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I mean seriously look at how hard this dude is looking for full claims. It's objectively scummy.
Unvote VTL Pie
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Watch Pie, tomorrow he's gonna say I playing like shit and you can't blame him for pushing me.
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Does anyone have a behavioral reason on me? I'm not seeing anything except poor modpsych and overreading a mistake I've made previously as town.
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@JoeBob
No it isn't. Blocking lanes is a part of rough driving.
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@Savant
Sorry. Was trying to keep scum team on their toes. Didn't work.
Bad gambit.
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Wait he can't have a teammate and make that play on his own. I'm tunneling him.
Alright, I'm roleblocker because of how he roughs other drivers up. Wanted to avoid an NK.
Sorry. Bad gambit.
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@Owen_T
You made that play on you own. Want to talk about my read on you?
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His teammate is probably Pie and if there's a TP it's someone else.
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@WyIted
Holy shit how can you believe that. In his mind he's clearly thinking he gets the lynch and can defend himself tomorrow. It's a shortsighted noob play.
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Last game, he's trying to figure things out. This game, he wants us to carry him. He's not really focused on hunting scum, he's focused on his own survival.
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@Savant
Dude, he obviously is claiming that because he wants the lynch. He's noob scum and has been following Pie the whole way through. Look at his posts. Everything he's been posting reeks of blend-in behavior.
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@ILikePie5
This is WIFOM. Anyways I want to see what everyone’s thoughts on your justification are because it’s weak
No it isn't. You don't know NASCAR circles. A lot of fans are calling for drivers (most recently, Kyle Larson), to retaliate. Because he keeps getting away with the shit he does and he seems almost invincible because of it.
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@WyIted
A PR is any role that has an ability... tf are you talking about?
Also, why would I want to setup a claim to cover for being alive in the future? I know the scum team will keep me alive after this for a mislynch.
God this is a witch hunt.
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@JoeBob
He is definitely a NASCAR villain. One of the most hated drivers.
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FINE.
Denny Hamlin, bulletproof. The reason being, he roughs up other drivers on the racetrack constantly while almost never receiving any retaliation.
I wanted the wagon to back off so I could bait the NK. Thanks for ruining it... are y'all fucking happy now?
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@ILikePie5
Lmfao, if your role is that valuable then I will back off. I’ve done it countless times.
Last time you did it, you were town and backed off when I refused to claim. Two games later, and you're doing the opposite.
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@ILikePie5
We will see his claim, and then make a determination.
Look at him setting it up.
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@WyIted
You've gotta be kidding me. It was a smartass way of saying I ain't claiming. "Jack and shit" and is a phrase that means "nothing." The pumpkin role is the most ridiculous role I know about.
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@WyIted
I'm not overestimating the usefulness, trust me.
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@ILikePie5
Turns out it’s hard for scum to fake claim when mod doesn’t provide them any claims or hints.
It's called not being a complete dumbass. You saw me wait to claim in my last two games, and you know it.
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@ILikePie5
@WyIted
Nope. The specific PR will help them. You're gonna need me at L-1, but I don't recommend it.
If you don't wanna waste time, stop this stupidity. But I know you won't listen, Pie.
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@ILikePie5
The fact you even brought that up is convenient lol. First you blame the late hours. Then you say oh but I did that as town too.
You're reaching so hard here lmao. You know late hours existed last game, right?
And we’re officially at the OMGUS
And we're officially at the mislynch push I was expecting for a while now.
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@ILikePie5
Can you just put the 5th vote on him. He’s not going to claim until he’s on the chopping block. The only reason I’m not fully advocating for him to be lynched is because he hasn’t claimed yet.
Doesn't matter. You're setting the mislynch up and you've been setting it up.
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@ILikePie5
It’s called scumhunting. I think you scum slipped, and I laid out why. 6 people want your claim. Not all of them can be scum. I’ll give you an hour to full claim. If you don’t, you will be lynched.
Nice little extortion to get your hands on an all-important PR. Nice job, you know how to pressure TIs who fuck up when they were posting at 1am.
Also, I gave some reasons why I'm town. Of course you'd ignore them.
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@ILikePie5
There’s nothing about faking going on here. Every mistake he made was a genuine mistake that gives away his affiliation as scum.
Why'd I do it as town last game then? You ignored that piece of evidence. Convenient, isn't it?
So my reason is now sketchy? Mharman previously said my reason was “compelling.” What changed? Also because there is no theme split, characters can be justified in any way.
I thought about it more. That's what changed. You just latched onto him for no reason, and latched onto me as quick. I may have felt at the time that the one reason you gave was compelling, but at the end of the day, if you have nothing else, that reason is weak on its own.
So a TP Lyncher who wants Wylted lynched or Mharman? First of all, we don’t know 100% if one exists. Number two who do I want lynched lol
Potentially. It would explain the dumb latches... but so would you being scum.
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@WyIted
@Cerulean
If Wylted is retarded enough to think that was a real claim, he can't be helped.
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@ILikePie5
You call it OMGUS, I call it accusingsomeone who's hard claimhunting like a bozo if he's town. If the OMGUS, is right, there's no problem, now is there?
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@Cerulean
Mhar, is there anything in particular about Pie's reasoning that makes you think it's not genuine rather than a villager deathtunneled on you?
1. How bad his logic is. I've explained everything I've done and I've shown that I've done it before in previous games when I'm town. Let's honest here, do you really think someone can fake all this? I didn't do it last game but was accused last game by Austin. Second, if I was scum I would've been paying more attention to the point where I wouldn't have forgotten/got confused about Wylted's claim in the first place. Tired as I may have been, everyone's claim would have been fresh in my mind. If were scum, I'd be hunting claims as hard as he is.
2. His claimhunting. He started with Wylted for sketchy reasoning, and is looking so hard for claims in a game where there is no themesplit and all that can be gathered from analyzing characters is the PR. It benefits scum more than any other faction.
3. Two games ago I said my claim would do more harm than good. He backed off then... why isn't he now?
4. There's a TP in this game. I wouldn't be surprised at a TP lyncher.
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@WyIted
he is trying to change his character and claim he was joking
Look me dead in the eyes and tell me this is a role that Lunatic would put in his games.
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@ILikePie5
I don't trust you and I'm curious about your claimhunting. Your logic is BS and I think you know it. Are you scum or TP? Trying to figure that out.
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@Savant
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Casey_Risk
@Owen_T
My character is Jack Shit and my role is the Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beans out of its Ass.
Get off my wagon; it’s only gonna do more harm than good.
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@ILikePie5
So you’re saying in the same post, you “forgot” that Wylted had already character claimed when in that same post you acknowledged that he had already character claimed? That makes no sense.
Call it nonsensical or whatever you want. It’s the same thing Austin said of me last game.
Keep in mind I am thinking as type. When you combined a tried Mharman with a slew of posts to look at and events to follow, I am going to screw up my thought process in the middle of writing a post. So yeah, it can happen in happen in the same post.
Are you though? You lynched your top townread last game just for information. Getting a claim from a slight townread shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
*In a time scramble where my top scumread wasn’t available for a lynch, and my only option was to look at the two wagons and decide which one would prove my scumread. We are not in a time scramble now.
That’s not even close to what is happening right now imo.
Yes it is. Exact same shit, people reading too far into simple mistake I made and erroneously scumreading me off it.
If you want to talk about slanted versions of events…
He’s claiming he he didn’t know Wylted had character claimed while acknowledging he did in the same exact post he made.
… then you should mention to everyone you’re pinging that I’m saying my mistake was because I missed/forgot details and got confused when I wasn’t thinking clearly (again, late at night).
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@Earth
I don't understand your Owen read. This is Owen's second game and he was mislynched DP1 on his first. You can't exactly base behavior off of that.
Are you saying he's adjusted from last game and I'm reading too much into it? Maybe, but there's a lot of things I mentioned that seem off to me. How much of that is all just from me misreading his adjustments? I don't think all of it is.
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@Earth
@Casey_Risk
Please do not pressure me for my claim.
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@ILikePie5
@Cerulean
This is a lie. Mharman said this in the exact same post:I want more depth on your reasoning as to why you think we should get his claim. Why is his character strange to you? And what's to stop Wylted from having a good fake claim in this game, where it can be anything that interests him? Do you really think he's so bad at fake claiming that he would fail to come up with a good one here? Are there any additional reasons to get his claim that you have in mind?So Mharman did know that Wylted had already character claimed at that point and that I was asking for a role claim from Wylted.
Dude. It was late at night. My brain wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders. So yeah, I can forget stuff in one paragraph and remember it the next. The paragraph I cited earlier, when read does show I was thinking of the consequences of Wylted outing his character, meaning that my whole logic on not wanting to claim was taken from my normal thought process on getting claims, forgetting that he had claimed.
Then, when I went to read back your post and so I could ask questions at the end of that post of mine because I'm wondering if you see something in Wylted that I don't, I read all your concerns on him and got reminded of the character claim and asked that question at the end, without thinking about how that would change my reasoning in the first paragraph, because I wasn't think about my own reasoning, because I was tired and not thinking clearly. That's why those two paragraphs are a contradiction, not because I'm "lying my ass off" but because I wasn't able to think clearly about things and am prone to missing details and confusing myself when that happens.
But Mharman never said that he doesn’t want to pursue Wylted because he slight town read him. He said he doesn’t want to pursue Wylted because it will help scum sort out who has the stronger PRs from the weaker ones, which implies that Mharman knew Wylted was town to begin with.
A slight town read is enough of a town read to make me not want a claim. Yes, I am that cautious.
He was fine lynching his top townread (Owen) last game DP1 just to get information for the next DP, which is fine cause it was last minute ig, but directly contradicts the cautious nature he’s presenting here. He also just blatantly lied about not knowing that Wylted had already claimed.
Cautious nature? Dude we're in DP1 and we're all trying to figure this shit out. You've seen me play cautious and conservative before, many times. Even when I was confident Casey was scum two games ago, and Austin was scum last game, I still didn't pressure people to quicklynch. When the rest of town wanted me to hammer Casey in CoC, I still had questions. When Whiteflame said he was hesitant to vote Austin, I said that's fair.
How are you going to say that I'm contradicting my past behavior over a situation, that you yourself say was a different situation (last minute scramble)?
I think Mharman scumslipped and is not trying to back track (and in the process is lying his ass off). At least help me pressure him for a full claim
Austin said the same thing of me last game after I posted this. Was that also me backtracking and lying my ass off? No, it was me explaining my behavior after I got confused and made a mistake.
I misread your post when you said he wanted his role claim because I forgot and got confused, and forgot Wylted had claimed. By the time I remembered, I didn't think about how it should change my thought process. This is similar, if not the same to how I got confused on Austin and Savant in last game, as explained in the post I linked above.
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@ILikePie5
Post 121, he says that he doesn’t support the Wylted train because it’s going to help scum get identify PRs, which doesn’t make sense at all unless he knows Wylted is town.
I don’t know who’s what for sure. But I do townread him. If I think someone is town, why the hell should I push for a full claim on him?
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