Mharman

Until tomorrow, yes. Then you wait 'till after Thanksgiving to start blaring Christmas music.

I want to smash every speaker playing Christmas music in October. Unfortunately for my ears, I respect the law.

I'm going with Detroit. They're bad in 3 of the 4 major leagues they have a pro team in. Their one saving grace is that the Red Wings are mid, not trash.

The last thing I bought was a new winter coat. Getting cold, isn't it?

JOE MAMA!!!!!!11!!!1!!

Hopefully Joe.

Imma be real with you chief. I ain't learning Esperanto.

I should've said this in the endgame thread, but no one will read it if I put it in there now.

DP1 of Conspiracy Theory Mafia was a complete mess and I wish I saw how ugly that DP was getting before I ended it. I took plenty of time out of my day to design and host that game, but I couldn't take anymore time to do more than skim the DP and update the vote counts. I simply do not have the time to sit in front of a mafia game all day, watching everything going on. So with that being said, please ping me if something like this ever happens again. I will do something about it. I want my games to be fun for people, not rage-inducing to them. I can't stop endgame thread salt, but I can at least try to keep players from distracting the whole DP and angering everyone during the game.

Anyways, RM clearly had a problem controlling his temper here, and it distracted everyone. I'd like to think he's getting better with this, and maybe his is overall, but I cannot trust him at this moment in time to stay chill during what is just a forum game. I understand why it is harder for him than everyone else to stay calm during a mafia game, and I have been turning the other cheek for him more than I would for anyone else on this site because of it. However, that is not an excuse for what he did in this game. He has done this repeatedly in other people's games as well. I know it may be hard when being egged on by others (more on that later), but at the end of the day RM exploded far beyond what anyone was doing him in that thread. As such, RM is banned from the next game I host.

Now, to be fair, Pie had no business egging him on in that thread. I'm okay with banter, but Pie was clearly trying to bait RM into exploding whilst knowing full well that RM would do so. All he did was anger himself and everyone else in the process. You can call it a mafia strategy all you want; I don't care. If your strategy as a mafioso is to push everyone to the point where they've had it, then you need to find a new one. As such, Pie has received a warning for my future games.

I don't like doing this because it's not fun for me, but I am doing this because I want my games to be fun for everyone playing in them. Say what you will, but I think we can all agree that the next game of mine will be more fun without two players flaming each other constantly.

I hope this thread doesn't constitute being a call-out thread, as my intention was to let people know what I am doing about what happened back there. Mods, if it is, sorry. This needed to be said.

/out, maybe I'll go back in later

I don't think every player in that game is inferior to RM's intelligence. Some of them are at least on par with him. It's entirely stupid to play into ad homs like "you're not as smart as I am, so you need to listen to me." Especially if that person turns out to be mafia.

Feel free to put yourself ahead of me, if you want.

This I can agree with.

Sometimes, yeah. Thing is, you could be literal Einstein and still be wrong sometimes. As for this plan of this,  I don't think having town out all their PRs was the play, even from the perspective of someone who didn't know the entire setup. It always gives the Mafia way too much information to work with for the Town. I think he would've naturally got enough info just by waiting for players to be hit with pressure.

in.

Yeah. That's where I think a Watcher or Clairvoyant would've helped. Alarmist too.

You're up. Go ahead when ready; I won't be for a bit.

No one gets a personal best every time.

I like the attitude on this guy :)

Live and learn :)

You're certainly improving.

Or is it????

It's the endgame

Pie is the MVP of this game.

The theme split was "Globalism vs. All Else." I'm sure all these have been said to be part of a globalist conspiracy by conspiracy theorists, but the New World Order is the only one where it's explicit.

I'd say this setup turned out to be scum-sided. It wasn't egregiously so, but I feel like I could've done better. The idea was to load town up with power and then provide a single mafioso to the chance to recruit one of them so they could use it for themselves. Looking back, I probably should've added an eighth player slot (preferably a Town Watcher or Clairvoyant) to give the Town one more guaranteed DP. That would've made this setup truly balanced, in my opinion. I'll give town at least three guaranteed DPs my future games.

In DP1, RM had a great idea to use his vanillaizer to confirm himself as Town, but he made a mistake outting that plan DP1. His gut read was right on Pie too, but he wasn't able to build a good case for it. Pie did a good job refuting the case without slipping up, and Town backed off on their inquiries of him. He didn't have to do an amazing job, either; RM was so hell-bent on proving Pie to be scum that he pushed town away from his correct read. RM did have a good idea asking the Town about the political wing their theory was on, though. It was off the mark, but it wouldn't have hurt. If anything, it would've limited Pie's fake claim choices. Unfortunately, RM went too far by asking everyone to out their character for his theories, and no one listened to him on theme split theories after that. Greyparrot made a mistake outting his character so easily, but he got away with it. Earth's character claim was fine because they were a Vanilla. Town made a mistake pressuring Whiteflame into claiming, and Pie took advantage and added to the pressure. I don't blame Whiteflame for claiming, given the pressure. Pie's fake character claim was mid, but it didn't matter. I'm not sure why the Town was sussing Supa, but he was lynched regardless.

NP1, Pie correctly speculated that Greyparrot was the Cop and that Whiteflame was the Doctor, but he took Barney instead. I think he should've taken Greyparrot, but whatever. Greyparrot's investigation into Whiteflame was a waste in my eyes, given that Whiteflame was a claimed Doctor. Whiteflame's protection of Barney was the right play from the information he had, but it ultimately didn't matter. I think Barney's vanillaization of Pie was ok, given he had little to lose in doing so.

DP2, Town had a bloc that included everyone but That2, Earth, and Pie; Barney didn't have to do much to hide in that bloc. I'm just confused by the defenses That2 and Earth put up, as neither were sufficient. If both had put up a better defense, the Town would've probably looked at Pie a bit more. Neither did, and the Town chose Earth. Pie's VIP claim was okay. Greyparrot definitely hammered too early when there was plenty of the DP left.

NP2, Greyparrot had the right idea to investigate Pie, and Whiteflame's self-protection wasn't a bad idea either. Unfortunately for the Town, Pie saw it coming, so he decided to kill That2.

Now THAT is an idea!

ScottyDouglas = The GOAT

Imma go with the Shila bot thread

Will that be in this thread?

@Mods, lock the thread; please and thank you.

No, to avoid sham trials and coerced confessions. This is based on the idea that if someone is coerced to confess, their confession isn't reliable. At its core, it's an amendment designed to protect the innocent who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances (see Ohio v. Reiner).

For the exact reason the Fifth Amendment exists.

That2 (1/4) - Earth

Earth (1/4) - That2

So is 4.

3 on the other hand, is a great number.

Internet Archive's Wayback Machine might be of help here. Lemme know if it works on DART.

That2 (1/4) -  Earth

Pie (1/4) - That2

The number 34 is mid-tier.

Shouldn't 3RU7AL be at 10?

^Funny Weird Al song

Hello, and welcome to DP2!

Barney has replaced in for RationalMadman.

Certified "This is how we get a civil war" Moment

I like this thread.

May one of you lock this thread, please? Thank you in advance.

Pie (1/4) - RM

VTNL (1/4) - Supa

On it.