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@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
@iamanabanana
Why aren’t you willing? I’ll do it if I have to, although I prefer Casey, Owen, or Banana take the hit.
I’m willing to bet this is desperation from Whiteflame anyway.
Tell ya what. If Banana and Owen don’t show up, we decide between Casey and I.
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@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
Don’t forget Owen. Let’s give Banana 30 minutes to show up, then we can pressure Owen for it. He has 30 minutes as well, then we ask Casey to do it.
Casey, will you be available at 11:04 EST/10:04 EST? You’d be hammering with 26 minutes to spare
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@ILikePie5
Yeah but we can have her unvote and hammer. Wylted will vote Whiteflame after she unvotes, so she’ll be the fifth vote
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@ILikePie5
This is the other benefit to having Banana hammer Whiteflame. If he’s town, Banana does and you are solved as scum.
But I’m confident Whiteflame’s scum. Very confident.
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@ILikePie5
I’m pseudo-CCing either you or Banana. If both of you are alive tomorrow, we’ll figure it out then.
I’m actually leaning toward Banana over you for a lynch.
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@ILikePie5
Hm. Owen first. I townread Wylted and Vader. I’m felling better about Casey, but she did propose self-sacrifice earlier, albeit not in this form.
I think the order should be:
1. Banana
2. Owen
3. Casey
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@ILikePie5
@iamanabanana
Ok.
Banana, please hammer Whiteflame or you face the wall.
Banana, please hammer Whiteflame or you face the wall.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
I also don’t like the name “suicide bomb” in general. Bomb is already suicidal, so adding to “suicide” is redundant. If he wanted to indicate it applied to daytime lynches, he could’ve said “day bomb” or he could have looked up the name for the role he was stating, which you guys have already pointed out.
I also don’t think saying “mod psych” to hand waive away an argument is logical. Sure, mod psych analysis has gone wrong plenty of times, but it wouldn’t be a thing in the first place if there wasn’t at least some truth to it.
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@ILikePie5
A reference to something you said earlier
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
@Moozer325
Thoughts on post #381?
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@ILikePie5
For noobs its reactions as well
Ah, there it is. Recalibrating…
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Perhaps I should be the one CCing Banana, not Pie
Fixed
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@Moozer325
I would prefer a Whiteflame lynch here. Hammering his claim is a bit risky, but I’m confident he’s scum.
Does your role have anything to prevent a town death if we lynch Whiteflame and he’s not lying about his role?
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@ILikePie5
How do you go about looking for people to pressure?
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Yk, I don’t like Pie’s behavior. Especially with regards to how he reacted to Banana’s claim. Based on what Pie is softing, one would think he’d be confident CCing her, especially after scumreading her so hard. It’s worth noting that there’s scum alternatives to whatever ability he’s going to claim tomorrow as well.
And yet, I can’t help but think of the logical consequences of Pie being town. It would completely invalidate Banana’s claim in my book.
It’s worth noting that between Pie, Banana, and I, there would potentially be three roles that investigate a players’ night actions. I was quick to believe Banana’s claim because it was a rather weak role, much like mine. But I suppose it’s not out of the question for Lunatic to pair a stronger role with a weaker one, in which case Pie’s claim is more likely to be paired with mine than Banana’s.
It’s also worth noting that Banana and I have roles that gather the same information, just in different ways. That synergy between our roles, could also be a conflict. Perhaps I should be CCing Banana, not Pie. I’ll say this: I’m at least willing to say I’m soft CCing one of them.
But if Banana is fake claiming, what is the scum alternative to her character?
Anything and everything, all of the time
A little bit of everything, all of the time
Agony’s a tragedy and boredom is a crime
Anything and everything, all of the time
I could honestly see this as a mafia JOAT. I’ve listened to this song before. The song goes on to describe various things one can do on the internet, which could be taken as a list of possible JOAT abilities.
Finally, if her claim is fake, it means mafia had a claim ready. This probably means Banana got help.
Remember Casey’s earlier point about Whiteflame? I do. Whiteflame pushed Banana for a claim, but didn’t vote. This was before Casey and Wylted put votes on her.
I could see a Whiteflame-Banana team under this lens. This is the third time Whiteflame has come up in one of my theories. First it was Casey-Whiteflame, then it was Pie-Whiteflame, and now it’s this one.
While there’s still debate to be had about Banana vs Pie, I’m looking at the big picture and seeing all roads lead to Whiteflame.
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@WyIted
You’re thinking of Banana.
Casey claimed negative utility before we were on Banana.
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I mean I guess his role isn’t pure negative town, but neither is Casey’s… the justification is still shaky and the behavior behind it doesn’t add up.
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@Vader
@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
@Moozer325
@iamanabanana
My vote on Whiteflame stays. Who is brave enough to hammer, in the event his role is real (somehow)?
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1. It’s a “noooooo don’t lynch me” type of claim
2. In both Banana and Pie’s claims, justifications up to this point have referred to lyrics in the song. Mine does as well. Whiteflame’s claim does not.
3. This is another negative town utility role, and a strong one at that. Casey already claimed one and her behavior creates a much stronger town argument for her imo. Two negative town roles may be possible, but with one of them being that punishing… it’s hard to see that.
4. If Whiteflame’s role really is true, he has a better shot at hitting scum if he keeps it a secret. Letting himself get lynched is the better play if a late wagon is formed on him imo. Because his behavior doesn’t match the role, I’m inclined to think he’s lying about it.
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aight, goodnight, double for real this time
in fact, triple
I'm counting on the rest of you, town. Manage your time wisely. Balance thinking and doing.
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@Casey_Risk
TBH I have a slight scumleaning on all the players who aren't very interested in my lynch. Scum don't generally want neg town utility players out DP1, or even at all before MYLO/LYLO if they can help it. The fact that WF doesn't seem to care about me at all is actually a bad sign in my book.
I am feeling a bit better about you and trusting this more. Whiteflame is a high scumread for me, and this is just another good point
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@ILikePie5
@Casey_Risk
ah. I'm not sure if I'm willing to wait for that... I might be, depending on what happens with Whiteflame
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@ILikePie5
Wait, you talking tomorrow as in Nov 4 or DP2?
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@ILikePie5
okay, if you say so. I'm still open-minded
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@Casey_Risk
lol i just have so many small thoughts I want to say
I guess I'll include Banana in post 330 as well, but to a lesser extent. I'm honestly still liking her behavior more than Pie
Any questions, Casey? Or anyone? Imma sit here and go to be at midnight, and set an alarm for 7:00... I'll sac an hour of sleep for this
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@Casey_Risk
That's confusing to me as well. I don't fully understand what's going on there, but at the same time, I think it would be anti-town to openly speculate too much.I don't think Pie is going to claim further today. If we're going to push someone else for a claim, I think it ought to be Whiteflame. I still have a town leaning on Owen (albeit mostly a gutread) but WF is still very null to me.
oh and about this, this is more or less my mindset... although I would be open-minded to Pie as scum if I were you, given what I said in post 326
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@Lunatic
Vote count? I know you're a night owl, so hopefully you're here.
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@Casey_Risk
ok... I'll leave a vote overnight to help out with this.
Unvote VTL Whiteflame
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12 hours left... that gives 4 hours to secure a lynch in the morning, if I get 8 hours of sleep. Obvious math is obvious, and I'll have to rely on same owls and early birds if I want a lynch that'll get me some information that'll help solve this gamer, hopefully get a successful lynch on scum as well.
So here is my message for the rest of town: If you can't figure anything out, I'll guess we can lynch Casey, as she's proposed. However, I would like for you guys to look into Whiteflame and Pie. My alarm bells are back on Pie, and I'm really not liking Whiteflame rn.
One more thing: Between Banana, Pie, and I... it doesn't look like there's room for the three of us.
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I reckon it'd be a good tradeoff from his perspective is Banana got lynched.
*if, not is
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I wouldn't be opposed to pushing Casey either, but I prefer Whitelfame. Owen, less so at this point. I think we have more information to gain elsewhere.
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It's really late in the DP and we need to lynch someone in the morning. I kinda want to pressure Whiteflame for a claim; I don't think we're looking into him enough. Everything he has done this game is just super convenient for him if he's scum.
I also don't understand why Pie is holding off pushing for a Banana lynch, given what he just said. If I'm picking up what he's putting down, I reckon it'd be a good tradeoff from his perspective is Banana got lynched.
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