Mharman

Austin, do you agree with Whiteflame’s assessment of Pie?

So I get the sense you’re hiding a third ability. No JOAT I’ve seen has just two.

What is it and what is it called?

Austin-WF or Austin is town.

Oh wait ur right nvm

Idk what the hell im thinking

Austin-Lunatic orAustin is town

I’m getting ahead of myself

I’m not 100% sure about Whiteflame but I am confident you are town now.one scum between you and Austin.

I think Austin messed with my results on Wylted, and that’s why he showed up on my radar.

I was implying that by voting for Lunatic, both of you might be Whiteflame’s teammate and avoiding a lynch on him.

As opposed to a bussing of Lunatic, which is what I settled on. 

I thought the DP was gonna end for a sec so I was thinking quickly…

I had your request of 10pm still in my head

Uhhh maybe? As long as you aren’t a godfather and ninja at the same time

Oh I miscounted how much time was left

HOLY SHIT ONE OF YOU VOTE ALREADY

Fuck it. Both of you could be bussing Lunatic.

Argh. The scumread of both you on Lunatic while not voting for him pisses me off.

Ok I see what pie means. He’s saying he’d have to be bussing Lunatic.

Which I can believe. However, it should be noted that with both of you pushing for Lunatic, both of you seem content to defend Whiteflame from a lynch.

Why do you not make sense from my pov? If I was settled between you and Austin, I would’ve voted one of you to avoid having to choose between Whiteflame and Lunatic

What the reasoning for me having to conclude it’s WF/Austin?

I’m still thinking about Lunatic vs Whiteflame. Whiteflame’s behavior was pissing me off DP1, but right now it’s become a deadlock for me. In particular, I do think Lunatic could be buddying me. I see the signs of it more in Luantic than I do Whiteflame.

List your abilities and what they are called. All of them.

I’m around. Still thinking

On final 3 nvm

F3?

The question about who my teammate is. I saw you restate the obvious, but that’s not good enough for me.

In the meantime, I will note that one of you is buddying me.

Please tell me why the other person is buddying me, and why you are not.

This means I’m betting on myself to make to right call btw

You know what? I don’t like the idea of one of you voting, only to be wrong while the other quick hammers.

I haven’t decided which of you will should go last, but I’m going to go first.

To be honest, I’m leaning toward Pie to be the last because I don’t like a lot of the things you’ve been doing in my retrospective analysis, Austin.

I’m not 100% committed to that read yet, but one of you two is town. When I am done thinking through all this, I will pick the townier one between the two of you.

Not sure. I’ll let one of you two be the decider.

Sure why not. Extension is fine

Finished DP1, Pie said one small thing I didn’t like at the end but everything else about him looks townie-ish… at the very least, I have better explanations for his behavior from a town pov than I do for Austin and Whiteflame

*Yes, a TP that joint wins would've outted themselves earlier, but a TP in general doesn't have to out themselves rn

EBWOP

I don't know or care about your mech theories. The whole point of speculating about a TP was to bait one into outting themselves. Yes, a TP that joint wins doesn't have to out themselves rn. But that's the thing: One that doesn't can out themselves and try to claim they do joint win. If I can expose them as someone who doesn't joint win for the exact reasoning you described, mafia will have to NK them, which ensures no TP bs.

At this point I'm down to say there isn't one because I did forget how Wylted was talking all about how the game could be over. I thought for a second you could be the such a third party with your claim. The possibility remains, but 1. Alternative explanation for that statement from Cerulean 2. If there's any third party at all, I've concluded we're screwed anyway. 3. Part of the reason I said fuck mech analysis is because I felt I was a part of the problem as well when it comes to reading too hard into mechanics. I'm not doing it anymore.

Midway through DP1. So far, Whiteflame and Austin are rubbing me the wrong way in the retrospective analysis.

If you guys want me to explain how my conclusions can even be possible, I will theorize mechanics AFTER I look at behavior.

You know what? Fuck mechanics; fuck mechanical analysis.This game has some fuckery, and it can be in endless ways. Behavior comes first.

I’m rereading the previous DPs again. I am not going to give people free passes because of mechanics, nor am I going to incriminate them based on mechanics. Not anymore.

Oh nvm

14 hours

But looking back*

So I notice Greyparrot didn’t say anything DP2,  nor was he tagged by Cerulean.

A tailor may be back on the table. I was suspicious of Greyparrot’s claim in DP1,  it looking back, that doesn’t have to come from scummy motives.

Lesser but existent case

Feels like buddying. I can see some synergy between him and Lunatic if Lunatic is scum. Mostly because he claimed he strengthened Lunatic. However, I see he’s with Whiteflame on a lot things being said, so that there’s a a lesser but existent claim there.

Here's a thought:

I notice how last DP, Cerulean went out of his way to say, "The game is not over."

How could the game be over after 2 mislynches in a 7v2?

Unless, it isn't a 7v2. I can imagine a third party survivor asking Cerulean if the game is over (assuming they aren't killed in the night), and Cerulean answering it there.

A 6v2v1 setup would be pretty bastard, but given the fuckery that undoubtedly exists in the setup, I can imagine it being here because Cerulean clearly doesn't know what he's doing here... I think he hasn't quite grasped the rolemad game style yet, from a design standpoint.

I’ll get back to you on scum teams after more thought on Whiteflame and Lunatic.

As for you, not sure. You’ve said one thing that seems pretty genuine. I pointed it out because it feels like a moment of honesty at a time while scum is more likely to be focused on their agenda.

Other than that, not much. I’m not the biggest fan of your claim, but I can tell this is a weird setup, so anything’s possible I guess. This feels counterintuitive but I want to give you points for scumreading Greyparrot, Wylted, and Earth. Yeah you could be piggybacking of my logic on Grey and Wylted, and finding an easy ish frame on Earth, but I get the sense all three of them put themselves in position to be scumread. I’m definitely biased but it’s hard for me to blame you on that.