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@Aporia
I've actually appreciated the transparency in Trump's eh, winning attitude.  Usually I find his lies are so obvious and at least the people interested in the conservative spectrum I speak with have no issue recognizing it. To me its simply the same thing that always goes on, except obvious to a wider swath of people than normal.

 There is also the "alternative media" trend.  Although, its of course great to diversify, not everyone understands how amorphous the Internet can be.  The freedom to choose information has become more accessible faster than our culture has developed.

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Morality Explained(?)
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@keithprosser
Is ethic the same as morality in your view?  

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@ethang5
Your concession is noted.

Why would anyone advocate to treat a victim like a perp?
What is adhoc?

All citizens have a right to life and should be held to justice for the commission of a crime, including government employees.  


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@ethang5
Riiiigggghhhtt, the mob decides that life is sacred unless it isn't.
Does reality matter to you? Our laws were not decided by mob.
Then drop this "we" stuff, and don't let others punish your own people with death.  


Okay my judgemental friend, additionally you haven't addressed the fact that both a life sentence and the death penalty, which your country can afford, end up placing someone in custody of the state as a necessary evil until death
I am only addressing conservative positions. The silly state of our death penalty system is due to liberals. Death row is expensive only because bleeding heart liberals siding with the criminal make the system needlessly drawn out.
Please, letting you breathe is hardly a concession to siding with you.  And you STILL have not addressed the point that this contends.  You aren't even pro-life


...and you want to take death into "our" hands because "life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.
Conservatives believe justice matters, you don't. Go figure. You think the penalty is stupid, but you think so because your brain has been addled by PC nonsense. You go around treating life like a jihadist, and you will get the injection. Deal with it.
You haven't demonstrated that justice does not matter because we expect from everyone not to risk life unnecessarily.  You can't change the wrong nature of the death penalty by demonstrating your own failing to recognize humanity.  No matter how bad the deed, you still know your motives aren't justified.  

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@ethang5
Riiiigggghhhtt, the mob decides that life is sacred unless it isn't.  Okay my judgemental friend, additionally you haven't addressed the fact that both a life sentence and the death penalty, which your country can afford, end up placing someone in custody of the state as a necessary evil until death....and you want to take death into "our" hands because "life is sacred"....oh wait, that's not your position at all, because you think the sacredness of life gets a time out for your stupid penalty.
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@ethang5
No.
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@ethang5
Death is not a higher penalty then subjectship until death. 
Conservatives do not want slaves, they want justice.
Then we agree, and logically you expect the same thing conservatives that don't support the death penalty do, except you choose death as a "penalty".  The only reason the death sentence is warranted is for protection.
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@ethang5
In your locality it might very well be accepted so that people are tricked for voting party over interest, just as an example.  It's not accepted as such in mine.

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@ethang5
"Because we value life we demand the highest penalty"

Death is not a higher penalty then subjectship until death.  I bet you are just cheap.  If you aren't then you are still an advocate for subjectship till death.

Also, you sound like a socialist or something with this "we" stuff.



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@ethang5
I don't mean to ignore political history.  To me it just makes sense to have a common basis for "liberalism".  It's a fairly broad term that is certainly not synonymous with a political party.  As an example of complication someone is making reference to "conservatives" as seperate when in fact there are conservative liberals and social liberals.  It may be possible to avoid such obvuscations normally caused for political interest, or by general ignorance.
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@ethang5
If you want to discuss liberalism I would recommend leaving the two party system in America out of it and providing a definition.

Also you made a mistake on the death penalty.  Supporting the death penalty is definitely on the deathly side of things in an advanced nation.

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@Stephen
Ok stephenham.  Out of curiousity, do you think your son is going to survive the sacrifice?
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@Stephen
You asked a question, haven't worked out anything.  The question you are replying to goes unanswered
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@Stephen
How do you work out something that is literally impossible?
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Abraham Was Backward
Almost every character accounted in the Bible could be called backward.  
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@PGA2.0
Your last one almost sounds compatible with Islam.  If there is evil which can't be in the presence of God then God must be distant and we must submit to the truth and struggle to be with God.  It brings up complications with Christianity.  
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The psychology of atheism
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@disgusted
Thank you, I was thinking about changing that last sentence myself.
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@Ramshutu
Yeah, there are stupid people who are going to virtue signal to their stupid club demonstrating their capacity to mitigate their stupidness.  Big deal.  There's also a friggin violent hate group.  Nobody cares about your views on welfare in this context.
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The psychology of atheism
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@keithprosser
Do you know of any other isms that denote a lack of belief?  I give zero $#@% about race except as other people's beliefs effect those around them in the world I was born into so I guess that makes me aracist.  I used to lack belief but now I think I have disbelief I might act upon.  I think it's less confusing to say, you don't believe in something if that's genuinely the case than provide a dualistic definition.  Atheism should either denote belief contrary to the root or disbelief for it to have any philosophical utility.  One would imagine it was originally coined to express denial.
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@Ramshutu
Why would most people think that way?  

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@Greyparrot
They are like an inversion of the KKK, a hate group.
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The psychology of atheism
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@keithprosser
I don't really talk about atheism but from what I have read, it can be sort of like describing all the known characteristics of the machine without actually acknowledging that there might be a machine.  That is specifically for something like science worship on the Internet though.  I wouldn't say pupose in the universe coincides with predisposition to theology. 
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Okay, this is epic
Generally, reporters should have a healthy fear in that room for being disorderly.  The proceeding of information needs to be prioritized for the American people alternatively without proper ethics and anyone would be correct in asserting the shame that Acosta represents.  Hopefully it's not being politicized more than it has to be.  Obviously there's an inherent interest for the Whitehouse to save face with all the leverage placed on it as acting with inappropriate authority against the press through the bully pulpit.  In reality, the press maintains more control over the president's ability to exercise it, but that doesn't matter. Sarah''s contradiction with Trump's rhetoric would be ironic to say the least.
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Okay, this is epic
According to my 1 minute search there are thought to be over 300 million televisions and over 200 million smart phones in the US.  Over 10+ million tablets were sold recently in a single year.
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Okay, this is epic
Holy crap, seems not long ago during the last president's administration it was thought to be in the low 300's, about one per person.  The market observers disagree about not having enough though, said to be in the "Trump slump" right now.  I wonder how many media devices we have.

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Can someone explain how this works to me?  I would assume you need to cut frames to digitally "speed up" part of a video.  I can't verify this twitter guy's work.  Is there a doctored infowars video that matches exactly what Sarah Sanders uploaded onto her twitter?  
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@1harderthanyouthink
There is no shortage of coverage for this event.  What relevant information to the behavior of Mr. Acosta is missing from the video?
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why do people need an AR15?
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@disgusted
What country are you from?  

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murder rate only higher in the usa when you look at gun murder rate = murder more likely with guns
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Maybe democrats could put people to work making little government gun safes to hand out and promote responsibility.  No lock, no glock!
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murder rate only higher in the usa when you look at gun murder rate = murder more likely with guns
There's a problem that I have had too, in trying to consider the causations within correlation and that is that if we study for example, a gun law, and the statistical effect surrounding it, we'll it doesn't happen in a vacuum. Maybe it's in a setting where politicians are utilizing an irrational scapegoat which is regionally unpopular while actual problems recycle, or maybe it's accompanied by people who get fed up with crime and decide to kick it's ass all around.  Really as it pertains to crime the policy just has to make sense with a state's approach to law enforcement and the culture of residents.
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murder rate only higher in the usa when you look at gun murder rate = murder more likely with guns
The murder rate has been generally higher in the US for a long time, predating illiberal gun control.  Not sure exactly how to compare it correctly to the pansy nations, like britain, Canada, Australia etc... The US is big enough that there isn't really a shortage for sample size anyway.  Obviously there are cultures within the US that contain terrible outlook on this stuff in unusual amount, generally not so bad as our southern counterparts though.  Some parts of the US are safer than say, Canada, and some are more in line with a "developing" country.
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@linate
I think sports cars are cool, and speeding tickets are appropriate for public roads.  Proven and practical safety features should be prioritized in a manner which increases the supply to a point where consumers can make free informed decisions in the current system.  
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Would limiting Canadians on the site improve it
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@Wylted
Canadians are so marginalized they aren't even worth oppressing.  You are done for buddy
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The irrefutable actual difference between the genders and their brains.
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@RationalMadman
Some boys are raised to be gentleman

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Evidence For The Existence of God
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@PGA2.0
The separation of church and state is not a secular philosophy except to people who reject religion.
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Live Midterms Chat
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@Vader
The paper shredder is jammed!

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atheism and relativism.
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@keithprosser
Out of curiosity, which laws cited in the study of physics are you referring to?
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Brasil says no to communism
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@David
What are you talking about? 
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@Greyparrot

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@linate
How is buying a legal AR-15 is supposed to increase your chance of experiencing a murderous rampage?  I think maybe there should be a warning label or required consent so consumers know what they are getting into.

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Satan is not Lucifer. Lucifer is Jesus in angel-form.
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@disgusted
True love never dies
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Sir, to your point, why can't they just place more burdensome controls as they are able to get support until they reach the .380?
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why do people need an AR15?
I've spoken with three people on why they own an AR.  One guy, a hobbiest and hunter, built his and the platform and market suppprt was just nice to work with, and he liked the caliber, thought it was reliable.  He would occasionally use it for varminting, which the typical .223 is suitible for with a nice flat trajectory.  One guy was generally well off, had a small collection and looked into  the black rifles as he is patriotic and saw advertisements posted by the Obama administration, and ended up liking the AR-15, so he just bought one almost on a whim and plinks with it regularly.  And a woman liked the way hers fit and just thought it was awesome, loves practicing with it semi-competitively.  She is recoil sensitive because of a shoulder injury, and smaller than a typical shooter.

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@warren42
You go to war with the can opener you have
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@secularmerlin
Of course that's ignoring the potential problem of perspective.  I contend that if someone doesn't accept your claim that the empire state building is 10 feet tall then it still might be ten feet tall and you are the only person who has ruled out all other possibilities.  The other person has not and can say, index for later use.

The same applies to your views on the ball.  The other person is not necessarily rejecting your specified claim on the color of a ball.  You have an exclusive mindset and they may not.


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I am voting Republican. I just can't do this anymore. I don't hate anyone, but...
Personal stuff can always be brought up to vote one way or the other.  There are supposedly people who feel offended that you can be accused of something without evidence and end up in a decent position.  I think unless there was an official party endorsement of something you might want to just look up if the representatives in your district reacted inappropriately.  I don't think you should support a party as punishment in general, and the implicated idea that you need to be on the team with a party is also troublesome.
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The default position.
I mean, I might consider the idea if it occurs to me, but you seem kind of hypothetically self centered and might not have gotten a message accross.  Were you ruling out possibilities right in front of me and not just saying anything last night?  I don't think I'd have noted that the way you did unless we talked about it because I don't care.  I don't remember you making a claim, and don't see any reason to consider the new example itself a claim except as you claim now.  We can also roll with the answers you were given anyway too I guess and I'll just correct any mistakes I claimed.  
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@secularmerlin
How do you suppose I know that without a higher perspective?  How do we know how I would consider the idea if it occurs to me?

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@secularmerlin
There is no such claim that I'm aware of.
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@secularmerlin
Firstly, you only stated in the hypothetical that you ruled out all the other possibilties.  Secondly, I have no belief in  your balls.  I don't recall ruling out any options.
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