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@Lunatic
I don’t even think that’s the selling point. The insta kill to me is his confirming to me. I asked and put the posts above. Did the mod tell you, you were a category and he said yes. After I said “can you confirm this”
I dm Mharm
“Can you confirm if I’m a category”
“I can’t confirm that for players” - and links me the wiki. It’s just a direct contradiction. So either mod goof or he slipped. But I’ll take either one because it’s an outright lie.
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@Casey_Risk
I’m town lock and was heavy pushing a bus on Luna.
High probability scum wants to join the bus.
So if he flips scum, I think Luna is town lock. No reason for Luna to bus him out of no where. Could have redirected to anyone but just to trade a scum teammate for a town read when he’s already still sus and prob would still be sus. Doesn’t make sense
If Luna is town locked. Someone joining my wagon (albeit for different reasons ) is prob scum since 4 or 5 people were wanting to kill him.
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Yeah I’m down to kill supa. There are like 12 variations and no reason for Mharm to just focus on the copper portion of it. He would have just said his role is copper short sword.
I would reconsider this but the fact that supa is saying the mod told him that he’s not a category when the literal wiki says he is and the mod told me he could not answer this for players and links me the wiki.
Just no lol.
If he flips town. I am not even sure what to say but not a single bit of this is consistent or logical.
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@Vader
He word for word said.
I cannot answer questions like this for a player and linked the wiki
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@Vader
Please full claim. I am prob not moving off you but this is your once chance to defend yourself. Role, and paraphrase
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I think that town locks Luna. I don’t think Luna would buss his buddy out of no where to stop his own lynch. Much less he was saying he slipped but for the wrong reasons
I supa flips scum. Should town lock Luna and that means another scum is between
Wf
You
Casey.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
So my item does not have a category period. In the pm it was looked like 2 words when it really should’ve been 1. So no I have 0 sub category
1) he was on the wiki. He could see it was a category. The literal wiki as you posted, is CATEGORY short swords lmao.
2) he said the mold him he was not a category. 341 and 354
3) I asked Mharm was I category or did I have tiers. He said he could not confirm and linked me to the wiki. Contradicts (2)
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@ResurgetExFavilla
He said the mod told him This and he was an item in the game.
He’s not an item in the game at all and if the mod told him that then the mod fucked up lol. But I don’t think Mharm did that because I asked him was I a category or did I have tiers. Said he could not say and linked me the wiki.
All of this is wrong.
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Going to redo this because I got a mod clarification. I have no identifier and appearantly I read this wrong. So my item does not have a category period. In the pm it was looked like 2 words when it really should’ve been 1. So no I have 0 sub category
I did not catch this earlier. You slipped but not in the way Luna thought. This is factually wrong.
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@Vader
If your pm said it has multiple tiers, why did you say you could not have that earlier and just were an item and the mod told you that
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@Vader
I don’t want to tunnel you but I need you to clarify
1) you said you were and item, short swords is not an item. It’s a category of items. you even explicitly said you did not have tiers and just were an item. None of that is correct
2) you said the mod told you this and when i asked him the same question, he said he could not answer and linked me to the wiki
Please explain these for me before I actually tunnel you because none of that is consistent or makes sense
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@Vader
Okay so short is a category
It’s literally the equivalent of an axe being iron, gold, etc
Short sword is that
It has copper, gladius, etc
There is a whole fuck ton of short swords and short sword to my knowledge isn’t even an item in the game.
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@Vader
Mharm told you, you weren’t a category? When your pm said you had tiers of that category.
What, bro you are actually making me second guess myself now
It’s the fact you said Mharm answered for you when he i asked the same thing and he linked me the wiki
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But supa said Mharm told him directly he was not a category. He is lol
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I low-key thing he’s lying now. I asked Mharm was my character a category or had tiers. Said he could not tell me and linked me the wiki
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@Vader
What
I literally do not understand this at all
1) you have tiers and you are saying the mod said you didn’t?
2) your pm says something about tiers?
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@ResurgetExFavilla
I mean when I say I remember him doing this as scum all the time. I was referring to live mafia games because him and I both did it non stop
That being said he did tweak out on RM DP1 as town if you consider that to be similar to this
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@Vader
Confirming again. Mharm said you did not have tiered items?
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@ResurgetExFavilla
This is more of what I’m basing my thoughts on When I say meta
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@Vader
The supa post is my first actual behavior read on him and I agree. It’s odd to latch on to that. I think supa was trying to figure out if he classified as a category and Mharm prob gave him wrong info and didn’t explain it right. You don’t have to be an item that has tiers. You can just be an item with no tiers and I’m assuming that’s what supa is trying to say but having no idea how to articulate it.
Supa you said bingo to this. You said Mharm gave you info about your character. Did he say you were a sole item?
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@Vader
You said you asked Mharm if you were a category correct?
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Or survival games to be clear. Shortsword is a category that splits into tiers
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Also I think supa is town. He is a category. He just has no idea how the game works lol
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@Lunatic
I saw it happen with RM but I’m saying you getting hard focused and crash out and saying fuck it.
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@Lunatic
point to me a game where you crashed out as town and I’ll consider backing off. Like crashed out for being scum read. I agree I would crash out but I do it was more often as scum. When my town meta is just if you want to lynch me for it, go ahead and I’ll lol
But the above read as totally giving up and if you point me to a town crash out when you are being read as scum. It will back me off. Me and you both are notorious about this as scum
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Also to note, the reason I was continuing the category thing was to see who would jump on a Luna wagon. After he claimed it somewhat made sense, not fully and it seems weird but a claim was enough for me to back off. So was interested in who would try and push him with me.
I just did expect the response he gave. I started reading him as scum for his role. Then we he claimed I was willing to pull back after i saw his wagon but now the response seems overly defensive and I’m now reading him as scum off behavior.
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@Lunatic
I’ll eat it if im wrong
I think there is a lot to consider.
1) you claimed with really on me pressuring you to get me off you. No one else was really buying it fully. That reads me as odd
2) you immediately deflect onto supa to try and get people off you. Granted you would do this as town sure, but that entire interaction came off as please just leave me alone when I think it’s easy to assume there was an explanation for why supa said and did what he did. He was responding to me asking him for a category and already said he had 0 idea about the game. So him being on wiki trying to figure that out makes sense. I think town Luna prob would at least consider things like this instead of immediately trying to deflect
3) we both tend to get annoyed when people won’t listen or we are getting tunneled. If I can recall town you, doesn’t throw your hands up and get pissed. They actually try and justify a reason why the reads are wrong. If you can point me to a game where you have ever rage quit as town, I’ll backtrack but I’m like 90 percent sure this both our scum metas and you call me out on it all the time
4) there are parts about your pm I don’t like. The justification does make sense to a degree but the this wording and other parts, seem very inconsistent with mine. He seemed like he kinda half assed the justification and it reads nothing like how it would read from the wiki when yours is almost a carbon copy.
That being said you are scum, and flip scum. The bigger question to me is why not use the fake claim. Or maybe that was the fake claim and it’s why you’re mad. Not sure. But I def and just pinging scum with you. I do agree I tend to do a good job at knowing when you are town and this doesn’t feel town.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Im Notorious for it and I know he does it as well. I feel like it may be happening here cus it’s dp1. When scum Luna can eat a bus he will but there is no real chance to.
I’m going to read through some other games
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That to me comes off as scum Luna to answer skeps question earlier. I may be wrong and I’d have to go look but I feel like the blow up throw your hands up is slam thing him and I both tend to do as scum to feign sincerity
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So I don’t play enough to know this but he could have slipped
Just did a lot of research and it seems like loom Primarily crafts vanity items. Essentially cosmetics that don’t offer any strength or gains. I am not sure how this correlates with enable as they justification is it strengthens you. I need to find out the use for crafting functional armor as that would make more sense with hai role claim
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@WyIted
Look up your item and see if it’s like
axe which covers a broad category
Or if you are a type of axe
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The Loom is a crafting station used to craft Silk, as well as some items that require Silk as an ingredient. It can sometimes be found in Underground Cabins.
From the wiki
From your claim
I am the loom, a crafting station that can be crafter or found in underground cabins that crafts apparel primarily using silk that strengthens your character. Thus I am the strengthener and can choose a player each night to guarantee the effect of their night action.
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@Lunatic
You are going to hate me for this but that makes you sus you even more. Loom is early game and yea it uses silk but that justification is almost right off the wiki and mine is much more simplistic and not near as much info it it and has a custom justification.
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I think the part I’m stuck on more than any of this is why just say you are a crafting station so openly. Instead of saying item which was what we are asking for.
Because saying you are a crafting station heavily implies you craft items and there is no way scum does not see that as a power role. So I can’t wrap my head around why just say it yolo when it makes you a target if you are town
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@ResurgetExFavilla
He will get annoyed and push back as both. I think as scum he tends to be more aggressive with fighting it but I’ve seen him do it as town to
Even entertaining I’m wrong. Contemplating I may have got him as scum for the wrong reasons and debating how he would respond to that.
I still am not letting go of my theory just yet. As you are the only other person who kinda invalidates it which is annoying lol
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@Lunatic
I’m asking her to clarify if she is.
She could be something like a flask or a potion etc
And each of those have tiers of the item.
Can be swiftness, iron skin etc.
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@ILikePie5
@Savant
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
@Ultracrepidarian
Can you guys clarify the parent/category aspect of
Your roles.
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@Lunatic
I think you prob for the claim from Someone on your team who knows the game before I started hammering down on the theory i had (if you were scum)
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1. Lunatic - crafting table - split / tier
2. Mikal/Castin - Item - category / not a tier
3. Ultra - item
4. Whiteflame - critter category/ not a tier
5. Pie - NPC
6. Resurget - npc / tier of npc
7. Casey - Item
8. Savant - NPC
9. Vader - not a tier - single item
10. Irontoaster - pressure plate - category / not a tier
11. Joebob - Item - not a tier or category.
12. Wylted
13. Banana - item Consumable
14. Cerulean
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1. Lunatic - crafting table - split / tier
2. Mikal/Castin - Item - category / not a tier
3. Ultra - item
4. Whiteflame - critter category/ not a tier
5. Pie - NPC
6. Resurget - npc / tier of npc
7. Casey - Item
8. Savant - NPC
9. Vader - not a tier - single item
10. Irontoaster - pressure plate - category / not a tier
11. Joebob - Item - not a tier or category.
12. Wylted
13. Banana
14. Cerulean
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That annoys me a bit because i town read you behavior wise and that’s the first one other than Luna that is putting a bump in my theory.
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Interesting
Okay skep is the only other person that is technically a tier of an item
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after skep confirms and we get two more soft claims that verify my thoughts. I’m okay with getting a full claim from Luna and fully expect it to be something like gunsmith or inventor.
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@ResurgetExFavilla
Clarifying again and sorry.
Are you the base item or a tier of the item
Example
Axe
Or iron axe
Just say axe or iron axe and I’m groovy
Are you the base item or a tier of the item
Example
Axe
Or iron axe
Just say axe or iron axe and I’m groovy
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The supa post is my first actual behavior read on him and I agree. It’s odd to latch on to that. I think supa was trying to figure out if he classified as a category and Mharm prob gave him wrong info and didn’t explain it right. You don’t have to be an item that has tiers. You can just be an item with no tiers and I’m assuming that’s what supa is trying to say but having no idea how to articulate it.
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@Lunatic
So
Tv is a pressure plate or the pressure plate. There are a variety of pressure plates that do many different things
I am a (x). There are a variety of (x) that do many different things.
Every other claim so far other is a singular item with no subsets or the base item That has subsets.
It’s the equivalent of saying I’m Conan.
I’m a iron pickaxe instead of, I’m a pickaxe
You are the only person so far that is claiming a tier or sect of an item. Your pm likely should read
I am crafting tables , or the crafting table
If it follows what other claims are doing so far.
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