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@Melcharaz
@hey-yo
By tagging them.
But I think they've greeted us first with their username.
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@badger
Just looked it up. The story sounds like something that would happen on Reddit.
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@badger
Yeah. Should we even make mafia a competitive community? I know there's always salt in endgame threads, but I think most people are still playing for fun.
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@Mikal
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Come to think of it, how would we award elo for mafia vs. town winners? We're dealing with 2v7s here, not 5v5s.
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@badger
for mafia it'd be a joke because team game.
Oooooooh good point. Nobody is going to be happy losing elo because their teammate threw.
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@Mikal
If you are 1500 , it will match you with people around the same elo. Then likely calculates an average elo for your team and the enemy team. If enemy team average is 1555 and your Elo is 1500 then the loss or win is against the 1555. (This is me assuming)
My point is I don't think we have enough players for elo to be a factor in matchmaking. Most of our games are 9-12 players, and it usually takes a while to fill just one game to get it off the ground.
We could start an elo system to attract more players from elsewhere, but we're not going to be able to use it for matchmaking until our playerbase increases in size.
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@Mikal
How would a mafia elo work? If it's just for bragging rights I'm all for it, but I don't think we can have any sbmm. We rotate between the same 20ish people here.
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Oh for the love. They were fringe lunatics that staged what could barely be called a "riot."
Here we are, two years later, and the political show is still going on.
Show them the man, they'll show you the crime, I guess.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Oh, you mean ideal man.
Husband, father, leader who loves his family.
Will stand up for what is right. Is fit to fight, but has the moral sense to use the pen first, and is slow to anger.
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Based. Would be mega based if they extended the ban to adults.
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@ILikePie5
I like WWII
I'm aware lol.
You could do one for WWI weapons as well.
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Hey, at least this AI didn't turn into a neo-Nazi.
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@Reece101
Glass windows especially.
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Cool, a new forum. Dunno how often I'll use it, but it's nice to have.
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@Skipper_Sr
There's good and bad. I'll elaborate later.
It's nice to see an update happen, though.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Decent troll ngl
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@Vader
I wish to never lose in anything gambling related
Granted, but you never win either. You constantly break even, only to realize you have wasted hours of your time every time you gamble.
I wish for yet another bagel.
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@FLRW
No, but it's fun to predict sportball things.
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Shoot! So close to getting the final score right, too!
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@PREZ-HILTON
I wish for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl so that the Eagles fans stfu
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Current Mafia:
ILikePie5 - U.S. Governors Mafia
Signups:
N/A
In the Hopper:
N/A
On Hold:
Supa - tbd
RationalMadman - Well-known Autistic Spectrum people
Speedrace - MCU Disney+ Shows Mafia
Earth - Skyrim Mafia
Mharman - Indie Games Mafia
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Halftime: It's not looking good, boys
Oh, and the Chiefs aren't doing too well either.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You can’t debate bigots.
Try telling that to a former neo-Nazi. There are plenty of them, here’s one particular example: https://qz.com/1457014/to-deradicalize-extremists-former-neo-nazis-use-a-radical-method-empathy
She was once a bigot, but someone convinced her stop being one, and that someone did it by being kind. You would have simply berated her, and she would’ve dug her heels in as a response.
How are you going to convince anyone when you won’t even listen to them? You can’t. When you refuse to listen, you create strawmans and attack those instead. That doesn’t convince anyone. Worst part is, you don’t even try to be convincing because you hold the blatantly false belief that “they cannot be convinced,” despite the vast amount of examples proving the contrary.
Bigotry may not be welcome here, but it is tolerated up to a certain point. It has to be this way for a debate website where people are aiming to convince each other. No, arguing against something isn’t intolerance. Banning users, or berating them without an attempt to to have an honest discussion, would be.
Furthermore, the fact that think my statements are bigoted shows you don’t understand them. You spent a long time telling yourself not to debate with bigots, and as a result, you have created of yourself a one-man echo chamber where almost everyone is bigoted. Then you refuse to have an honest discussion with anyone who disagrees with you in the slightest, even when they tend to agree with you, because they are “bigots.”
The problem is, you can’t label someone a bigot and refuse to listen to them in the same breath. How can you tell if someone is a bigot when you don’t even make an attempt to understand them? You can’t.
I am not saying it is ok to call an Irishman a “Mick.” Quite the opposite. My point is that race and gender identity are not the same thing, so your comparison is foolish.
If you had made an honest attempt to listen to me, you would have understood this. Instead, you chose to berate rather than convince based on a series of false assumptions.
I offer you one more chance: Are you going to stop this and listen for the sake of rationality, or are you going to continue your objectively terrible methods?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You aren’t. If anything, you’re harming yourself. You’re dismissing an honest conversation because you are so convinced you are right that you are unwilling to listen to anything else.
Apparently, you think anyone who disagrees with you should be converted not with logic, but with shaming tactics. They are ignorant, and it is the Progressive’s Burden to bring them to enlightenment, by any means necessary.
It’s pretty clear that you don’t debate with intention to find truth and/or change minds; you debate with intention to try to make the other person look foolish. It’s pretty sad how signed up for a debate website and decided to make all your “arguments” in bad faith. After all, it doesn’t come off as arguing in good faith when one tells so many people their opposing opinions are “unwelcome,” on a site made with the purpose of holding talks between people with opposing opinions.
You go on so much about “ignorance,” but what happens when you see everyone who disagrees with you, even in the slightest, as simply “ignorant?” It’s pretty clear that you see a large portion of this site, and country, as such. Anyone right-leaning, as well as anyone who isn’t left-leaning enough, are barely logical savages who must be brought to civility.
You’ve derided plenty of right-wingers and plenty of left-wingers who disagreed with you on a single subject. Consider this: Could it be that you are ignorant, since you are so unwilling to listen to others? Such stubbornness often leads to ignorance, so it wouldn’t be a surprise.
But of course, despite all you have said, I invite you to change this behavior of yours, because I hope you ultimately realize how harmful this kind of arguing is to genuine truth-seeking. I will ask again: Could you please be more civil?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
See above post.
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@Sidewalker
A Goodyear blimp? Damn NASCAR-loving Martians! Wasn't abducting Kurt Busch enough for them?!
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Way to identify yourself as a moron to a bunch of strangers.I suppose you think being gay is a disorder too.But I see you are a Christian which is synonymous with ignorance and intolerance. I think believing in God is a disorder.But calling an Irishman a Mick is ok, right?
It's a bit hard to answer a question when the person across from you already has contempt for you, and seems unwilling to listen to you or interpret your arguments in a way that is fair. None of what you said sounds like an argument designed to discuss the issue honestly; it sounds like bitterness, and despite past interactions I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you want an honest discussion. Could you re-word your argument in a way that attempts to achieve this?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Comparing transgenders to an ethnic group is a bit silly.
One of these things you were born with. The other, is a choice made when one neglects a specific mental issue.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Dammit, now the Martians are spying on us too :/
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Theologians mafia
Historical Monarchs mafia
Slain Journalists mafia
WWII Tanks & Planes mafia
Medications mafia
Ice Cream Flavors mafia
Five Families mafia (using famous Italian mafia members)
Gangsters mafia (expanded version of the above to include other gangs)
Regular Show mafia
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@thett3
The girls who came to us had many comorbidities: depression, anxiety, ADHD, eating disorders, obesity. Many were diagnosed with autism, or had autism-like symptoms. A report last year on a British pediatric transgender center found that about one-third of the patients referred there were on the autism spectrum. Frequently, our patients declared they had disorders that no one believed they had. We had patients who said they had Tourette syndrome (but they didn’t); that they had tic disorders (but they didn’t); that they had multiple personalities (but they didn’t)The doctors privately recognized these false self-diagnoses as a manifestation of social contagion. They even acknowledged that suicide has an element of social contagion. But when I said the clusters of girls streaming into our service looked as if their gender issues might be a manifestation of social contagion, the doctors said gender identity reflected something innate
I’ve never understood how people can genuinely argue transgenderism isn’t a mental disorder when they see stuff like this.
It’s of no surprise that the transgenderism has spread as a social contagion. You take individuals with pre-existing mental disorders, combine them with adolescent immaturity, and progressive ideology that tells us identity is everything, and you get this.
Have you heard of BIID?
To begin transitioning, the girls needed a letter of support from a therapist—usually one we recommended—who they had to see only once or twice for the green light. To make it more efficient for the therapists, we offered them a template for how to write a letter in support of transition. The next stop was a single visit to the endocrinologist for a testosterone
I’m not sure there are even words to describe how fucked up that is.
If the words of the author are to be taken at face value, then this a blatant quid pro quo between the therapists and the transgender center. It shows they are completely willing to scratch each others’ backs and exploit mentally ill individuals, who happen to be minors no less, for profit.
We found out later this girl had had intercourse, and because testosterone thins the vaginal tissues, her vaginal canal had ripped open. She had to be sedated and given surgery to repair the damage. She wasn’t the only vaginal laceration case we heard about.Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and grows into what looks like a microphallus, or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged clitoris now extended below her vulva, and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female. At the end of the call I thought to myself, “Wow, we hurt this kid.”
Holy fucking shit. This, I am actually speechless about.
"That same thought came up again with another case. This one was in spring of 2022 and concerned a young man who had intense obsessive-compulsive disorder that manifested as a desire to cut off his penis after he masturbated. This patient expressed no gender dysphoria, but he got hormones, too. I asked the doctor what protocol he was following, but I never got a straight answer. "
The fact that these doctors can still do this as a profession and NOT be afraid of being tossed in a cell to rot away for the rest of their lives is astounding. Why the FUCK is any of this shit legal? And how the FUCK did this shit receive government funding? The author said the center belonged to the University of Washington, so who the FUCK approved this?!
Unfortunately, experts can be just as ideologically blinded as the rest of us
I’m going back to this because it resonated with me. Well said. This sentence alone could become a whole essay easily.
Thanks for posting this. I could tell where was a lot of thought behind it. The linked article was eye-opening to me, despite me being someone who has always opposed transgenderism. I knew it was bad, but this bad? Wow.
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So EA had the Eagles winning in their official Madden 23 Simulation…
Which is good news for Chiefs fans, statistically speaking.
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@Athias
Congratulations LeBron James, you're almost the greatest of all time.
Accurate. I think there is reason to put Jordan, Bryant, and Abdul-Jabbar ahead of James.
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@badger
If you can figure out what it is that’s giving you those off the cuff reads and explain them to the town, you will be extremely scary for scum teams.
Heck, you had me a little worried DP1.
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@RationalMadman
First game supa played truly well. Congrats to Supa.
Yeah he played better than me this game.
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Nah, I was hoping y’all would kill me instead of Earth. I thought Luna was scum with Supa
The plan in case you were actually Watcher was to let myself get lynched after killing Earth, give Supa the town cred, then Supa kills you, and Supa convinces Lunatic, who was townreading Supa and suspecting an Austin-me team, to not change in opinion.
I was trying to make sure people knew I was town-reading Austin late into DP2 for that reason; I was trying to play into Lunatic's reasoning.
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@ILikePie5
Idt anybody would’ve noticed if y’all didn’t bring it up
Yeah, I was so convinced it would've been noticed at the time. As it turns out, it is incredibly easy think you're screwed when you're not as scum. Ya see every mistake you make and think "oh, town sees it"
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@PREZ-HILTON
Looking at the setup, I feel like it was a little town-sided. It would've been worse if it was a 9-player setup, but 8-player grants the argument that scum can win in one less DP.
I will say though, if Pie was actually survivor it would've been really scum-sided.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Plus even if it was a scum slip, there was no reason to think anybody noticed.
I know, Supa was right about that, too. And here I was typing in the chat "SUPA FUCKING HARD BUS ME ASAP" lol.
Normally, convincing Supa to bus me could've screwed us both over, in retrospective. I wonder if I lucked into giving Pie the green light to cause some chaos.
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@AustinL0926
ngl, you were the person that I felt could've screwed us over the most if the game kept going. You perfectly called that Supa was bussing me.
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@ILikePie5
@PREZ-HILTON
The tags on this thread LMAOOOOO
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The slip I made was real btw. I was emulating my town play near-perfectly until I made that slip
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