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The new thread should come out some time in July 2024 btw... it will definitely not be in June because there's a lot of work to do on it.
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Hey guys,
In light of the DDO shutdown and my discovery of 25 mafia games on DDO that predate Animal Kingdom Mafia (of which I saved screenshots of the basic information), I've decided to create an entirely new archive thread that I'll start working on sometime next summer. It will revamp a whole lot about the current one, giving commentary on the setups of games and whatever else I could figure out about said games (IF ANY OLD DDO USERS WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT SETUPS THEY MADE, AND STRATEGIES THEY USED/TRIED IN GAMES THEY REMEMBER MAKING/PLAYING, OR PROVIDE COMMENTARY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL).
It'll probably be 1 post per game, but that's fine since it will be pretty informative (for the most part). I believe this new archive would be a great resource for noobs trying to learn how to create good setups, or maybe find good strategies to use when playing games.
Anyways, the new archive would look something like this:
Games #1-25
Animal Kingdom Mafia (#26)- Black Metal Mafia (#308)
Bloodline Mafia (#304, first game on DART, meaning I can start providing links to DPs)- My Favorite Anime Characters Mafia (#388, most recent game on DART)
Games #389+
Y'all can start posting in this thread now, it won't be the archive for much longer, only a few months... I'll ask the mods to unpin this one (and Supa's DART mafia archive) when the new one is up
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376) Comedians Mafia (Mod: Lunatic)
377) Vanilla Mafia (Mod: Disciplus_Didicit)
378) Bakugan Battle Brawlers Mafia (Mod: ILikePie5
379) Anime/Game Waifu Mafia (Mod: Mikal)
380) Ozark Mafia (Mod: Lunatic)
381) RNG Mafia (Mod: Mharman)
382) MMA Mafia (Mod: Lunatic)
383) NFL Mafia (Mod: Mharman)
384) Conspiracy Theory Mafia (Mod: Mharman)
385) Arkhamafia (Mod: That2User)
386) Gay Mafia (Mod: Wylted)
387) US Governors Mafia (Mod: ILikePie5)
388) My Favorite Anime Characters Mafia (Mod: Vader)
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@WyIted
You could call this Wylted VII Mafia if you wanted it to sound more regal
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@WyIted
7th account actually. I forgot ur old Wyited account got changed to PREZ HILTON.
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@Tarik
bout 10yrs... past that I wanna see how many titles you've got, and your average stats, as well as the context behind them..
Side note, MJ is still the GOAT.
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@Tarik
I don't care much for longevity after a certain point.
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@Tarik
A factor in LeBron's records is his longevity. I think using averages would put things more in perspective.
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@WyIted
Disregard the word “coordinated” then. It’s not evidence either way.
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No such thing. That being said, what makes a great game varies by genre.
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I really hope Snowden and Assange get pardoned at some point.
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@WyIted
Just look at the top 10 books on immigration on Amazon. I just checked like 8 of them have Jewish last names. So it isn't a matter of mere belief but who is working the hardest at pushing these beliefs which harm society
I’ll respond to this later as well. This is not evidence of some coordinated effort to destroy non-Jewish white culture.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It seems that enforcement against toxic users has tightened some, but not to the desired level. Roosevelt should’ve been temp banned at least a year ago. Heck, TWS’s temp ban (the one he got before being permabanned over an alt he created to evade the temp ban) was a bit overdue (I’m still thankful for it, though).
There are a few other users on my shit list when it comes to toxicity, but they don’t demonstrate the point as well as Roosevelt (I think of them as diet Roosevelts, on either side of the political spectrum). I also don’t think it’s worth mentioning them here.
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@WyIted
What concerns me though is some commonalities among what they believe not stating obvious facts.
My point was that thoughts vary among rabbis on whether they believe the things they preach, like "that is the wicked state of human nature; there is not a nation or people on Earth free of guilt." (The idea that all peoples are capable of evil)
I'm not sure what similarities you're referring to here, but I'd like to note that in terms of politics (this thread started with you mentioning pro-open border Jews), Jews can range in political beliefs (obviously). While the majority are liberal, there are still plenty of conservative Jews.
I feel like I am smart enough to figure out people's motives and read them pretty well.
You "feel" like you are. This statement reeks of overconfidence. Sure, you may be able to tell want some people are thinking, but to claim a level of accuracy that would justify your claims that all these rabbis are insincere is absurd.
I don't know if cultural explanations should mean we just ignore unethical behavior. It's useful into manipulating that demographic to display ethical behavior but it is certainly not an excuse to do unethical things.
Obviously. My point is that culture is the main reason behind one's actions (nurture), and not their genetics (nature).
I also don't think you can entirely dismiss genetics as a factor. Genetic predisposition does have an impact on personality
It does, but it is not anywhere close to the contributor that culture is. A few things:
1, Via neuroplasticity, the brain can rewire itself at the cellular level (by activating certain genes when forming brain cells) to accommodate for ideas the individual is exposed to. For example: Someone who grows up in a violent culture will be more prone to aggressive behavior, making it near impossible to determine who actually has the "aggressive gene", and who is just influenced by neuroplasticity. The same concept applies for someone who grew up in a culture where outsiders were looked down upon; their brain could activate genes that make one prone to judgmentalism when they actually have genes that would normally make them less judgmental than the average person.
2, The genes for aggressive behavior, narcissism, sociopathy, etc. can be found in people of all races, but the races that show the most tendencies for certain personality traits are the races with cultures (generally speaking, as individuals can change their culture by choice) where such traits are deemed valuable, and the attitudes expressed by those traits are the most common (go figure). This indicates that, on a purely genetic level (without the interference of neuroplasticity), all races have equal predisposition for all behaviors (ie, the percentage of individuals with a certain trait would be uniform across all races), and that the genetic traits that make a race, a race, are not found in the brain, but in more visible critera, like skin tone.
This is all to say that nurture is greater than nature, and it's not even close.
What else would I be saying? .................................Nobody advocated for that.
Ok, good. Depending on what ideas you're critiquing, you may have a point. Every culture has some aspects that are immoral; this includes Jewish culture.
However I wonder what your opinion would be if you replaced conspiracy theory with fact. If 10000 orange people came from the sky tomorrow and you knew for a fact they fully intended to murder all of your people. Siblings parents you etc. Then would you think genocidal orange people would be appropriate?
Like an alien invasion? If I knew for sure, yes. But that would require EVERY individual orange person to be attacking humans. Additionally, any orange person that would stop fighting humans and start defending them would be spared.
However, this is irrelevant here, given that there is no way to establish how every person in an entire race of people thinks among any of the peoples we have on Earth.
Are you one of those people when somebody chastised thr Russians for invading Ukraine, you believe that every individual Russian is being blamed?
No.
It's useful to examine group behavior and we realize this when we speak of countries (sometimes) . If somebody does that they are speaking of the zeitgeist within the population or the egregore the people create. It isn't a statement against each individual.
That is valid.
Utilitarianism would be the answer. You know innocent people would get caught up in the genocide but do a cost benefit analysis on whether society is better off without them or not. The sane type of Nigilism commonly found on the left.
I assume you mean this in the scenario where such a genocide (like the one Neo-nazis advocate for) were to happen, and that you're not saying cost-benefit analysis may justify a genocide, given that you expressly stated you are not advocating for genocide earlier.
I'll say this as a final note: Be wary of the sources who tell you the Jews are damaging America. You may not actually hate all Jews, but these ideas come from people who do. To be honest, I would approach their claims with HEAVY skepticism, and I am wary that you may not have.
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“Was having a conversation with the defendant (Ermus) about the ingredients of the sausages. At some point, the defendant approached the victim and punched him multiple times,” an incident report obtained by the outlet read.
DART users if they could interact in person:
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@WyIted
Mafia will likely never reach the peak it had earlier in this site's history, and very likely will never reach the peak it had during DDO's heyday. But I do appreciate you attempting to gather members for this game. I think mafia will persist as long as this site does, the games will just be relatively infrequent.
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@WyIted
This is just what the preachers they listen to every Saturday publicly state. Imagine their private thoughts.
I imagine thoughts vary from rabbi to rabbi. Some are sincere in their message; others have hidden agendas. But this is true for everyone; and the idea of a broken world with broken humans everywhere isn't exclusively Jewish- many of other religions, and even many atheists recognize this fact.
I'd like to remind you that you are not a mind reader. You can imagine their thoughts all you want, but you are not reasonable to judge based on your imagination.
I reject the notion that every group of people is equally evil. It's absurd on its face. We know that both genetics and culture diverge around groups and even a random distribution of people around d these groups would still end up with statistics that cluster
There are cultural factors that lead a people group to a specific sin more often than other people groups, for sure. But there is no worthwhile evidence to suggest genetics make an entire group of people less moral. Every fault you can find in a people has a cultural explanation.
The thing about cultures is that they can be reformed, and adherents of any culture do not have to stay in that culture. If you are saying it would be beneficial for Jews to reform aspects of their culture, that is acceptable. However, I have a feeling that isn't what you're about to suggest. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt because I'm no mind reader either, but I am going to warn you of the ideological path I suspect you are traveling:
To advocate for the eradication of a people, based on some conspiracy theory that they are seeking to eradicate other people, is wicked. It would make you no better than the evil you believe you see in them. I will never understand people who miss the irony of blaming genocide on a group of people who are in the millions, each diverse in their own personalities, ideals, and beliefs within their greater culture, and proceeding to advocate for a genocide on that people. That will only result in a future people blaming your people for genocide, and proceeding to commit genocide against them. The only way to fight against the cycle is to refuse to participate in it.
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This is the 1,000th post on this thread. Most threads never get close to this milestone. Long live this thread!
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Speaking of mafia, role madness isn't common in other forums that play mafia. It seems to be just a DART mafia thing, and that's neat because it makes DART's mafia community stand out a little bit. I used to hate role madness, but I've grown to appreciate it.
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Speaking of site culture, I wonder if mafia will ever come back again in full force. I doubt it, but I'm hopeful.
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This whole thread started because spam threads were outlawed... it serves the same function as a spam thread, but you have to think of a thought in order to post something. So it's able to continue on without mods ruining it, because it isn't a spam thread.
I think this thread is a great piece of site culture. And I think it's closer in terms of content to the "Record Attempt at Most Posts" thread from DDO than the DART version that got put on read-only.
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@WyIted
I think you've had 8. I said 7 earlier, but forgot about one of em.
So "Wylted's 8th Account's Mafia Game."
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@WyIted
No, not any more than any other people group tries to commit genocide.
That is the wicked state human nature; there is not a nation or people on Earth free of guilt.
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For the record, I’m still undecided on participating here. It’ll still come down to my schedule.
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Hmmmmm… Something smells fishy about this game… but then again, this is a Wylted game. I wouldn’t expect anything else.
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@RationalMadman
I think I have a good brain for chess; I'm just rather new (been playing for just over a year). I have a good understanding of chess principles... but I just need more experience to start recognizing some of the patterns good chess players can notice consistently. I've been climbing the elo ladder, so that's a good sign.
I don't think I could be a good fighter. I could be skilled enough to defend myself in sufficiently a typical street fight, but I don't expect myself to be stepping in any sort of rings any time soon... or at any point, ever.
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@RationalMadman
I was using Rapid. I'm traaaaaaash at Blitz (~500) and Bullet (~400). Now that I think about it, you're probably far above me in those time controls (most people are, I think).
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@RationalMadman
Just curious… I wanted to know if you were around my level. I’m ~1100 and would be willing to 1v1 if you were around that range.
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@RationalMadman
What's ur CC elo... LC works too ig
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@WyIted
I’ll think about it. My schedule is starting to free up a bit more, but mafia takes time. I’ll let you know by Saturday.
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@RationalMadman
The topic doesn’t matter too much to me.
Recently I’ve been voting if it’s an easy vote to cast. I don’t really have the time to break down competitive debates, just the ones with forfeits, concessions, or one side that barely makes any arguments at all.
That being said, my schedule is starting to free up a bit more, so I may be able to cast one or two votes on a more high-level debate per day.
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@Intelligence_06
You'd also need to find users that are interesting enough to interview, but not crazy enough to derail the interview.
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@cristo71
Typing my thoughts as I listen along:
I like the start. The vocals are nice as well. The guitar adds another layer. I don't completely understand the meaning of the lyrics, but I think I get the gist of it. The guitar solo is amazing. The ending is a nice, clean way to wrap things up.
Wow. I've heard synth before, but I've never heard anything like that. It's fantastic.
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@HistoryBuff
I've been around this website on and off for awhile. My assumptions are well founded. Many people on this website are trump cultists.
I'm seriously questioning what you define as a cultist, but I'll ignore that for a moment. There's a reason I said "irl communication" earlier. While rational people exist on the internet, it is always the unreasonable that are the loudest and most seen. Many of the more rational minds can't stomach the idea of internet conversations these days, as a result. This applies for both wings.
I mean, why would you? There are very few people out there who "love" biden or the democrats. there are millions of people out there would literally kill and die for donald trump.
That is a perception you have, but I don't see a whole lot of evidence for it. I'd bet that if "millions of people" were really that willing, we'd see a lot more political violence than we currently do. Nothing you could even cite includes anywhere near that large of a number.
But I have shown people, on this website and elsewhere, quotes of donald trump saying he thinks he can suspend all laws including the constitution. And the response is something like "well he didn't mean it". I agree polorization is a problem. But the mindset of the maga subset of the republican party engages in cult like thinking. They will worship trump no matter what. He says he wants to end the constitution but they still believe he wants to protect it. He has slept with porn stars, cheated on his wives, sexually assaulted women, admitted that he likes sexually assaulting women on tape, but millions of people think he defends family values. He publicly made the republicans stop a bill to protect the border, but his followers still believe he is the one that wants to protect the border. That isn't politics, its a cult.
All of this is a perception you have of previous debates. I likely wasn't there for any of those, but I get the sense there is more to the story than what you are telling me. I'm not accusing you of lying, but I'm keenly aware of how two people with different perspectives can easily fail to be on the same page. Most of the accusations you just levied against Trump are ones I don't believe to be true, because they are based on reports that are lacking context. I am open to discussing these at a later date when I am not as busy (tbh, I probably shouldn't be responding here; I think I'll just let you have the last word after this post), on a thread dedicated to those topics.
Here's the thing: You've collected a list of things you believe are falsehoods purported by Trump supporters. At the end of the day, all of these are disagreements. Someone will be right and someone will be wrong in debates about all of these, but holding incorrect political beliefs and defending them does not reach the level of "cult-like behavior." Your argument is basically that Trump supporters are cultists because they are wrong on a bunch of things. I could collect the same amount of things I believe to be ridiculous defenses of prominent Democrats and leftist ideals, but that doesn't suddenly make the people who believe those things "cultists." To understate: A real cult has a bit more going on than just incorrect beliefs.
I mean, you say that. But donald trump managed to get a crowd of people to attack the capitol and try to overthrow democracy. You say there isn't a sizeable amout of people who would advocate committing crimes for trump. My response is, if you actually believe that then you aren't paying attention.
I don't believe he is responsible for Jan 6, and I don't believe everyone there was attempting to overthrow the government. Add that to the list of things I'd be willing to discuss at a later date.
Once again, nothing you could cite reaches the amount of people in the millions, or even close to it (not even when combined). The amount of people at Jan 6 is nowhere close to sizable, not in a country with ~330 Million people that can pull ~150 Million votes in one election, with about half going to each candidate.
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@HistoryBuff
Perhaps you should start by not assuming the worst. This whole “Trump supporters are a bunch of cultists” garbage led you to think this guy was actually being serious.
I’m a pretty strong conservative, but you would never catch me calling liberals, Democrats, and Biden supporters “cultists.” They are simply people who disagree with me. Some are idiotic, but most are people of normal or high intelligence, who simply drew the wrong conclusions.
Demonization of the other side of the aisle is exactly how we get polarization, lackluster debates/communication, censorship (in some cases), and (in this case) situations where people miss an obvious joke.
Sure, there are always going to be some people on both sides that would unironically advocate for voter fraud, but that is not all of them. If you think even a sizable amount of people (percentage-wise) on the other side of aisle would post this unironically, you are wrong, and desperately in need of some irl communication with people on the other side.
In the case of Wylted here, I highly doubt he’s seriously advocating for election fraud. He may have just wanted to discuss what he believes to be voter fraud on part of the Democratic Party, and created this troll thread to bait people into conversation. Alternatively, he may have just been wanting to troll, and then saw an opportunity to have this discussion once you replied.
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inb4 someone takes this thread seriously
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@sadolite
Synth music isn’t “played” by anyone. It’s composed by people, and I argue it requires some talent. Not as much as some other genres, but some nonetheless. Anyway, I find it nice to listen to.
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@Mall
I’m a Christian man and I know where I’ll be after I die. I just want to experience a full life before I go.
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@Mall
I wouldn't fear death unless it's an early one.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
There it is. I was waiting for those remarks.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Your thread definitely encouraged me to do that.
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Ok. I will now think orange man = bad because someone else thinks so.
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