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@cristo71
Typing my thoughts as I listen along:
I like the start. The vocals are nice as well. The guitar adds another layer. I don't completely understand the meaning of the lyrics, but I think I get the gist of it. The guitar solo is amazing. The ending is a nice, clean way to wrap things up.
Wow. I've heard synth before, but I've never heard anything like that. It's fantastic.
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@HistoryBuff
I've been around this website on and off for awhile. My assumptions are well founded. Many people on this website are trump cultists.
I'm seriously questioning what you define as a cultist, but I'll ignore that for a moment. There's a reason I said "irl communication" earlier. While rational people exist on the internet, it is always the unreasonable that are the loudest and most seen. Many of the more rational minds can't stomach the idea of internet conversations these days, as a result. This applies for both wings.
I mean, why would you? There are very few people out there who "love" biden or the democrats. there are millions of people out there would literally kill and die for donald trump.
That is a perception you have, but I don't see a whole lot of evidence for it. I'd bet that if "millions of people" were really that willing, we'd see a lot more political violence than we currently do. Nothing you could even cite includes anywhere near that large of a number.
But I have shown people, on this website and elsewhere, quotes of donald trump saying he thinks he can suspend all laws including the constitution. And the response is something like "well he didn't mean it". I agree polorization is a problem. But the mindset of the maga subset of the republican party engages in cult like thinking. They will worship trump no matter what. He says he wants to end the constitution but they still believe he wants to protect it. He has slept with porn stars, cheated on his wives, sexually assaulted women, admitted that he likes sexually assaulting women on tape, but millions of people think he defends family values. He publicly made the republicans stop a bill to protect the border, but his followers still believe he is the one that wants to protect the border. That isn't politics, its a cult.
All of this is a perception you have of previous debates. I likely wasn't there for any of those, but I get the sense there is more to the story than what you are telling me. I'm not accusing you of lying, but I'm keenly aware of how two people with different perspectives can easily fail to be on the same page. Most of the accusations you just levied against Trump are ones I don't believe to be true, because they are based on reports that are lacking context. I am open to discussing these at a later date when I am not as busy (tbh, I probably shouldn't be responding here; I think I'll just let you have the last word after this post), on a thread dedicated to those topics.
Here's the thing: You've collected a list of things you believe are falsehoods purported by Trump supporters. At the end of the day, all of these are disagreements. Someone will be right and someone will be wrong in debates about all of these, but holding incorrect political beliefs and defending them does not reach the level of "cult-like behavior." Your argument is basically that Trump supporters are cultists because they are wrong on a bunch of things. I could collect the same amount of things I believe to be ridiculous defenses of prominent Democrats and leftist ideals, but that doesn't suddenly make the people who believe those things "cultists." To understate: A real cult has a bit more going on than just incorrect beliefs.
I mean, you say that. But donald trump managed to get a crowd of people to attack the capitol and try to overthrow democracy. You say there isn't a sizeable amout of people who would advocate committing crimes for trump. My response is, if you actually believe that then you aren't paying attention.
I don't believe he is responsible for Jan 6, and I don't believe everyone there was attempting to overthrow the government. Add that to the list of things I'd be willing to discuss at a later date.
Once again, nothing you could cite reaches the amount of people in the millions, or even close to it (not even when combined). The amount of people at Jan 6 is nowhere close to sizable, not in a country with ~330 Million people that can pull ~150 Million votes in one election, with about half going to each candidate.
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@HistoryBuff
Perhaps you should start by not assuming the worst. This whole “Trump supporters are a bunch of cultists” garbage led you to think this guy was actually being serious.
I’m a pretty strong conservative, but you would never catch me calling liberals, Democrats, and Biden supporters “cultists.” They are simply people who disagree with me. Some are idiotic, but most are people of normal or high intelligence, who simply drew the wrong conclusions.
Demonization of the other side of the aisle is exactly how we get polarization, lackluster debates/communication, censorship (in some cases), and (in this case) situations where people miss an obvious joke.
Sure, there are always going to be some people on both sides that would unironically advocate for voter fraud, but that is not all of them. If you think even a sizable amount of people (percentage-wise) on the other side of aisle would post this unironically, you are wrong, and desperately in need of some irl communication with people on the other side.
In the case of Wylted here, I highly doubt he’s seriously advocating for election fraud. He may have just wanted to discuss what he believes to be voter fraud on part of the Democratic Party, and created this troll thread to bait people into conversation. Alternatively, he may have just been wanting to troll, and then saw an opportunity to have this discussion once you replied.
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inb4 someone takes this thread seriously
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@sadolite
Synth music isn’t “played” by anyone. It’s composed by people, and I argue it requires some talent. Not as much as some other genres, but some nonetheless. Anyway, I find it nice to listen to.
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@Mall
I’m a Christian man and I know where I’ll be after I die. I just want to experience a full life before I go.
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@Mall
I wouldn't fear death unless it's an early one.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
There it is. I was waiting for those remarks.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Your thread definitely encouraged me to do that.
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Ok. I will now think orange man = bad because someone else thinks so.
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WE DUNKING ALL OVER THE LIBS WITH THIS DRIP!!!!!!!!!! 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯
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@TheUnderdog
Someone who, in theory, holds values that compliment our country’s founding as well as Judeo-Christian culture; in practice, they are completely spineless in defending those values.
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@Lunatic
REMINDER FOR LUNATIC: DebateArt.com is a website that exists.
(It is truly one of the websites of all time.)
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@WyIted
This phenomenon affects inanimate objects as well. I went to Walmart the other day to buy a TV for my dorm room. I was stunned when the employee recommended I get an LGTV. It’s just so sickening how the big gay has infected our televisions.
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@Theweakeredge
This place is a cesspot of conspiracy theories, bigotry, and fierce anti-intellectualism
There's definitely some conspiracy theories, and plenty of anti-intellectualism. There's been a bit of bigotry as well. That being said, I have a feeling that less than half of what you'd cite as bigotry is actual bigotry, and I'm curious as to what you'd cite as anti-intellectualism as well.
Nonetheless, goodbye. I've never met or debated you (so I don't really know the type of person you are), but I wish you a good life from here on out.
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@Greyparrot
Imagine paying money to Jeff Bezos for “journalism” just so you can make ad hom threads on DART lmao
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@zedvictor4
I’ve never had anchovies before. I don’t think I want to try them at any point, either.
Red peppers make for a nice choice though.
I’m kind of a 5-meat kinda guy, but recently I’ve been trying a bit of variety.
Last night I had a pizza slice with sliced beef strips, green peppers, black olives, and some kind of spicy sauce on top. It was pretty good.
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There’s a lot of pizza types out there.
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@sadolite
@zedvictor4
@Mall
There's already a thread for this lol https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6249-if-you-have-a-random-thought-post-it-here?page=1
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@Tejretics
Well enough, personally.
This site is looking rough tho. I hope the new owner(s) (when Mike finds a suitable buyer) will respect the potential and culture this site has, unlike Juggle did with DDO.
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@ebuc
@Intelligence_06
Welp. Looks like the end is near fellas. Again.
Ebuc, I know you remember it well; as do I. "Fun" times, am I right?
Intelligence, were you there when the collapse of DDO happened?
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@Greyparrot
I was in a theater to watch the latest Transformers movie months ago (which sucked too btw- Bumblebee gave me false hope for Rise of the Beasts), when I saw an ad for Wish. Because I saw it was Disney, I decided to forget about its existence. I'm just now being reminded, and from what else I'm seeing online, it looks like I made a good decision.
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@Sam_Flynn
A sequel? In this day and age of the film industry? It's probably not gonna be good.
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@Vader
Common thought was something like this. Retrospective thought tells us the NFC East teams + Ravens were bound to collapse.
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@WyIted
The whole reason I wanted to leave was to create a new account, to return later. Still thinking about it, I just want to change my username and the email address associated with my account. I just asked Barney if there's a way to change that without starting a new account.
Regardless, I'm getting pretty busy IRL so I won't be around often.
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@Truth_Over_Proof
Are you SERIOUSLY going to just give in like that? The so-called EVIDENCE in question is just a video showing that there were people being gestured to. IS THAT ALL IT TAKES TO SWAY YOU!
Conceding one specific piece of evidence when I gave multiple is not going to result in me destroying my own argument.
I am not afraid of being wrong. Are you?
Videos can be altered. Have you ever heard of Photoshop?
Yes… do you have any evidence the video was photoshopped?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I can tolerate opposing opinions as long as those opinions are informed opinions.
We all know you don’t see any opposing viewpoints as well informed. Thanks for the admission, lol.
The rest of your blather wasn’t worth responding to. It was more of the same justification, insults and straw men.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
That’s completely counter to what Christians believe. Christians believe morality matters. Character matters. The problem is most Christians don’t live their so called beliefs.
Did I say they didn’t matter? No, I said they are second to policy, when deciding on a candidate whose policies can affect lives all around the world. This is exactly what I’m talking about when I say you can’t interpret arguments properly.
Yes, Biden has integrity.
Nepotistic business in Ukraine a such a display of integrity, isn’t it? So is sniffing kids’ hair, telling black voters their blackness depends on who they vote for, and letting your son smoke crack in the White House, apparently.
That’s why he has never been banned from running a charity.
Banned by people who have a political agenda against him lol.
He’s never been divorced
Good for Biden. He’s not 100% a failure. His stable marriage is one of the few things he has over Trump lol.
He never faked a disability to get out of the draft.
You have no proof the bone spurs were fake lol.
He hasn’t had dozens of his inner circle convicted of felonies in business and politics.
That’s easy when those who could convict the people in your circle are on your side.
He hasn’t amassed 30,000 lies and false statements in 4 years like Trump did.
I’m not going to pretend he’s always honest, let alone always right, but that’s a hilariously inflated number.
No “new evidence”. It’s the same video you always looked at.
After looking closer, I saw something in video that was new to me, that I hadn’t noticed the last time I saw the video months ago.
At least I’m open minded enough to admit my mistakes.
I think anyone who comes to ridiculous conclusions is a village idiot. I think people who can’t exercise critical thinking skills are village idiots.
So, anyone who disagrees with you, except you can’t seem to say it outright. Lol.
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@Greyparrot
Those first two are fine examples lol. I just conceded one specific example.
#3 could just be him pointing, and #4 isn't a problem. I don't see anything wrong with telling people you're about to hit the hay.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Why have a profile if it’s not going to be read? The purpose of the profile is to get an idea of the user’s background.
That background is to be used to get an idea of someone's positions on issues, or to simply get to know them. It is not meant to be used for personal attacks lol. But hold on, lemme adjust my profile so you know what to attack me on.
You’re a Christian and a Trump supporter. You support a man who fundamentally lacks integrity and has no respect for, or knowledge of, Christianity or any other religion. That makes you a fool.
And Biden does? Lol. I'm not going to pretend Trump is a bastion for morality. But I'm all about policy first. Character second. The candidate who will do the better job is the one with the better policies. Plain and simple. The candidate who doesn't will cause more harm to a nation than any mean tweets or past infidelity.
It’s case in point, genius.
Noted. You know what's also noted? The fact that you can't even issue a correction without some sort of insult. Case in point, again.
Are these all “case and points”? Lol
Non-argument.
What a moron you are. Biden is gesturing to the people to his right, he is not attempting to shake an invisible hand. You are pathetic. This is typical Republican fake scandal nonsense.
And I conceded that specific piece of evidence already, after seeing new evidence (thanks to Double_R, who can have a discussion without being a jerk) if you could stop raging for a second and read the posts around you, that would be great.
This is the kind of thing that only uneducated, Jerry Springer type audiences, would accept. The dummies of America. Now known as the MAGA Morons.
Non-argument.
Am I supposed to debate this with you? Should normal people spend time trying to explain things to the village idiots? No, it’s best to just make them aware that they are dummies and hope they realize they should just cut the grass and not try to offer their silly opinions.
Lol. You think anyone who disagrees with you on anything is a "village idiot." When we try to prove we are not, you close your ears and scream "la la la I can't hear you!" like a child.
You have convinced yourself you are right so much that you have closed your mind. Then, you take it another step further. Not only are you right and nothing can change your mind, but anyone who is wrong is not a misguided intellectual, but an idiot. On those grounds, you refuse to debate them, and never realize how intelligent some people actually are. You can say "I know you're an idiot because of what you say, so I don't need to debate you" but that's no good, since your mind is so closed you can't even properly interpret one's arguments, as demonstrated earlier in this thread. Your confirmation bias is so deep you don't even realize the mental echo chamber you've trapped yourself in.
Also, if there are so many village idiots, what's the point of being on this site? To tell them not to offer their opinions? Clearly that hasn't worked (many people you view as idiots are still here), so why bother with an exercise so pointless?
Furthermore, what happens if everyone you rage at leaves this site? Who are YOU going to give your opinions to then? People who already agree with you, since that's all that'll be left at that point. That's just an even bigger echo chamber. But hey, that's probably what you've wanted all along, since you clearly can't tolerate opposing opinions. They make you feel unsafe.
Again, a guy of your education level should stick to cutting grass or some other low skill task. You are no doctor or speech therapist. You never even graduated college and you believe in God which isn’t exactly a sign of intelligence.
As far as I know, neither you nor BK are speech therapists, either. And the rest of this garbage text is a non-argument.
Really? What kind of Republican are you then? A RINO?
One who doesn't like Fox News, since I recognize the fact that partisan bias has tainted national media on both the left and right. Fox News is right sometimes, but it also spews so much BS that real reasons to believe in conservative viewpoints are overlooked.
Anyway, do you have anything intellectually compelling to provide? Or are we done here?
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@Double_R
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If Biden did this you know republicans would be talking about it all the way to election day.
I'm sure Fox News would, but I am not one of those Republicans.
Never happened. But when you have a narrative to sell...
After looking closer at the clip, yeah he's definitely gesturing to the people off to the side. I'll concede that one piece of evidence. The rest however, still stands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59agcnLAj4&ab_channel=TheTelegraph
He is declining mentally, that's normal for a man in his 80's and concerning for a presidential candidate. But if we're comparing him to the man he's likely running against, it doesn't compare. At least Biden knows WW2 is over.
You are correct: It doesn't compare. Biden is far worse. As for the WWII remark, that's another Sioux Falls/City-type moment. Excusable. He knows the WWII is over, he meant to say WWIII.
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@Lemming
Interesting theory, but definitely not true. Jephthah definitely is guilty of the sin of human sacrifice. The greater message and context of Judges also points to this, even without taking the words “burnt offering” into account.
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@Best.Korea
That’s a nice way of saying, “I can’t prove my claim and I want to look like I’m winning here.”
Here is a clip of a younger Biden speaking: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cCZ5_XwqchE&pp=ygUWWW91bmcgYmlkZW4gc3R1dHRlcmluZw%3D%3D He even stutters a little bit in this clip. And guess what? It’s the normal stutter. So it is true, in fact, that his stuttering HAS gotten worse, and therefore, can be used as an example of his declining mental ability.
Not only have I fulfilled my BoP, you have failed to fulfill yours. You are wrong. Admit it.
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@Greyparrot
Fair enough.
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So you had a MAGA brain fart.
No, you just didn’t see the word “normally” (or at least didn’t pay enough attention to it).
I dont need to prove you wrong. You need to prove yourself right.
It should be a given fact that normal stuttering looks like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jk3AtlfWKQ&pp=ygUYd2hhdCBpcyBub3JtYWwgc3V0dGVyaW5n (there’s your proof by the way)
Since this is normal, the burden of proof to prove Biden’s stuttering hasn’t gotten worse is on you.
God, it’s like I am an advanced civilization playing versus a tribe.
Then it should be easy for you to fulfill your BoP, right? Still waiting.
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