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Hello all, and welcome to Indie Games Mafia!
This game is a 9-player setup that is based on indie games. Each player will be given an indie game as a character that represents their power role, and will involve a theme split. There is no Jester, or Third Party.
Rules: (Expect a lot of obvious mafia game rules that you already know about here.)
Players may not contact each other about the game aside from in-thread and game-approved PMs. Dead players contacting the living players to better spectate the game is acceptable as long as no information is revealed or hints/tips are given to the living player. However, I strongly prefer dead players contact me for information if they want to spectate. Dead players may contact other dead players.
Spectating players may not reveal information about this game (roles, characters, etc.) since all players can see it. Any players given inside information still relevant to the game cannot replace other players.
If a player is replaced out, they may not reveal information about this game (see above) unless I specifically allow them to replace someone in the game. Mafia players cannot become replacements. If a Town player replaces a Mafia player, their former player slot no longer wins with the Town.
Once a player is dead they may not communicate in-thread. They may still communicate in game approved PMs, however. Also, players may not talk after the DP has ended. During twilight it is fine to talk, but not after final vote count and flip are posted.
No players may C/P their role PM or fake doing so. If you post your role PM to claim, it must be paraphrased. Violators will be modkilled.
All questions to me about the game will be answered wherever they were posted as long as they can be answered without ruining the game. I can and will answer all hypotheticals, but cannot answer questions about unrevealed information, with a few exceptions that will already be specified at the start of the game without the need for players to ask about. Example: If a player asks if there is a cop in the game, I cannot confirm or deny that. I can, however, answer questions about how a cop would work if it were to be in the game, since that is a hypothetical.
The role a player gets will be the role that player gets. Do not ask me to have you swapped for something else, please. I will deny the request in all circumstances.
Please respect the other players around you. If violated, penalties may vary, but I will always give a warning first. This will be loosely enforced; I will only step in on the worst of circumstances, so don't expect me to do anything if someone merely mocks or teases you a little bit.
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@Vader
"I'd hate to see you go, but I'd love to watch you leave"
-DDO close account screen, referencing something idk
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It’s amazing how often today’s experts can be wrong.
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@Greyparrot
Bruh ur thread titles read like a Timcast video title.
Anyway, what are your thoughts on this?
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@ebuc
They { USSR } also invaded Afghanistan.
Afghanistan also could not defend itself militarily, and had no nukes at the time (not that I trust them with any). Your point?
Again peace keepers are like dogs, they only bark, until they bite, and given murphys law, that, anything that can occur { go wrong } given enough, time will go wrong
What Murphy's Law does not cover is how many incidents would happen over a period of time. We should not fear the rare and unlikely to the point we begin to make things inherently more likely even likelier. We have thousands of cities in this country where a mass shooting could happen, yet only a few happen every month across the country. Meanwhile, the amount of countries in the present and in history that have disarmed their people is few, but among them are some of the most corrupt governments in the world and world history. A government is more likely to oppress its people after disarming them than a mass shooting is to happen in a given city on any day (in addition, mass shooting statistics are often inflated with shoddy criteria, but that's beside the point).
Indeed, one could use Murphy's Law to argue anything based on the possibility of something terrible happening. For an extreme example, one could argue that we should ban planes, given that with enough time, someone will hack into all of them and cause every plane in the sky to fall. For a non-extreme example, one could call for a ban on cars because of car accidents.
Life on Earth cannot happen without risks. They are unavoidable. If we want to minimize risk, we must see what the risks and likelihoods are in our proposed scenarios, not just the current one.
Everything we do is a cost/benefit analysis. To me, the benefit of collective self-protection from a tyrannical government is worth any of the violent crimes we have now that happen with the weapons of our choice, especially when they can happen with any weapon, or almost anything improvised as a weapon. Furthermore, the idea of a benefit of security at the cost of freedom is a false pretense. Even if we are to miraculously secure ourselves from violent crime, us giving up our freedom will result in a lack of security from government tyranny.
It's as the saying goes: Those who give up liberty for safety, deserve neither. And as I would add: And they will have neither.
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@ebuc
And yet, Russia’s leash snapped after Ukraine got rid of the bombs. Interesting, isn’t it?
Again, apply that to US citizens owning guns.
Mind you, I’m not a huge foreign policy guy, but if you’re going to use foreign policy as a model for domestic policy, keep in mind the implications of your example of choice.
If I’m being honest anyway, it’s hard to argue some that countries removing nukes during the Cold War means we should get rid of our domestic guns. So even if the removal nukes helped things in some cases, keep in mind that foreign policy is not the same animal as domestic policy.
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True nothingness is beyond our comprehension.
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@ebuc
^^^ forgot to tag, my b
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Ukraine is one of those who dismantled them. Yay Ukraine.
I know we’re talking about bombs and foreign policy with your example here, but you do realize there is a real chance Ukraine never gets invaded today if they had some now, right?
It’s crazy how even a nation can make itself a target once it disarms itself, isn’t it? Now think about this concept as it applies to individuals and guns in the US.
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@n8nrgim
The dude may have also been drunk.
From this article:
Vianey Balderas, who lives across the street from the family, said she first heard gunshots that night when a few people were outside. About 20 minutes later, Balderas heard about five more gunshots, then another 10, she told The Post.“When I heard those gunshots, I didn’t think anything of it because in this neighborhood everyone has guns. Every weekend you hear gunshots,” she said in an interview in Spanish.“People shoot in their backyards, after they drink alcohol, men take out guns at house parties and shoot the ground.”
I find it funny how this article tries to place so much attention on the AR-15 (even laughably claiming it has “a unique ability to destroy the human body” as if no other weapon could do that), yet only has this little blip about the clear cultural issues at play here.
I bring these up because no, gun control will not stop things like these, or even reduce them. Criminals don’t follow gun laws, nor do they work to keep black market prices high for anything more than a short period of time, and we don’t even know how desperate criminals are to get their hands on one. If they’re desperate enough, no price will deter them. What will help is addressing cultural issues.
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@Lemming
Just work for money for college.
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@Tejretics
I respect you for doing this. Tournaments are cool and generate activity, but they take time to host.
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@oromagi
Off topic, but why do you refuse to capitalize the Is in your title?
Just curious. It’s a little strange to me.
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It’s almost summer, and college has been a pain this far. But, I’m doing fine grade-wise. I’m ready for summer.
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@Bella3sp
Good idea! Mike, you think you could code this?
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He's a media man. I doubt it.
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Also, I like how it's free to play and I don't have to buy anything. I'm not going to, either. The non-free skins look cool and all, but I don't care.
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Tried it out. It's pretty good. Started with DPS and am having a lot of fun. My main heroes are Bastion, Junkrat, Soldier, and Ashe.
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@whiteflame
@Bullish
Good luck!
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@cristo71
Yeah. What I find interesting about this is the latter article makes mention of legal ways to obtain a gun in Australia, showing that it wouldn't even happen with a complete gun ban, it happens easily with even "common sense" gun control measures.
Also, this part from the article is interesting:
Professor Bright said Australia's illegal firearm problems not only needed policing solutions, but also directed action to change embedded culture and behaviour.He pointed towards a Queensland government-funded program designed to help men leave the criminal life as an example."The task is: How do you make firearms less appealing to young men? How do you provide young men with alternative dispute resolution strategies that don't involve having guns?" Professor Bright said."How do you provide opportunities for men currently in the criminal life to get out of it if they want to?"
The idea that the gun violence problem in Australia is a product of cultural issues mirrors exactly what I was saying about how gang culture in the US is responsible for so many of our gun deaths.
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Plans have changed. Bullish will be the representative and Whiteflame will be his backup.
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@cristo71
The economic argument is half-baked.
1. If you're going to make an argument about the law of supply, you should also take into account the law of demand. Higher prices will make business profitable, and therefore more people will get in on the action, increasing the supply. According to the laws of supply and demand, when supply increases but demand remains constant, prices fall.
At best the prices would only work as a deterrent temporarily, until an equilibrium is reached. While the prices will likely still be slightly higher in the end, it won't be enough to deter black market sales, not by anything significant.
2. Demand may not be lower, even when the prices are high. While the prices will affect the demand, it won't be the only factor. Consider the citizens' supply of guns. If they just got their guns confiscated, they'll have none, and they're going to be in the market for new ones.
In addition, if a country cannot trust their people overall with firearms, and they take them away, there will be people who have never owned a gun that will be motivated to get one upon seeing the government do something so tyrannical.
Finally, criminals that do buy guns can cause more havoc now that their victims are unarmed. This will also cause many citizens to turn to the black market.
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@whiteflame
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Aight, you're my backup then.
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@ILikePie5
Don't you know? It's not a Title XI violation if you're competing against a real woman! How dare you question trans rights' to exist?!
Jokes aside, it's dumb. I know women's sports are generally less competitive, but stuff like this doesn't help. Or maybe it does, in that it generates buzz. Either way, I can't imagine the real women enjoy competing against men. Which is understandable, or course.
Did you see that photo of Lia Thomas at the start of the event? It went a little viral since he was several feet ahead of the women off of the opening jump into the pool. It illustrates why this whole thing is dumb perfectly.
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RM quit the site and Speedrace has been on hold for a really long time, so Imma remove them from the on hold list.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I used to host a rap battle tournament on DDO. I'd always get 8 sign-ups but only half of them actually participated. I stopped hosting it after 3 runs. I don't remember who won all of them; I only remember someone named Jonbonbon won the second one.
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Anyone have the time to be my backup? You likely won't have to do anything unless I miraculously make finals.
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@Lemming
"Flexible" is a good reason. But for me, I found it easy to memorize.
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@AustinL0926
Yes.... that's why I'm posting about it lol
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@Lemming
In chess, I'd often use the same opening movements,
This is why nearly all of the games with white on my Chess.com account open with the London System.
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@cristo71
Businesses are costly to start- this would be no different. If they achieve their goals (whatever they are) with them, they will see it as worth it. Especially if those goals include crimes against law-abiding citizens specifically.
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@cristo71
That’s irrelevant since the price will be worth it for those that want one to commit crimes.
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Discussing which guns are banworthy and which ones aren't is useless since criminals don't follow gun laws.
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