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@Polytheist-Witch
If the mod is "harassing you", it's probably because most of your posts involve accusing and insulting people.
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There was a time when actors were considered the dregs of society, esteemed not much better than prostitutes.
Today, their opinions are especially esteemed, especially their politics!
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@Polytheist-Witch
To say there is no evidence thst Jesus existed would be to be in denial of an awful lot of evidence.
We are, after all, talking about the single most influential person to ever walk the Earth.
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@keithprosser
PGA 2.0 is not an Orthodox Christian.
But your theory is simply a false narrative.
The Church is certainly not antisemitic. This is a preposterous claim for a multitude of reasons.
1. All of the apostles were Jewish.
2. A good chunk of the early church was Jewish.
3. Jews are not the only semitic people. The church I go to was planted by semitic immigrants.
4. The official position of tbe church is that we do not oppress anyone or anyone or act unjustly to others simply they are heterodox.
5. Jews are welcome into the church(in fact, my best friend is a Christian who is ethnically Jewish).
The Orthodox Catholic Church is Israel. The people today who call themselves Jews descend from the pharasitic sect of Judaism that ended up becoming Rabbinic Judaism.
We love them, but we do consider them to be in heresy. Rabbinic Judaism is not the same religion as the mosaic religion, and all modern forms of Judaism decend from Rabbinic Judaism.
If you really want to get into the history of why this schism took place, it has much to do with the fact that Roman law granted privledges to Jews so long as they didn't proselytize or convert anybody to Judaism. As Christians welcomed gentile converts, it was bringing negative attention to all Jews. So Jesus Christ was rejected by what we today call the Jews as a matter of earthly survival...
As it is written...
"Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.
But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them what things Jesus had done.
Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad."
The Orthodox Catholic Church is open to Jew and gentile alike, because it is common faith that unites us. We are certainly not anti-semitic or even anti-Jewish. We certainly have a right to believe and profess that they are in error for rejecting their God. Just as we have a right to believe and profess that sexual immorality is sinful. We don't believe or profess these things because we hate, on the contrary, it is because we love that we speak the truth. It is a lot easier to tell people what they want to hear rather than the truth. The Church isn't in tge business of oppressing anyone or administering justice. The Church is not a secular government, nor does it wish to be.
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@keithprosser
Well, either way, you are saying we worship creation as God.
This is simply not the case, and if it was, how can it also be written in Saint Paul's letter to The Romans...
"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."
So you simply do not know Jesus Christ.
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Did Moses know that he was being used to help prepare the church of Jesus Christ?
The Word of God is Jesus Christ. That being the case, Jesus Chriist was with Moses. The Law was given to Moses, because "Blessed are the pure in heart, they will see God", and the purpose of The Law was to guide Israel into purity of heart.
I am not interested in whether you accept what I say or not , I honestly don't care, it is what you have to say that interests me. As long as it is not your usual perpetual mantra.
Well then for the benefit of others who may be interested in whether I accept what you just said or not, I of course think it is a load of neo-gnostic pagan nonsense.
Nonsense that if you hold on to will be a stumbling block to knowing Jesus Christ.
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@Goldtop
Yes, I sure am.
But we are both trolling with different intentions.
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@keithprosser
You have made up yiur mind that Jesus is a person. Indeed Jesus is the 2nd person of The Trinity.
But what you are really saying is that we Christians worship a man as God. If that was really the case, why is it that Paul wrote in his letter to The Romans, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man"?
If you do not know the Jesus that we know, you don't know Jesus.
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@Goldtop
"And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men."
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@Alec
The Lord of all is God, therefore the idea of theocracy being our aim cannot be true.
I am not sure it would be appropriate for me to go so far as to call you a friend when you profess to not believe in truth in identifying as an atheist. I still love you though.
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@Stephen
He is important in that The Orthodox Catholic Church is Israel, and Moses was used by God to help prepare the church for Jesus Christ.
The Mosaic religion ended in 70 AD with the destruction of the temple. The Church went on to become The Orthodox Catholic Church. Rabbinic Judaism descended from the pharisees who did not accept Jesus Christ.
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@Alec
Christianity is not "the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program".
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@Outplayz
Who do you say Jesus Christ is?
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@Alec
So it has been established that an ideology is not God.
That said, it still sounds like you have a very superficial understanding of Christianity.
Jesus Christ. Who do you say he is?
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@keithprosser
The Orthodox Catholic Church is the only authority on Christian theology.
Central to your issue is the identity of Jesus Christ. Who do you say He is? The Orthodox understanding is central to realizing salvation.
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@Outplayz
Jesus Christ is heaven.
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@Alec
No idealogy can be The Truth.
An ideology is not God.
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@Goldtop
If The Truth is disgusting to you, that is because you have no love for it.
I am not offended that you revile me. I know it is because before you hated me, you hated The Truth.
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@Alec
You are very deceived if you believe these things about my faith.
SJWs take matters into their own hands.
Christians leave it in the hands of God.
And God is The Truth.
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@keithprosser
The "Hebrew God" is not a product of culture, therefore you make err when you say, "...despite almost zero contact between...".
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It is a mistake to think these things have origin in a particular culture when these things can be revealed from God to those who have purified their heart through the removing of the passions.
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@Stephen
"For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another"
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@Outplayz
To you this conversation must be a big joke. The fact that it is not a joke to me must be very funny to you.
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@Stephen
As long as you are insulting me, I am not to resppect your inquiries.
Grow up.
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@Alec
In a certain sense, sure, but there is a base level of dignity required for a concept such as "human rights" to be meaningful, and being human certainly isn't a dignity that is earned.
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The last 2 countries that The United States invaded were....
Afghanistan....
Iraq....
What do these two countries have in common?
They border Iran!
Can't say I'd be terribly surprised if The United States invaded Iran. Almost seems like something that has been in the works for a while now.
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@Outplayz
The very idea of adding to infinity is nonsensical.
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@Alec
An atheist is simply a pagan in denial of their gods.
We believe that man is created in God's image. This foundation secures the dignity of a person in such a way that atheism simply cannot.
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@Alec
If atheist replaces Christianity, so will human dignity and "rights" along with it.
Nihilism is death.
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@Alec
"God hath granted me to speak as I would, and to conceive as is meet for the things that are given me: because it is he that leadeth unto wisdom, and directeth the wise.For in his hand are both we and our words; all wisdom also, and knowledge of workmanship.For he hath given me certain knowledge of the things that are, namely, to know how the world was made, and the operation of the elements:The beginning, ending, and midst of the times: the alterations of the turning of the sun, and the change of seasons:The circuits of years, and the positions of stars:The natures of living creatures, and the furies of wild beasts: the violence of winds, and the reasonings of men: the diversities of plants and the virtues of roots:And all such things as are either secret or manifest, them I know."
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@Outplayz
Heaven is mercy.
Hell is torment.
Don't get it backwards.
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@Harikrish
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
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@Harikrish
It can not be helped if people are offended by The Truth.
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
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@Goldtop
Sounds like the church you go to.
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The forum is modersted just fine.
OP would be judged by his own measure.
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@Goldtop
The Church is The Body of Christ, and just as Christ is fully man and fully God, you will find the corruptability of human nature present in the church.
Christ is in our midst.
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@Stephen
I don't know what you mean by biblical archaeological evidence.
I do know that church history has been documented very thoroughly. Ours is the church that has an unbroken chain of ordinations back to the apostles.
This in itself does not make The Church, but it is one of many identifying marks of The Church.
To this day, the new testament that is used universally was determined from a list of books by Saint Athanasius, who was an Orthodox Catholic bishop of Alexandria.
We have a continuity of history going back to the beginning. Even protestant churches acknowledge the ecumenical councils, which were done by The Orthodox Catholic Church.
And the scriptures belong to us.
I am being very pokite, and I would appreciate it if you engaged me with respect. Just as God gives grace to the humble and resists the proud, so will I frustrate the impatient and rude.
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@Harikrish
Here is a pretty good timeline that helps explain why the great schism was a result of the Pope of Rome's HERESY, and that is why they are not orthodox.
Of course, even today they are trying to "mend the schism", but until they abandon their heresy this will not be a good thing.
If they were to make amends, the papacy would resume its place of honor in the church.
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Why would I want to reason with someone when they discount my viewpoint because of my religion when it isn't relevant to the topic?
Besides that, the OP is incapable of speaking to someone he disagrees with without insulting their intelligence or rationality.
The OP is immature, which is also why he wants to censor anyone that is obnoxious to his sensibilities.
A little patience and charity would go a long way for the OP if he wants better engagement. No one cares if you think you are the smartest person in the room. Grow up and treat people with respect. It'll make you look less like an idiot.
My interactions with the OP are pretty minimal, but look at how he talks to others.
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@Outplayz
It's really simple.
Eternal life.
Or
Eternal death.
It is the same place. What makes it heaven or hell depends entirely on whether you decide to put your faith in vain imaginings or The Truth.
Because when the light of Truth reveals everything as it is, what survives this baptism of fire? If you identify with falsehood, you are identifying with death. And so eternity for you will be the suffering that comes with dying for eternity. The shame of having forsaken The Truth. That very same light of God's brilliance will be comfort and bliss to those who put their faith in Him, because God is Life, and to abide in Him is to abide in Life Eternal.
Do you really understand this? I don't believe that is possible. I speak of things I have seen, things that I know. I don't believe you speak of things you know.
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No matter what the president does, people will complain. It has been like that forever. Not to the level of fanaticism that we have with the Don though.
Seriously, how many 24/7 Trump news networks do we need?
And yeah, most of it is fake news.
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Maybe op would rather Trump just institute these tariffs until Mexico actually passes the legislation.
I dunno, I'm kind of glad he is giving them time to fulfill their end of the bargain.
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@Goldtop
I don't believe you know Jesus or the church.
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Look, the kid who isn't yet 20 is going around calling everyone he doesn't understand or agree with irrational while he foams at the mouth, and warns people to not get triggered, and thinks he is an expert on politics and religion.
Just remember, if you out of principle refuse to argue with someone who is showing you no respect, that means you are conceding to their point.
No one could see this coming.
Ah, the "rationality" of the immature. Makes me remember how much of a dipshit I was when I was that age. Of course, I too was smarter than everyone around me.
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@secularmerlin
A religion is a "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith".
A cult is "formal religious veneration" or "a system of religious beliefs and ritual".
We in the Orthodox Church have rituals. This is the cultic with aspect of our religion. Our religion is not the ritual.
In our church we teach through icons. Images. Many pagans are familiar with ritualistic forms of veneration. As that is the case, we make use of ritualistic forms of veneration to speak to the type of people that sort of thing speaks to. These cults are icons in themselves, making visible the invisible, acting as types and shadows of the real thing.
And truly, that is part of what makes our faith Catholic.
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@ludofl3x
@RoderickSpode
1. Abolishing private property is a stated goal of communism/socialism.
2. Communist/socialist ideology is overtly atheistic.
When these 2 facts are taken into account, does it reveal anything about the atheist's particular argument of "separation of church and state"?
When an atheist confesses to being a socialist, is it not clear that the end goal is really the eradication of any religion that isn't the "scientific atheism" and state secularism?
Sure enough, the Soviet Union killed dozens of millions of Orthodox Christians. Disregard for human life is a hallmark of communist governments who do not believe that man was made in God's image. It is this belief that secures human rights and dignity in a way that no atheistic system can dublicate.
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@Goldtop
Jesus loves you, Goldtop.
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@3RU7AL
Not god, God. There is a difference. There is only One True God.
THE SUPREME AND ULTIMATE REALITY.
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