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@Analgesic.Spectre
That is one way. Give me examples of negative thoughts and i'll tell you how i deal with them. I can't really think of any right now. That in itself is another reason why they don't bother me. My mind is truly always blank. If it's not i'm thinking of situations and philosophical concepts. But i've practiced being present a lot. Not in the past not in the future. Just always present. So, when i don't have any present thoughts, i let me thoughts just blank out and don't pay attention to them. I've noticed the negative thoughts that bug the most are those that you can't do anything about and are not true by being in the past or the future and not having happened. I stay away from those ones, but everything else, yeah... i guess dispassionate is a good way to describe it.How does a person "handle" negative thoughts well? Is it by becoming dispassionate about them?
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@drafterman
I always used beta as an insult. Philosophically thinking about it... that's how i came up with the top crap i wrote. It doesn't make sense to me either. I will stick to calling pussies beta and non-pussies alphas. That's how i define it anyways.
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@EtrnlVw
Lol trust me i can tell we butt heads on the moderation issues... but, it would be astronomically weird if there wasn't something we couldn't disagree on.
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@janesix
As weird as it can be we know it's made of rock... not cheese lol. I think you are talking about ratios and numbers which i agree with you are pretty crazy when it comes to fine tune type arguments. But there is nothing about the moon that screams flat earth.
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@MagicAintReal
Why do you think most people in education / teachers are leftists / Democrat? I think it would be most logical for most teachers to be centrist and/or somewhere in the middle since that is likely the most logical place to be when analyzing what works from both sides.
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@EtrnlVw
So no there is very little room for agnosticism or even a moderately neutral view. He's as hardcore atheist as it gets. Easy to see in his replies.
Yeah, that's why i'm challenging him, bc he is describing a person more like me. From his replies and thoughts so far i can tell he's a hardcore atheist too. Not noticing much of the agnostic side. One thing agnostics are very attracted to are logical spiritual platforms that really could be true. It doesn't seem like to me he's considered such platforms. Maybe he has, who knows... but, i can tell he's an anti-theist or anti-religious gods. He keeps assuming that is the god i'm talking about which i've made clear i'm not. He's probably use to or most of the time argues religious people.
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@bsh1
Oh i see. Yeah... i'd personally stay away from doing that. Merely saying mods will get you in trouble for saying whatever shouldn't be punished. I guess there are ways to say it that would be insults.
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@bsh1
All of this is about him talking about moderation action... really? I think this is a successful appeal. It sounds like he had good intentions in what he did. Except for the clear violations... i thought they're funny, but i guess the person it was directed to didn't... so not cool. But simply telling people they will get in trouble by mods if they continue shouldn't be against the rules. It's like saying, "Don't tell that person not to steal bc threatening police response isn't cool." It makes no sense.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
there are very few Oriental women that I found attractive, the straight hair and moon faces just don't do it for me generally speaking.
And not all of them have that but a lot do. That's why there are certain races where i would say i am not attracted to the majority of them. Not Asians though... they hot.
the blacks only dating sites exclude on skin color.....but that's ok (insert excuses and justifications here)
Sounds pretty racist to me.
The culture thing i mean you hate "black culture" ... whatever that is. I guess that isn't a good description of what i meant. Say you don't want to have a family of people that talk like most black people do. I guess that's kinda culture. That i would say is racist.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
so you like the black and Indian women that look white, sure I get it LOL j/k
That's actually true. Since the look i'm most attracted to is typically found in white girls.
I generally don't find fat chicks appealing
It doesn't matter what race, fat girls are extremely unattractive to me... even chubby. I tend to like girls of the anorexic variety. They can have a little meat on their bones... but i'm into thin girls. Eating disorders encouraged lol j/k... well sorta ;p But that is what goes into your style... those are the characteristics i can find in any race. That's why it borders racism if i still don't like a race that meets all my usual requirements.
oh and no bald chicks, if you are into that, good for you, it ain't my thang.
Well now we are getting into what can be deep or just racist. "All" black girls? Even mixed? Is it bc you wouldn't want family members that are black (racist)? Is it bc you don't like their culture (racist)? Or are you talking about just one type...? I've never met a very dark skinned black girl i've found attractive, nor have i seen any models i would say are attractive... but, i can't say with confidence i wouldn't find one attractive. Actually, i might have seen one in a movie once i found attractive, but the lowest percentage of my what i find attractive is in the very dark skinned black women. Same goes for Indian. However, i've met and seen light skinned of both that were extremely beautiful. The only other reason i wouldn't date them would be of the racist variety. Either i don't want black family members bc i don't want that kind of culture or something else... i can't think of how it wouldn't be racist if i still passed on a girl i found attractive. Unless you literally find none of them attractive, which i find hard to believe but i guess could be possible.
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@Stronn
Heck yeah it's racist. I use to say i don't date any blacks or Indians, but i soon found out there are a lot of blacks and a lot of Indians. I have a particular taste when it comes to looks that certain races have a lot more of than others, but guess what, so do the above races. Very, very few of them, but they do have it. So, for me to say i cannot be attracted to "any" of that race is based on racism. Whatever type of look you like... you will find within said race. If you are still not attracted, it's probably bc of racism.For the sake of argument, assume that someone doesn't discriminate based on race except in one area: dating. Is that racist?
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@Vader
Go right ahead and continue. Don't let a little hate stop it. I'll give you an honest opinion on whether or not to continue after i actually see something.
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@RationalMadman
No. The ones who do that appear popular but are statistically not the actual popular ones. Alpha-types are known for the popularity and their ability to bully well, this is totally irrelevant to their moral compass and how they use their capacity to dominate others in overt manners.The most popular kids are the Deltas and Lambdas, always.
Yeah your actually right. There were a couple kids that would make fun of people outside to group but it was likely the deltas and lambdas that would make fun of them back. I remember personally putting some of them on the spot for making fun... like, what makes you better since i know you suck at x. Since i knew a lot about them, tearing them down was easy. Most of the popular kids in my grade were more warrior types. Football players, and other sports... but, always down for a fight to protect their friends. My grade had a lot of alphas. Our first assembly where the freshman are welcomed, the seniors started a chant "freshman suck." As soon as they were done, our entire class started chanting 'seniors suck' lol. That gives you a good idea what my class was like. The teachers said as long as they've been there they've never seen the freshman yell that back. I hated my class, but those are some aspects about my class i liked. I would say we had the most loyal and warrior type class, but we also had a very entitled class. A lot of kids were rich... and that was annoying. Are school even had a car show bc of it. Lined up with Ferrari's and rice racers.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
I personally find some negative thinking to feel really good. It's good to have positive thinking, but i think it's a fine mix between the two people should master. But then again, this is all really subjective. What works for me may not work for others. And also, i don't get stress from negative thinking, it 'turns me on' so to say. I guess default position should be to think positive if people can't handle negative thoughts. And there are some negative thoughts that automatically induce bad feelings so it's good to turn those off. The studies have merit for a reason. Bc i think the majority of people can't handle negative thoughts well. But if you can, not only does it feel good in my case... it better prepares me for when i do encounter negativity or the manifestation of a negative thought.
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@Vader
You've barely wrote anything for anyone to like or dislike. Unless i'm not seeing it. I only see the teaser.
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@Vader
Do the popular kids in your school bully the less popular?
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@Vader
Nice we would have probably been friends bc i pretty much 90% would have challenged you to a body shots match. That's what gave me a name... no one my size could beat me. I was like 170 pounds but pretty fit since i was a drummer. Didn't really focus on working out... carrying around drums and playing 10 hours straight was enough workout for me. But anyways, i could only box people bigger than me. My friend is also your height and size. I can't tell you how many times we've boxed. I can tell you my win rate is low against a guy your size. But you'll be surprised how much punishment i can take before i give up lol.
In real fights... i've been against some big dudes and won. I only fought when the person was too stupid to understand words. There are some really low iq bullies you know. My sister said she use to get bullied in middle school. I wish i knew. But then she told me in high school once everyone found out i was her brother they stopped. So i'm happy it helped. She was really shy and wouldn't tell me. I told her she should have... it pisses me off that went under my radar.
But ultimately, being able to win fights with words is so much more fulfilling. But sometimes... some people just deserve a good beating. I would give you advice that if you see someone being bullied to use your size to back them up. That is also really fulfilling. I was hyper focused on helping people that got bullied. That's also one reason i never mainly hung out with the popular crew although they all knew me. I found hanging out with the hood rats... called DRK, dirty rat kids lol... was much more humbling. Plus, they were the musicians.
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The reason i'm not speaking about it openly is bc what i do has implications for things i don't want to talk about... that literally have nothing to do with you @poly... I'm already saying too much by saying that. Just understand you really aren't understanding why i say what i say. I can tell you that you're wrong in what you think i mean by it. I guess this will be too much again, but there are psychological concepts i like to practice online. Wylted whole situation was perfect practice in interrogations and lying: And it goes deeper than just this.
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@Vader
That's good. In life being able to talk about anything and just flow will always get the attention of the room. That is what most of the lawyers taught me when i got my paralegal certificate. Just learn random stuff. Random topics that you know well enough to be able to talk about it. That is why i like sites like this and am mostly reading other peoples thoughts. Just to have random stuff i can talk about. People really like a person that can flow and more so keep everyone else flowing. It's great to have at school and work life.
Personally, in high school, i was the popular kid bc i could beat a lot of people up. But what really got everyone's attention is that i would never use this ability to fight to fight. I would break fights up or stop fights with just words. They named my Loki... and other silver tongue descriptions. To me, it felt so much more like a win if i could stop bad things from happening with my words. I felt if i used my fighting abilities, that even if i won... i lost. Flowing when your adrenaline is peaked i found for some reason to be easier than just random moments. I don't know why, it's kinda crazy. But when i have adrenaline i'm pretty good at flowing with the perfect whatever to defuse a situation.
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@BrutalTruth
What the hell does this even mean? Only fools? So a person that thought the world is round when everyone was saying flat was a fool? A person that believed we could fly was a fool? At every point in human history... people that suspected things "could be" true are the ones that have progressed humanity. It's this strong belief that something can be true that is an awesome implication of our minds. If you are referring to believing it's 100% true without any sort of evidence at all to suspect it... i would agree. But there is more than enough evidence to suspect spirituality. To believe 100% the platform you have is the truth is foolish. But to suspect, which is the extent of what i am talking about, is not foolish at all. Your one sentence to me makes no sense considering that is what i'm talking about. It seems like a C&P you arbitrarily sent that likely is meant for religious people... i am in no way religious nor do i hold 100% belief in any one platform. I have certain platforms i believe to be the most likely ... but this isn't about that. I personally need a reason to even start trying to imagine a platform that would make sense... my reason to even going there is bc i would say there is sufficient evidence to give me a go on that leap. To suspect there is some sort of spirituality is not illogical nor is it foolish.It's really quite simple dude: Only fools believe something is true when they don't KNOW it's true. End of story.
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@RationalMadman
Yeah i just re-read it. "Lack of cunning etc." You're pretty good at understanding sociological concepts. This would have actually made for a very interesting project in multiple socio classes i've taken. The teachers love this sort of thinking and observations. One of my notable projects were naming the different types of male / females in a bar setting. That was fun bc i got to drink and do my research lol.
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@RationalMadman
Hahahah no way. Did you know who i was talking about? Or did you just answer? Be honest, bc that is pretty darn good observations if you didn't know. It rivals even me in my sociological expertise.
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@RationalMadman
You did a pretty good job. I enjoyed reading all of them. Which one's would you say are the least manipulative or that understand manipulation the least. Bc, as it stands right now.... i can tell one specific user isn't very good at it. She blocked me bc she thinks she understands my intentions... it's quite funny. I'll tell you more in pms if you're curious, don't want to give up my ruse.
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@Wylted
Next time take a screenshot. What i can tell from this situation is that since you can do that... it's very unlikely the mods will be malicious in PMs knowing it can hurt them. There is a very low percentage chance they will snap and be malicious... but, maybe it can happen, they're no more than human. But... from your end, take a screenshot so we can all see for ourselves. Just saying it isn't very believable especially considering the shit storm that will come their way if they do something like that... that's why it's hard to believe. But... if it does happen, take a screenshot or a picture with your phone and post it.
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Really Poly... all i can say is you have no clue what i'm up to.
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@Wylted
So you're still insisting on that he said that crap? Do you think we are all idiots? So forgive me if everything else you're saying is hard to believe at this point.
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@RationalMadman
I like the description. Are Lambda's capable of turning into alpha/stigma's when it suits them best? That's one thing about me. Most the time i let others do things for me and sit back... but if i feel an alpha is truly needed in the moment, i can pick up the role when i need to.
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@RationalMadman
Thanks man. I nominate you too bc i truly enjoy reading your posts.. not just to compliment back.
I also enjoy reading from BRU7AL, EtrnlVw, and SecularMerlin.
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@Wylted
Have you had any other warnings? Plus, yours was more malicious bc you are an active member and to a lot of people you could have come off as serious and/or are more believable. Not a clear troll account with 2 posts in its entirety.
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@bsh1
I'm personally glad you can moderate in such a way that a clear troll account isn't something you'll jump to conclusions and just punish without the proper steps afforded to real accounts. I think you're doing a better job for what it's worth. I may in the future disagree with a decision, but as of now i am seeing the mod team get their acts together more and more. Keep up the good work.I am not, despite the misconception of some, a dictator. People are free to disagree with me, and to do so publicly and harshly. As the one wielding power, it is my duty to not just exercise that power as I see best, but to provide others wide latitude to criticize those decisions. The freedom to criticize is the root essence of political liberty.
When you say "Queen Elizabeth" ... do you mean Elizabeth Bathory? I so hope you do ;p She's my favorite queen of horrors.
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@Castin
@RationalMadman
Let's see... if this works, thanks.
Edit: Oh, cool... i thought i tried the comma thing, i guess i was using semi-colons. Thanks anyways.
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@bsh1
I know, i was just joking around. My main point is that it's a sockpuppet account and SupaDudz need not worry it's for real... i'm 99% sure it's a fake troll account.
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@bsh1
I say just perm ban that account =) I mean seriously though, i'm pretty sure it's a sockpuppet account to troll.
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@sadolite
Same here... but i have come to notice A LOT of people care what random people on the internet have to say... it's def. weird to me, but maybe you compete with me in the having thick skin department. Not many do as i've come to notice.
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@Vader
Of course it's not true. Why would Castin randomly PM someone that has 1 post the entire time on this site? Who even knows this person exists? I did bc they tried to pretend they were Ms. Ford... already starting out on a lie and i called that out too. This is a sockpuppet account to troll. I say perm ban it immediately.
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@BrutalTruth
A lack of an explanation does not serve as an explanation, which is essentially what your entire argument relies on."I can't come up with a better explanation, so god musta done it."
If you read carefully, i specifically said that isn't what i'm doing. I said i don't know what "platform" can be responsible for these events. I illustrated it isn't entirely like your analogy however. Bc with experiences you witness what happens, you just don't know how it happens.
Your entire argument relies on one gigantic fallacy brother. Your argument fails.
Of course there are fallacies. When you are talking about something that's unknown or has no proof... you are likely going to engage in some forms of fallacies when trying to explain this unknown. Plus, i have never said i am 100% sure what any of this is. I am consciously trying not to engage in a fallacy by saying my experience 100% means x. I have no clue what "x" is. Could be natural, could be something else. The experiences themselves however are pointing to a more uncomfortable answer. It can't simply be ignored.
Have you ever heard of schizophrenia?
I'm not a dumbass... of course i have considered this in being the cause. It ultimately doesn't make sense however. Like i said, if it is a delusion... it is really curious why these delusions only happen in selective and very specific experiences. Plus, two of my experiences had other people there. Without these too i would much more greatly think of a mental illness. But since i have had other people witness it too... that only adds to what happened happened. Of course you can say it is mass delusion... but like i said. To say the vast amount of experiences that people witness are simply delusion or mental illness is not an honest answer in my opinion, it's a cop out. You can think whatever you want to... you can be in the camp that every single one of these vast amounts of experiences are delusion/mental illness... i simply just think you're wrong and illogically too confident there is nothing there. This evidence, bc that is what it is, is enough for me to suspect there is something more to spirituality than just god / gods. I personally have ruled out god... bc you can rule out what doesn't logically follow. But at that point it's all speculation. Which is why i'm agnostic atheist on top of being spiritual. I have no other choice but to. It's easy for you to say it's "schizophrenia" ... but since i am the one that have witnessed these events... i'm a more than certain simple mental illness doesn't supply a sufficient answer.
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@Wylted
And what is exactly wrong about Castin and i joking around? What you did was malicious and with intent to hurt. There decision was actually lenient.
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@BrutalTruth
That's a good analogy but only applies at a certain point, so it doesn't directly make sense. The evidence of "experiences" is suggestive at a certain point, but what happens to get you to that point is a head scratcher. For instance, if someone sees an apparition that communicates to them that they will be in a car accident next week... that is not something you have to wonder about what you saw. You saw something, but which spiritual platform can answer what you saw would be the suggestive part.A hole in a tree could be "suggestive evidence" of a giant(such as Sasquatch) sodomizing a tree. Or, it could be evidence that someone shot the tree with a cannon. Or it could be evidence that a laser was misfired and hit the tree.
There are many spiritual experiences of this nature. Hearing a voice say you can heal someone and touching them and healing them, hearing a voice say don't go your usual route bc you'll get in trouble and you do when you don't heed the warning, asking questions and getting corresponding sounds to your questions from something that's not there, asking something that's not there to spin a necklace to the right and then to the left and it does it, etc. All of which above are spiritual experiences i've had. But lets not even count mine. I've heard a guy tell me that a random person in another state came up to him and told him to tell his mom not to go on a trip she had been planning. She said she was overwhelmed with a bad feeling so she had to say something; admitting it was weird for her too bc she's never felt this. The person was an atheist and didn't think anything of it. His mom went on a trip a week later that she had planned and was hit head on by a drunk driver. Etc. I can find a lot of these types of examples, experiences that are like mine and others.
Now, it suggestive in that we have no clue which spiritual platform can be responsible. We don't know if it's angels, demons, jins, gods, etc. That part isn't clear. But, the experiences people have are pretty clear in that they are pointing towards something of the spiritual nature. We can rule out, some times, natural explanations. And really, there is only a few natural explanations all of which is a cop out in my opinion. Bc all you can say is that the person is deluded or suffered from some kind of delusion. But that still doesn't answer the frequency in which they happen and to how many, most of the time, non-deluded people. I suffer from no mental illnesses' that would create delusion. Even if i did, it's curious how i only get episodes that are very specific and spiritual in nature.
So, you can say it's suggestive... but, it's not completely suggestive, only at a point it is. And what i'm saying is that it's enough to suspect spiritual platforms but not enough to believe. I think i am being as fair as i can be. Especially since i have personally had profound experiences, i still say suspect. I should be saying i 100% believe... but, you're right at that point in that the suggestive element to these experiences aren't enough for proof or iron clad belief.
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@3RU7AL
That makes sense, but i didn't think being an Alpha is exclusive to being a leader is it?
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@Castin
Excuse me but bish is obviously the queen. Where's this "my queen" stuff comin' from. I am like... the court jester in your crosshairs or something. Let's be accurate.
Lol oh yeah i forget we have more than one queen on board. I guess you're the good queen and he's is the evil queen of hearts. And Vits Alice... looking for her way out ;p
Hey, how do you respond to more than one person? What do i have to put in "receivers" for it to work. I've tried @ sign but that doesn't work.
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I keep trying to wonder why beta's have survived for so long, and so many of them given natural selection. Shouldn't there be way more Alpha's in the world? It looks about even bw the two. But then i kept thinking and came to something else... are beta's really beta? Both parties have their extremes. Super alphas and super betas. Both are annoying. Very stupid confidence vs. well... pussy crybabies.
But how about the inbetween? Are those beta's just alpha's behind a disguise? Let me give an example. A car tire blows out. The alpha asks the beta to change the tire. The beta says he doesn't know how (but the reality is he knows damn well how to change a tire). The alpha makes fun of the beta for not knowing and not being manly, but the beta smirks and chuckles well "I could try." The alpha says hell no. Don't want you to mess things up so the alpha does it. The amazing thing about the alpha is a year later. A year later the wheel blows out. Can you change it beta? I don't remember how. How can you not the alpha asks, i'm pretty sure i showed you. The beta (remembering fully) replies, well i can try and do my best... the alphas says hell no, i got this.
This situation could happen over and over again. The beta basically doesn't give a fuck about being "manly" or looking up a youtube video and taking charge. The beta is a lazy fuck that gets the alpha to do all his work bc well... alphas are easy to manipulate for betas. This scenario can be true in any case: Do the harder part of this homework assignment bc you're smarter, take care of the kids bc i would be horrible at it, go get the groceries bc i will probably mess up getting what we need, etc. The beta has the alpha wrapped around his/her fingers. It's amazing.
So... i must ask, who's really the beta?
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@Castin
Didn't have to justify it much with me. I agree with your decision. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't for the latter offense at which point i would have started a firestorm of mod hate speech.. yes, even against my queen. You are in the crosshairs now my queen. I'm sorry, but i must... in order for the kingdom to survive, be harsh on you too. But seriously, good decision. I don't think his debating rights should be banned for too long personally, but i agree with the decision overall so whatever you guys do, short of a perm ban, i agree with.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
What have women created in general? ;p Que... Feminazi's
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@RationalMadman
It's just how i see it. I think i've made my position on formal debates pretty clear where ever it gets brought up. I just don't like them. No one has to follow my logic or feelings on the matter. But since there is winning and losing involved... i don't fault anyone for using whatever they can to win. Even if it is dishonest. I'm personally very competitive and would do everything in my power to win if i was using that function of this site. So i don't hate on anyone for doing everything they can to win, even if i define it as dishonest. Whatever. That's primarily why i was concerned when i thought being dishonest in debates is a punishable offense... i would have wholeheartedly disagreed with that. Whatever gets you the win in my book is fair game as long as you aren't directly being malicious to the other person. I mean, it sorta does hurt when you lose to that kind of conduct, but in my book... that just makes you stronger. People should know they are getting into something they may lose for whatever reason.
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@Ramshutu
I haven't been following all the conversations on this. I guess i just read into it incorrectly bc i did feel like for a second they were including the lying to win a debate part. But, Bsh1 made it clear so i was wrong.
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@bsh1
Okay that's reasonable. Thanks for making that clear.Not speaking to this particular case, but in general, lying to win a debate is not bannable. It might be an aggravating factor in some cases, but it is not bannable unless it violates some element of the COC.
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@Ramshutu
They were also adding into it the lying to win the debate. So, i'm just trying to make sure that isn't part of the bannable issue bc if it is i find that to be ridiculous. But, what you're talking about that they're saying i think is 100% punishment worthy. It's not cool to make malicious stuff up about people and pass it off as truth to assassinate their character... that's not right in any scenario. So i hope that's the focus of the ban... but, only that part. Not the lying to win a debate part.Not wanting to put words in her mouth, but I’m pretty sure the ban was for a the pretty outrageous personal attack - which happened to take the form of a lie. That’s what I took from her replies on the previous page. I think other people took that to mean that the issue was the lie, rather than the attack.
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@Fallaneze
My question is why does all the evidence have to be in support of a god. Why not gods? I am agnostic atheist and spiritual bc i believe there is evidence to at least suspect a spiritual reality might exists. However, i have thought of platforms that aren't a god. Ultimately however, i do concede the way you define god is logical. An eternal consciousness is something you always fall back to even in multi god scenarios. But in no way is the god of religion logical. The god they describe doesn't follow with all the evidence. Therefore, to be atheist towards religion is much more logical.
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