Mikal

WF thematically checks out. Does feel like that claim came off a wiki page though. 

We are committed at this point, but this statement is fucking horrifying lol

I read that and immediately thought scum slip. I am going to lmfao if you and wylted are driving us off a cliff and somehow you waived the same night luna protected. God that would be great. 

If you and wylted are telling the truth, you will get a result regardless. There is a target that just confirms enough people for the game to be solved 

I don't think so. I think there is a very easy solve assuming you are wylted are not lying that should borderline end the game. 

I kind of want to just say it but not sure what scum has that can affect it. Hoping he sees it

Repeating, there is a solve for this that cannot be stopped if pie puts 2 and 2 together. 

I think i am overthinking and she is going to flip scum, but on the off chance she flips town, you guys still have a solve. Don't want to type it, just pointing out it's there. 

Did not know that and that sucks cus it means it's Casey or RM. 

If she does flip town, do you see the solve? 

She said S first dayphase and I said bite me. Cus I thought it was serena and I think she picked up on it. 

Wait what? if you investigated RM he would not have not got results????

That is fine. I will die in poe whenever. If you are confirming RM with a cop result, I know she is going to flip scum. If RM is a godfather who yolo claimed a dreamer in the first hour with a semi popular character and didnt get cced, then well played. 

I will die in POE whenever you guys want after that, but I'd like to weigh in on WFS and ultras claim for theme/fun

you want Casey or I first. 

If you kill me just make WF or Ultra claim so I can check their lore before I get yeeted please. I would like to nail the other scum before this ends for my own mental

To clear the only thing I care about is being right and solving games and I'm confident enough to think I solved it. So I'm happy with dying whenever. If you want me before casey, I'm fine with that. 

Putting it here to stroke my ego when the game is over or just feel outright shame for being led on by wylted and pie somehow

mason - wylted

pie - cop

luna - doc

me - town

rm - dreamer

Casey - Serena (believe the character) - Scum

Wf 

Ultra - lynch these 2

Theme is prob dlc vs not

Insert mental bust here

I didn't see the innocent part until you mentioned it. I just saw where he had a result and said he had reason to sus earth. I was arguing with earth half the DP so if im being honest. I was skimming major points more than paying attention to hyper details. 

If he said he got an inno, then yeah. He had to have got RM because why would he not

Anyway I will wait for pie to confirm and if everyone is good with it we force WF and Ultra to claim to lock them into shit. Then you can just pick who you want at that point. 

With you stopping the NK, I can't think of another scenario. You would have to waive and know there is no protective role in game. blah blah.

This was my theory off the rip and never trust my gut enough so sticking with it. Only world where this is fake if is wylted and PIE are both scum and they would have had to have waived the nk? Just doesn't make sense. Occams razor and going with my initial read as I think it solves the game. 

well changed it after you mentioned it because you validated my backup thought and tbh it just makes more sense as he just catches rm outright in a lie or promises a lynch between 2 people because he would know wylted is town (cus hes in a mason pm with him and wylted not dead)

Based on Pie only seeming to focus on casey or I. I assumed he got a guilty on case (and maybe thinks hes gf), or he investigated RM. Initially I thought it was Casey as he said he had more of a reason to sus him and he was leaning into the guilty and just considering god father but he had me in the POE. So i changed that to think he got RM as it's confirmation between two scum and he just scum reads casey behavior wise. 

I just don't think he hit one of the other two with how he was talking

Still think we get full claims from WF and Ultra before the end of the DP just to lock them into results and narrow down poe. 

or to add to that. When casey flips if dreamer confirms more than 1, you can pick between me and the other 2. 

Pretty sure game is solved and I gave enough info to be happy so im pretty solid to die whenever. 

Now that luna says it, makes more sense for pie to cop RM as he confirms the result so I am operating under that assumption so you guys can pick casey or me. I am fine with with dying wherever. I'd much rather it be casey obviously lol

But if I am right, i think we all mass claim and I think the rest will stick out like a sore thumb tbh

Yeah I am fine with dying in poe. If theory is correct, it won't matter

I am not leaving them out? I am saying it's Casey or Me. I know I am town so when Casey flips it confirms me and RM. Last scum is between those 2. What do I need to analyze at that point?

I dont think there is an evil or good split. It could be but my character is basically an assassin in game lol and kinda a dickhead and a thalamor ambassador. That is why I said I don't think scum would find the theme and it's not just like alduin vs (x). 

Serena as scum would mean dawnguard vs x, but there is not enough characters to really do that. So it's likely DLC vs x

I think you force a full claim and when casey does flip scum. (I believe the Serena claim) because they softed this

the roles are also intertwined if pie is telling the ruth, like they claimed virgin instead of martry

I think the theme is prob dlc characters vs not. 

I have no idea what I am missing. I am not considering myself becuase i am town. I am not making a case for myself. If you guys want to lynch me from poe, im fine with that. 

Pie - Cop

Wylted - Mason

you - doc

if this is confirmed

Wylted and pie confirm each other and you are the reason there is no nk

If Pie got a guilty on casey, you lynch casey and I'm confirmed with RM

if he got an innocent on RM. You lynch between Casey or Me. Obviously I want casey as this town locks me and RM

Then you just poe from the last 2

What am I missing?

like no matter who they target. They have to kill 3 people

you- are the reason there is  no nk. If that theory is true, I don't think you could fabricate and waive a nk

pie would be cop - who is confirmed by mason

mason - would be confirmed by pie

Only way this does not resolve is if there is a scum recruit which earth said there is no TP. So maybe mafia could have a recruit but I doubt it

Likely all 3 of you are town locked and you lynch from poe. 

yeah but if theory is correct. Mason would die, so pie is town locked. I just don't think wylted wanted to say that and was making them guess. Game won't go on that long, and I am fine with dieing somewhere in that process as my thoughts are out and I think I solved it. 

It's not scummy. If that is true, you full claim, out the results the game is done. Caseys flip confirms two people. 

last scum will stick out between Wf and AFK guy

I sat on this since DP1, just think it's relevant now since you claimed doc and we can actually narrow it down

Either way if Pie confirms. I know I am town, so casey flipping confirms me and RM. Assuming whether he picked RM or Casey

don't matter at this point

If he picked RM, it's casey which is why he is only focusing on that poe. 

that is fair, it's also an innocent on you know who and you have a lynch pool off that result unless he's gf

Why I was also pissed at earth for not just saying no fake claims and making me drudge to many brain cells on whether he changed it or not. He would have said that, would have dropped the wylted thing ages ago. 

That was what I meant I could solve DP1. Just wanted to get more information before I said it out loud. Casey flips scum , theme is prob dlc vs no dlc and everyone has soft locked on a claim. Not that it even matters, we the pool is just wf or the afk guy

Mason - Confirm

Cop - Confirm

Doc - Confirm

Pie has a guilty on casey 

If casey flips guilty it confirms RM, also confirming me

scum is between WF and Ultra. Game is over

Had this theory from DP 1 but wanted to sit on it, what what you said. I think we have enough of a town block that we can operate off a mass claim. I am just pushing it a long

POE

I think we have enough to end the game if that's actually true. It wont matter. There is a town block of 3 and we have a protect with no CC of the doctor. Game is over if that's the case. Just lynch casey to confirm RMS dream, if he flips scum. I am clear. If not lynch me

Doubt they will confirm this either way but it heavily limits poe. I think pie got a guilty on casey and shared it with wylted in the mason pm

Mason confirms pie - they are gambling to make scum guess who to target. If wylted dies, it would confirm pie regardless and pie is saving his result for that reason

Want to think more but what I actually think is happening is wylted is not cop. I think Pie is cop and wylted is mason

Want to think more but what I actually think is happening is wylted is not cop. I think Pie is cop and wylted is mason

so yeah

I have to decide whether it's RM or Casey

that or you both are scum and could have waived to build a doc claim but that would assume you were fed fake claims which the mod says didn't happen. 

Have to buy that. 

I think Pie said something very important that gives away a lot. I would love to hear what luna says to break this down more but I have a sneaking theory about what is actually happening. 

how sure are you pie is town. Can you say for certain. I've asked this before because I want an honest answer. 

I have a larger theory about what is actually happening here, and don't want to say it because I think it kills a gambit i suspect is happening

I would like to know how you are so sure, cus I feel like you would think harder on pie and wylted as just roflingstomping us as some of the points I brought up are still very valid and I've only dropped them becuase you confirmation of pie clears wylted. 

I likely am overthinking and it's just casey but I have no choice but to put wylted away with luna confirming pie. It's not even possible he's scum if pie is confirmed town

Would you claim?

I can't shake this pie wylted thing. The only thing that is making me not go after them is your confirmation. Keep in mind if you are wrong, they are just going to lead the game. Imagine they both are scum (they know casey and I are town). They will lynch one of us and then turn RMS dreamer result on the other. and then its gg. 

Only reason I am not looking at this more is you are confirming pie and that totally negates that possibility if you are correct. 

Pie Wylted - (very unlikey)

Pie - Luna (cannot exist)

Casey (+1)

Rm (+1) - Rm + luna would be very interesting as luna can totally build fake claims

RM - has town cred for the instant claim and mod confirmation there is no fake claims. So a lot of this from behavior and the instant claim is making me think casey. I am pretty stuck on that because of the circle jerk between luna wylted and pie.