Mharman

I’d rather be Harvey Dent than Anton Chigur.

I worded that horribly. This whole convo started because Wylted said Own was confirmed… maybe Lunatic did have a reason to speculate.

Hmmmmmm

And if you're wondering why I mention ethics when talking about team balancing, it's because anything other than pure, unpredictable randomness is unethical.

I guess the big question for me is, how plausible is it that Lunatic would go off on such a whim, when nothing about the question of ethical team-balancing was talked about beforehand?

After thinking more, I'll say this:

Using mod psych isn't inherently scummy. BUT... when someone who is town is trying to read mod psych, they are going to look for things that the mod has already said, either in-thread (DPs or sign-ups) or whatever the mod said in PMs.  They are not going to try and figure out whether or not the mod is ethical in how they balance the teams. I asked Casey in-thread about how they organize the teams in-thread because Lunatic mentioned it, and told yall the type of reply I got in a PM from Casey. I only went into mod psych because the idea was suggested and Casey replied to me. Lunatic on the hand, went off a weird whim.

To expand, I don't think I've seen Lunatic play the mod psych game before. But I think he should know better. To me it reads as giving town something meaningless to talk about as a distraction. I don't see how he could think Casey is just "the type of mod" to manipulate the teams so Owen would get a veteran teammate in the event Owen rolled scum. Whatever reasoning he has, it's arbitrary. And he should know that.

I do believe it is between Savant and Lunatic. I was town reading Wylted from the start and I've believe Austin since he claimed. Leaning toward Lunatic because the whole psych thing reads like a load of crap to me.

Does it just mean above the normal random odds?

Tf is +randchance explain in layman’s terms plz

Huh

^^^ FYI

So Casey declined to answer this question to me in a PM.

Yeah tbh I saw him tag Pie and I didn’t even check to see if he was tagging someone in the game lol… I assumed Pie was playing by seeing Wylted tag him.

How do you go about determining who’s on what team?

Like this

What you saw earlier was an example of an RVS, or Random Vote Start… which is just one of the ways someone can start a game off

You have to bold votes for them to work

For the memes

No 

I’ve gotten too many people with that lol…

but I swear what I posted here really was an ace attorney meme

I don’t wanna be an armchair mod, but what if Owen hydra’d with Barney? I think it’s a good idea.

Lmao it’s one of those objection.lol memes

Also outside of the funny lines and and that one song (Cornered, I think), I know absolutely nothing about Ace Attorney except that there are lawyers and they argue

In.

I am so going to type “OBJECTION!” at some point during this game

So you did have a rolesteal. I was asking Lunatic about it sometime after I saw there was multiple roleblocks. Had a hypothesis that somehow you had gotten Savant’s motivator and got multiple roleblocks that way. I’ll admit the logic wasn’t exactly airtight (and obviously incorrect now that we see the role PMs) but…

…the fact remains, I’m shocked you didn’t use it. You probably knew from my refusal to claim in DP1 that I had a strong PR; I don’t know what things looks like from your perspective but I’m thinking you should’ve killed me for my abilties. You never know what you can get, and anything that has to do with vote manipulation is OP in the hands of scum. Trust me on that. In fact, trust Whiteflame in that.

Combine that with a Yakuza and you would’ve been unstoppable I think.

See you in several months or so lol

On a positive note, Whiteflame and Casey were pretty easy reads for me even without Wylted taking over DP2… more so Whiteflame imo

And I’m glad Disc and I were on the same wavelength to save Wylted

And yes I did hide the 1x double vote gift when full claiming in case something went wrong

So all in all I don’t think I suck I just overcomplicated things for myself to satisfy an inaccurate gut read. There’s a place for listening to one’s gut, but here I should’ve trusted my mind more 

I softclaimed bomb a bit thinking if Whiteflame was one he’d have no problem with it, bc I’d be keeping myself safe and potentially baiting mafia into killing him

I think my manipulation idea was good, it’s just that the reads necessary to make it the correct play didn’t line up

I really just thought Whiteflame’s claim was so bad that scum Whiteflame would come up with something better

Yeah and somehow I managed to convince myself Whiteflame was a bomb, because it satisfied my gut read on you which was completely wrong…

Thinking Pie scum slipped was pretty bad of me

Save it for the endgame thread lol

FIGHT!

K that’s fine cya

Agree to disagree

oh I see “the more in the hood, the stronger they become” something something

Fair enough. If it helps ease your anger, as of Sunday I arrived at a summer camp with extended family, and I spent a lot of time with them yesterday.

Really thinking a neighborization of Barney or Whiteflame would’ve been helpful last DP

Why not?

Forgot to ping. Also, the reason you’ve suggested Lunatic might have a hard cop on top of the other investigative abilities could also be the reason Whiteflame claimed cop. 

True, but I think yours and Disc’s abilities are designed to have some synergy.

It would not be the first time a DP had ended on page one and I decline anyways.

I think my vote will be on Whiteflame today. Not until everyone has something at least, however.