we don’t actually have. Simplest explanation is that he was just fishing for information.
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@whiteflame
I'm pointing out that what he was doing doesn't necessarily feed info to scum, at least not in as straightforward a manner as you're saying. It would not be the first time someone had lied about their role in an attempt to get a CC on scum.
I don’t see how’s baiting scum into any sort of CC. He literally just started the DP asking people to speculate on some roles. He didn’t ask people to reveal their roles, he asked people for their thoughts that would likely reveal something about their roles. Obviously scum isn’t gonna push for information too directly. That is completely different from what you did last game, where hid a power you had from scum in your claim.
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As I said, I wasn't sure. Objectively speaking, it's a specific enough mech post that it could go both ways, but my gut was telling me that the depth of thought going into it was pretty unlikely to come from a player who's already informed about the mechanics of mafia communication. That being said, the only possibility that I would consider explicitly scummy coming from Cerulean is if that mechanic is already in the game and Cerulean is just TMIing it, but I find that relatively unlikely in view of the "asking questions" thing in the OP, as mentioned earlier.
Well to me it just looks like he’s finding stuff to say that doesn’t help much. That doesn’t really answer my question though. Do you still have the light sus on Cerulean from earlier?
As for Lunatic, I read that as null because it doesn’t do all that much to help town imo. The only difference between he and Cerulean is that he isnt subtly asking others to out their roles, then looking for other stuff. I will say that I like what he saying about Earth earlier
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@whiteflame
I see where you're both coming from on this front, though I'll note this is not necessarily the case. It would not be the first time I've seen some "speculate" on the existence of a set of roles that included their actual role in an attempt to deceive mafia
Where are you getting the idea of some plan like this from? To me, it just looks like Cerulean was fishing for role info, then went for some lesser info once that was rejected.
I also don’t understand the weird mechanics speculation- I would be shocked if any of he’s going on about is in this game. It feels completely useless to me.
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, he would know such a soft claim is risky
Sent the post too soon
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Honestly the fact that Cerulean came up with the character claim idea doesn’t change much for me.
He literally went into the idea after being told roles were tied to characters. I think we kinda fell for it.
The only wrench here is that claiming a non-main character off the rip would put him in the line of fire. Unless he was speculating there would be more people with side characters
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Oh he said contains negative utility, not that it is entirely. Ok
Still not certain on him but that removes the piece that was weird to me, so I guess that’s a point in his favor
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The thing about Wylted is that I can at least see why he’d be open to claiming negative utility considering last game
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@AustinL0926
Question: It looked like you had an inkling of a sus on Ceruean of your own. Why townread him so quickly?
Same with Lunatic. I didn’t think his post was all that alignment-indicative.
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Like I don’t get the point of saying he is negative utility but somehow it’s not sop
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@Cerulean
Why's that? If our roles are closely tied to our characters, then it stands to reason that the evil players also have roles that are closely tied to their characters. So if we can peg some likely characters, we might get a good idea of what sort of evil roles there are to deal with.
You proposed the idea in Post #7 before any of that was said. The reason I don’t like the idea is because mafia can tell who has what roles based on what they speculate mafia might have.
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I like Whiteflame’s idea of asking if everyone has an important character. Mine is on the wiki list
I don’t notice Earth showed up. Null.
That’s all for now.
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Lunatic null. Cerulean feels off and I’m going to look into him more when I get the chance (I absolutely hate how his role speculation idea). Casey slight town (mostly for pointing out what Cerulean may have been doing). I like Whiteflame’s vibes, although I do note what he said to Casey earlier and I can see a connection between him and Cerulean.
I haven’t thought much about Austin and Wylted yet and I look them later before I look at Cerulean again.
I am making my way through an airport rn since my father, uncle, and I are going to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl.
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@Castin
I remember you were once interested in this
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Also, current season is ok. I like the new map, the guns less so. The mobility items annoy me.
I’ve been dropping Shining Span.
Also, the rappers in Remix was annoying, but C2S2 still holds up. Got me a few more wins with that mingun. Getting to drop into Misty Meadows again was great.
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@Shila
The three posts above you were made by advertisement bots.
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@RemyBrown
I’m going to research private prisons. They make up 8% of US prisons and I have a feeling they are better at everything compared to public prisons.
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@Best.Korea
I’m not gonna bother dealing with you.
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@RemyBrown
I’m all for improvements to our criminal justice system, but I don’t think this is the alternative we should be looking at. I have a feeling it won’t help reform criminals either. Seems pretty cruel and unusual for all but the most heinous of crimes.
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@Sidewalker
Do you have anything to say about the other post I tagged you in, or are you going to cherry-pick?
Seriously. Prove to me this impending shutdown really matters.
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@Double_R
@ADreamOfLiberty
Read an NBC article about the current situation, they cited trash piling up in public parks as a negative consequence of a shutdown (with reference to 2018) If that’s the worst they can come up with, I’m not bothered.
I remember the last time the government shut down. Everyone went about their business as usual. I think ADOL is correct about this.
As far as the politics of it goes, I think the Rs will be blamed and lose a little support (I’m taking DR’s word for it here when he says shutdowns negatively impact the side that gets blamed).
Last thing I’m gonna say here is that the American public will end up caring way too much about something that they will hardly be affected by, because government shutdowns sound worse than they really are (again, assuming DR is correct and people will actually care). I wouldn’t take outrage and the political blame game as evidence that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, or that the government is doing anything useful right now.
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@Sidewalker
ok so I looked up what this was about
Basically, there was a bipartisan bill, 1,500 pages long that was supposed to avoid a shutdown. Trump proposed a 116 page version of the bill instead, the House rejected it, with Dems hating on the proposal.
To avoid a government shutdown, both the House and Senate will have to go back to the original plan.
all in all, I can’t say I care that much. If the govt shuts down for a bit, oh well. Given that the GOP controls the senate, house, and presidency, Trump will get his way soon. The only real inconvenience I see is that the 1500 page version has a lot of things that the next administration will want to get rid of.
So, the only real consequence here is how soon the Rs get what they want. Government employees will be furloughed, but I don’t care.
What is surprising to me is that Trump played a role in this. I’ve seen a lot of “orange man bad, here’s why Biden’s failures are Trumps fault” posts on here. The previous post was hasty of me because I defaulted to how I would normally respond to something like that. My b
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@Sidewalker
Gee I didn’t know Trump could cause a shutdown under the Biden administration.
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@Shila
lol. Sounds like you don’t know what abortion is. I’m done with you.
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@Shila
There is a difference between preventing conception and killing an unborn baby after conception. If you can't tell the difference, you are not worth my time.
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@WyIted
Technically yes.
I’ve always considered that to be a weak position.
Like seriously, who tf says “oh yeah I don’t think abortion is moral because it’s murder, but you can murder your child if you want”
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@Shila
No, the court ruled that abortion rights are not protected by the constitution. This means that the states decide whether or not to ban abortion.
For example, Indiana has banned abortion. In California, abortion is legal.
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@Shila
Pro-choice is the side that favors abortion.
Pro-life is against abortion.
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@Greyparrot
This is correct. If a fetus is not a child in the womb deserving of protection, they will be treated as an extension of the woman’s body. Her body is her choice because her body is her property. By extension, the child would be as well. She may give birth to the child and raise them, or she may have them discarded if she does want to take care of a child.
That is the pro-choice viewpoint, and it is why dehumanizing a fetus is so important to their position.
I feel like this is obvious though.
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@Shila
I believe you do not have the ability to understand this conversation. To you I say: Goodbye.
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Honestly I’m thinking this ain’t worth it.
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@Shila
It was John Roberts’s opinion that presidents cannot be prosecuted for official acts. It was the journalist’s opinion that the Supreme Court says Trump is royalty. The journalist does not understand what the Supreme Court actually said. The journalist is simply whining about the Supreme Court’s decision in the case.
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@Shila
for all acts that can be interpreted as part of the official course of his “core” duties, and “presumptive” immunity for all other official acts.
Declaring oneself a king is not a part of "official acts" or "core duties". The above quote is the court's way of saying: No, Trump cannot be prosecuted for using the legal powers given to him by the Constitution.
In the article you copy-and-paste, some left-wing journalist is simply whining that Trump can't go to jail for doing something he is allowed to do- that being, challenging election results if he believes they are incorrect, for national security purposes.
The journalist who wrote that article failed to be objective; the journalist allowed his bias to taint that article. Lesson 1: Do not be so quick to trust what an American journalist says. Many of them are delusional.
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@Shila
That's not true at all. Please tell me where you are getting this ridiculous idea from.
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