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@linate
Dude that link is riddled with misinformation and manipulation of stats... wow man, you have really been indoctrinated into this haven't you. "Women are 5 times more likely to get shot" ... i wonder why they say 5 "times" and not give the percentage... don't you wonder? Maybe bc the percentage comes out to .000016% chance... oh, but that doesn't look scary. 5 times looks scarier. Here let's put it another way... if you don't own a knife you have 0 times chance of cutting yourself. If you own a knife you are 1000000 times more likely to cut yourself. Until you can wake up and see the rest of that link is riddled with ridiculous information... you will stay willfully ignorant.
Everything you are saying is so ignorant of firearms. "It's better if many people are coming at you" NO. It's better all around. Have you ever shot a gun before in your life? A rifle, at least for me, is the best self defense weapon i have and will always be my go to. Why? Bc in high stress situations your hand shakes... as hard as a hand gun is to shot already, under this stress it's harder. You don't run into that with rifles, for me. So, i... and many i know, would rather use a rifle for self defense. And the fact that making them illegal won't even make a dent in gun crimes... i wonder what your agenda is.
But you have started to already regurgitate ignorant talking points... so i wonder if you will ever come out of your willful ignorance. I gave you a list of contentions in my previous post and you aren't even trying to answer them... bc you can't.
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I have family in scientific fields and i trust they are not lying to me. My neighbor is also a pilot and i trust he is not lying. Plus... i don't think we have people in space just to make up a lie that the world is round. The proof is pictures from space, etc. etc. It makes no sense why every pilot, every scientist, everyone that has witnessed the earth being round is lying. That is delusional to think. If you've never experienced, fine be agnostic. But the vast amount of evidence for the earth being round is undeniable.
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@linate
doesn't the disadvantages outweigh the advantages in keeping them legal?
Since 2% of all gun homicides is done with "any" rifle... what are you talking about? The advantages vastly outweigh the disadvantages.
where are the examples of where an AR15 was needed over a regular gun when it come to self defense? i dont think i've ever heard even a single instance.
In the LA riots, guess which businesses didn't get destroyed? A little place in Asian town where a lot of the owners were standing there ground with rifles. Other than that, just youtube it man... or Google it... come on. We live in the technology age... you can easily debunk yourself.
all the time you hear of mass shooters going on rampages with them. killers blow holes in their victims that ensure nothing can be done with them, given how the bullets blow large holes and inflict much damage.
And a shotgun, in most of these instances... would do a lot more damage. But i wonder why they use rifles? Is it bc they study what the media says is the most deadly? Is it bc it is readily available? Etc. These shooters, if they knew what they are doing, would get a hunting rifle that uses a 308 and rip through people. Here, look at this chart:
Which ammo do you think is used in an AR? .223 buddy. Look at the difference bw that bullet and the right of the chart which are common hunting rifle rounds.
i've heard it both ways on whether the assault weopons ban was effective or not. i think most people say it wasn't effective but i also see that if you do the math yourself, it looks like people are more likely to use an AR15 in a murder than a regular gun. that's looking at how many deaths are caused by ar15s and looking at the total number of those guns out there.
I think you feel the way you do bc of media indoctrination and ignorance of firearms. Why don't you research it unbiased and make up your mind after you have been informed from the people saying the opposite of what you believe. There is a reason i am centrist, and gun issues are one big one i think Dems are completely wrong in. The only way you can effect gun deaths/mass shootings, besides the billions of gun laws we already have, is a full ban... that is the goal and i spit on these people bc they spit on the millions that have died for our rights... and do so with proud ignorance.
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@Mopac
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
It's actually deeper than this the way i see it. Bc it wasn't only for his friends. It was also for murders, rapists, and to prove this, evil people were right next to him (if that was left out it wouldn't be construed for everyone which is quite brilliant "bad" "evil" men were next to him). That is why i think it is genius. There is no other story that would cover everyone. If he had only done miracles, people would say he would only do it for people he likes. If he only said it, people would think he lied. To die a torturous death with the intention of it being for everyone leaves no room for doubt it was for everyone (especially since evil people were next to him and he said it's for them too). That's why i think there is no other story that one could tell that would be for everyone. In that, it's genius, but let's not forget i only think it's a story. With that said, i do respect how good of a story it was/is.
If Jesus was real however, i think he would be appalled by the state of religion today. In that, i agree with Stephen. Bc the next story i really like about Jesus other than this story is that he hated the church as it was.
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@EtrnlVw
I personally like the story of his death. I think it's genius. There is no other story i can think of that would mean ultimate love for everyone.
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@3RU7AL
I can see how it is valid with gambling and even arguments and such... but in this case, i wouldn't say it applies. Depending on factors of course. If each box came from a different place and they all happened to be blue... i wouldn't be so confident the closed box is blue. Id still be unsure in that case. If all the boxes came from the same source... i would be very confident the last box is the same. So it depends. Given my second example... i wouldn't say those fallacies apply.
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@3RU7AL
With that said, it would matter how many boxes there are and if all of them came from the same source. There is of course a process that needs to be considered. But if they all came from the same source, all looked the same, and 5 or more of them all being the same... to be blue would be your best bet.
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@3RU7AL
I don't think it would be bad logic. It would be induction but a good one. If every box is blue... to make a bet it's a different color would be a bad induction in my opinion. If going off percentages of chance... for it to be the same as all the other boxes is the most logical.
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@3RU7AL
Yeah it would affect my decision. I would think blue would be a good bet.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Oh, i didn't know that. Whatever, it doesn't matter anyways. I don't bother myself with that specific area of these debate sites anyways...
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@bsh1
Agreed.11. No longer prohibit the use of slurs so long as those slurs are not intended to render insult to the subject of the comment
Since i don't vote or debate formally, i'm not qualified to answer the other ones.
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@ethang5
At this point... i hope this site knows we can always go back to DDO. And leave the children that are so scared of some bad words to play by themselves. It sucks bc in one hand it is good that they are moderating so people like Hari will get banned quickly, but on the other hand moderating people that say "fuck off" "you're an idiot" "that was dumb" etc... is really getting on my nerves.
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@Tyrone
I personally think the only thing that should be moderated is if and when a person reports someone else. Then, to take the things you said in consideration of that report. If it's not one of the three things you mentioned, he leaves it alone and tells the person that reported it to calm down.
If what i am saying is too much, then i agree with your three suggestions.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Oh, that's cool. I only know tarot cards so i can't really ever focus anything on myself. I think it's best that way anyways. I would be obsessed with doing it all the time if it worked for me. Maybe that's why it tends to not work. Sometimes it does, but that's rare.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Cool glad it help.
Yeah... i don't do readings just to do them. I have to be feeling it. If someone asks me for a reading and i feel it is when i usually get the best results. The crazy thing is that it's never worked for myself. I don't know why it's like that. Even if i am feeling it, it seems it's never that accurate for when i do it for myself. That's why it was cool you could do it for me and vice versa. The reading's are always better done by someone else.
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@secularmerlin
Just as this color example. I would go off logic not faith. Faith is useless in my opinion.
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@secularmerlin
I most certainly do. And since i think this has a "religion section" connotation to it. That is precisely why i never advocate religion. I favor spiritual beliefs that i think have evidence and logic to them. And, it has taken me years to come to a conclusion i would say is a logical platform. I've never done it through blind faith. I've always followed the path that can answer the most questions in considering a spiritual view.
For instance, 100 generations ago a family member looked in the box and said it's red. Then said no one else is suppose to look and just believe him. 100 generations later after being passed down... this person says it's red. That has a little more logic to it but still... why didn't the person want anyone else to look? Was the person credible? Was the person colorblind? Would someone down the line not remember correctly? ... these questions should always be asked and considered. I wouldn't say religion is as blind as this color example bc it does have some "evidence" to it. But, i do not think that this evidence, in the end of the day, holds up to the questions one can ask about said religion. Some answer better, but i'd rather go with the one that can answer as many questions as possible. That's why i hate it when religious people say "i just have faith it's right bc YOU Can't know." I call bs. I can know, or at least know and question to a better certainty and i'm open minded and not lazy enough to do so. In my line of questioning and going down rabbit holes, i truly think i've thought of a platform that is most logical to be true. Still... i haven't looked in the box so "i don't know" is always going to be a part of that truth. But unlike this example, the platform i choose to go with has evidence (weak), answers questions, and is logical. If i were to make a bet, i'd make a bet on logic not faith.
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@secularmerlin
Yeah... i don't believe that either. If there isn't some kind of evidence for it to be red, i have no reason to believe it or not. I'd know i'm just guessing.
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@secularmerlin
I don't really understand. So before i saw the ball... i could guess the color? I would still know i am guessing and not be certain i'm right.What if the claim were of a different nature? What if the claim were that the ball would be whatever color you believed it to be the moment before the box was opened?
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@secularmerlin
If that is the only case... i would simply smile and say, i don't believe you. I really don't care about faith only. There needs to be reasons and logic behind their decision.
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@secularmerlin
Yes. Some things can change my opinion. It depends on the person's reasons for thinking it's red. If they are logical and believable, i would have more confidence in the color.
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@secularmerlin
No i couldn't ... but blue would be a better guess in my opinion since it is a much more popular color. The probabilities of other colors are much more likely... green and blue... especially if the box is small. There are way more blue and green balls. Tennis balls, racket balls. Then... even in golf balls, red is not a popular color. So logic would tell me i have a good chance it's not a red ball and i'd be confident in not accepting said persons claim.
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@secularmerlin
In any case, i wouldn't believe said person in the scenario you are painting. Rational is right there could be more to it... but if it's just i know said person never looked and is telling me he/she knows... then, nope, not believable.
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@secularmerlin
Well you are saying "they" now... but that doesn't matter. If i know they both haven't seen in the box i wouldn't believe either of them. I'd listen to their logic... if it sounds faulty (or a guess), i would rather make my own hypothesis (guess).
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@secularmerlin
i wouldn't believe that person. If it is their box and they've had it for a long time, i might take their word for it over another's merely bc it's their box and it would be a logical bet... but, if i knew he/she never looked in the box ... no i wouldn't take said person's word on it.
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@RationalMadman
Yeah i know. I just appreciate creativity. It's a pretty straight forward "no" i wouldn't take his word for it situation for me, and that's just boring.
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@secularmerlin
Should you simply accept my word?
I would say.. heck no i wouldn't take your word for it. If we are guessing... i'd rather choose my own color.
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@RationalMadman
Hey i'd bet on purple too... what if half of it was red and half blue... both guys knew but you ultimately were the one right bc they melted in the box ;p
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@RationalMadman
What colors make purple?
Lol... that was creative.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Okay so you asked for the dark deck. That's a bold move. The thing with this deck is that it can be brutal in how it defines the cards. I find it to be better than the light deck i have bc it will tell you darker stuff instead of keeping it all light and hopeful.
So, i also do a three card read. It's suppose to be past, present, future... but i interpret it a little different every time depending on what i get. The thing with this is, only you'll get the timeline. It can be hours or years in regards to what it's talking about. Since i don't know your question... i'm not sure what the timeline is, so you'll just have to interpret that part.
For your past card i got the 3 of wands *upright*. This card means you're anxiously awaiting the rewards of your labor or reflection on one's efforts. You have been putting time into something that you want to be resolved or get some kind of results from. Your present card is the 8 of swords *upright*. This card means Bondage. Being controlled by outside forces. Censorship. Restrictions. This tells me whatever you had in your past you want results from is being stopped by something or someone. It is not allowing you to progress it forward how you want it to go forward. You feel trapped is the sense i get from the two together. The future card was 10 of cups *upside-down*. This card means family strife. ended friendships. Disruption of normal routines. I would say whatever it is you are going towards... this says the results won't be as you want them to be if you don't pin point the disruption. There is going to be some kind of disruption from allowing you to get the results you are looking for. Since the card was upside down, i feel it is saying that someone or something is holding you back from getting the results you want for whatever question this answers. Upright it would mean loving and peaceful surroundings, so i don't interpret this as you can't get it... you just have to pin point what / who is holding you back from getting the result you are seeking or looking for. If you don't take that factor out.. it can disrupt your result, even keep you from it. But with the future card i always say, if it isn't upright, that you can make it upright by figuring out what it is holding you back from getting the result you are looking for.
K... hope that wasn't too dark ;p I'm sometimes way off, but i hope this was a good reading. I was feeling it the whole time you brought this up. I haven't done a reading in some time.
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@TwoMan
No bc we are already a part of it not separate. Just like the sand analogy. The sandcastle isn't separate from the infinite sand, it's just manifested into a physical form or shape. When it goes out, it goes back into the sand and becomes a part of the source again. Same thing with my belief. We are all a part of an infinite consciousness ("source"). When we are one with it we are also everything, "oneness" ... This source is everything going on right now, everything in the future, everything basically... but all simultaneously. Therefore, for what it already knows to experience, each piece needs to manifest and experience. The source is basically experiencing itself. This is my favorite spiritual platform, i like others too... but this one makes most sense to me for some reason.
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@Shed12
By definition one is suppose to be real and one is suppose to not be real. It really depends how you are looking at the definition. But if i am defining it the way i just did, one could say reality is real and an illusion is not real / false. If we don't go down rabbit holes, that is what seems to be going on presently. Going down a rabbit hole, i don't think you can prove this life isn't an illusion.
There are many platforms spiritual / philosophical that can take you either way. My personal spiritual belief, nondualism, has a pantheistic type of platform. What is real or reality is whatever consciousness is experiencing. When we die, we all become one consciousness but this source is everything and everyone. I would say that is the true reality. But then, this would also be a true reality and not much of an illusion. For, this source lives every experience that it already knows in a physical sense for everything to experience individually.
It's like infinite sand. In that infinite sand everything exists. To experience and actualize something, one must create a sandcastle. But even if you don't that sandcastle exists in the sand. Reality would be the infinite sand, than another reality would be the manifestation of the things within the sand into the physical to experience. Therefore, this reality would be real and the reality of oneness would also be real. So if you ask me personally, i don't think anything is an illusion "not real." It's like having a dream or imagining and everything you imagine is living individually.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Pretty darn accurate to my current work situation. Thank you! Oh... and yeah, it is really freaky getting the same cards after shuffling and cutting the deck. lol. I'll do a reading for you next chance i get.
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@Mopac
Is that another way of calling me a devil again... jesus man. I guess since i don't 'tremble' i'm right. Anyways... good deflection again. You are a pro at it. If you don't see how your vagueness is a problem, no one will take you seriously.
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@Mopac
I believe the Ultimate Reality is God... i believe the Ultimate Truth is that we cannot escape the Ultimate Truth. Wow... look at that. We believe the same; making you a Satanist too.
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@Mopac
You have to understand that you look a certain way to me as well, and I am at least courteous enough to admit that this is how things look rather than make godly declarations. It would be silly of me to claim to completely understand what to me appears to be lying vanities and pagan delusion. Madness is not something to be understood. But here I am, suffering your pretense i. Order to allow you to explain yourself. Instead, you mock and scoff at me for explaining why what you say looks the way it does.
From what i can remember you are the only one scoffing and ridiculing my beliefs. Calling me a witch and satanist doesn't help your case. I have put a lot of thought into multiple beliefs and am always willing to discuss them. For heaven's sake, i started asking you about your belief bc i found it to be interesting the way you describe it since it sounds like what i would say as a pantheist... yet, when i ask questions you deflect or say it's pagan nonsense.
Asking you questions and for definitions is not mocking or scoffing... it's giving you a chance to explain why you believe what you believe. As i have come to find, most don't know the implications of what they believe and all i do is explain them to see how you have justified these implications. I have yet to even get close to that destination with you... bc all you do is deflect and stay vague. And if i do ridicule, i am ridiculing that not your belief (i truly have no idea what you believe).
A common thing with religious people is, inexperience. Most religious people are use to debating atheists... debating someone spiritual always seems to blindside them. It seems to be applying to you as well.
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@RationalMadman
I suspect he has no idea what he believes. He just heard it somewhere, thought it sounded genius and now advocates it incessantly. But when you start breaking it down ... he clearly hasn't thought about it much. I'm just pressing him bc he said his god is like panentheism. I'm a pantheist/panentheist... and he calls me satanic Lmfao. I think that speaks volumes to how much he's actually thought about it or is even capable of thinking about the implications.
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@Mopac
A gear in a clock is not a clock.
So god is a part of but not all of reality...Lol man, you really have to make your mind up...
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@Polytheist-Witch
I'm California time btw so if you are from the east coast i will probably see it when i get home from work.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Okay. Just post it for me since i might go to bed. I'll get to it in the morning if i do pass out early.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Can you do a general reading for me? Oh... and let me know if you want me to do one for you. If you do want one... tell me which deck you want me to read from Dark or Light.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Cool!! can you do one for me? I'll do one for you when i get home (if it's okay with you).
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@janesix
A few things one can understand that dreams help with has to do with you waking experiences. If you are trying to get good at something you may dream of it and figure out new ways to get better... plus, it's been shown that it does help you improve whatever activity you are doing if you dream of it. Dreams are also a way to deal with difficult situations. In the old days, if you had a dream of wolves attacking you... you would better better prepared if it actually happened in real life. If you dream of a family member passing away... you will be hurt a little less when it does happen. It prepares you for things that can happen in life.
With all that said, i also think dreams are prophetic. I've personally had dreams warn me of situations that i had no idea would happen. I've had dreams of tragic events that came true. I've had dreams that guided me to something i otherwise would not have done if the dream didn't set my direction. The above is obviously scientific, and this second stuff is pseudoscience. Therefore i don't know for sure... but, i can tell you i've had some really crazy spiritual experiences from dreams. 2 to be exact were profound.
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@Shed12
Illusion and reality are different by definition but that's about it. You have no way to know if this reality is an illusion. Or, if illusions are how we live in realities. There are some illegal hallucinogens you can take, but the most potent to illustrate how blurred reality/illusion can be is a hallucinogen call Salvia. It's legal in most states and you can buy it in most smoke shops. What this particular drug does when you smoke it (watch videos how to) is that it basically kills you in this reality and takes you to another. You totally forget you took a drug. There can be a helicopter landing in your living room and you'll feel the wind, you can touch it, hear it, etc. For 5 to 15 minutes you believe whatever you see is real. After experiencing this... i truly have zero confidence in saying this reality 'isn't' an illusion of some sort.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Hey!!! Where have you been? I kept wondering where you went off to...
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@Mopac
But taking yourself as being God is dang near the premise of what satanism is, so you shouldn't be surprised if people say you are professing satanism.
Anyone that calls me a Satanist is simply ignorant to the plethora of different spiritual platforms that there are. Yes... in my platform i am god but at the same time i'm Hitler too, and a chair. Simply, you cannot prove to me that i am separate of anything. You can't prove where i end and something else begins. Only my consciousness my ego is separate for good reason. God can't experience if every piece of god isn't experiencing.
The Ultimate Reality is God, that isn't the same thing as saying all reality is God.
1) Then you are not a Panentheist. 2) Isn't the Ultimate Reality all reality... you are very confused.
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@Goldtop
I don't think he was much of a philosopher so there are some here that have deeper thoughts than i think he did. Plus, i am pretty sure i know more than he does in certain things like music, games, etc. I don't know him, so who knows. But... he most def. was a science genius. However, i think to be as good as he was at what he did... by design, he wasn't very good at other things like philosophizing about spirituality. I doubt he thought of it as much as someone obsessed about the subject as he was about science. With that said, you should have said smarter than all the religious theists combined. Bc i think he knew their religion better than they do.Because he was smarter than all of us put together.
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@janesix
Yes and no. I imagine "god" is everything. It is all emotions, all people, all animals, everything in this reality and others. Therefore, god isn't really a who but an it. It's everything simultaneously.
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@Mopac
It's easy to call someone a Satanist and run away from telling them why... actually, as a panentheist, you also believe god is satan and lucifer is jesus. Panentheism is non-duality. We are all one. God is also a rapist, Hitler, an animal being eaten by a lion, a baby being aborted, a starving African child, a person being shot in the head, a depressed teen shooting himself in the head, a person that dies alone, a person that found their love after years and loses her to cancer a year later, god is a mobster chopping up his prisoner, a person being tortured by gangs, a child being molested, the molester, god is a Jew in a gas chamber, god is Cesar being stabbed, a teen dying from a opiate overdose on the street, god is a transsexual that cuts his wrist due to society. Do you see what god is? And... being all this and feeling all this and more Christians think god has beef with gays. Lmao how much religious people don't understand god. But one day you will bc you will also become god and everything i just mentioned. Why do you think pantheism isn't mainstream... it's the uncomfortable truth.
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