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@WaterPhoenix
1. Speedrace- lean town: decently active and provided helpful char and role info
What character and role info has Speed provided?
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@oromagi
as we have joked, Speed has won multiple recent games as scum and his recent gameplay had definitely been much quieter, holding his cards close.
I mean, previous games (probably) don't affect this one, but his playstyle is a bit sus. He went in early and hard (and seemed to single me out) and then just disappeared, despite being online 3 hours ago, which would be around 3-4 PM. His last remark in this thread was made at 1:15 PM, meaning he would have had the opportunity to see the updates on this thread (and read others). His last (and so far only) substantive post was made at 9:23 AM, while all the later ones were just variations of "lol".
Ok I'm really starting to scumread Speedrace.
User is new and noobs are notoriously difficult to evaluate. I don't mind tossing a noob into the fire but I'm not likely to read with confidence.
Yeah, I guess. He generally did the same behaviour as the last game and he turned out town. But it's possible that he's using his scumminess as a cloak, so we have to keep a close eye on him.
By far, the most incongruous game-play at this early stage is Supa, who is generally quite ebullient and always seems like scum though he seldom is.I think we should hammer that nail until its flush or bent
I mean, in general Supa hasn't been too active in the past 2 days, so I don't really think it's an indication of anything.
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@Crocodile
User2006 seems like he's in kahoots with Speedrace tho.
You're saying Speed is Scum, right?
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@RationalMadman
If he's town, then he definitely isn't helping our cause.
But then again, he did the same thing the last time and turned out to be town.
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@oromagi
What do you think of Speedrace and User right now?
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Now that I think about it, Speed is more likely to be scum.
His insistence that I substantiate my claim this early on sounds like scum trying to get an early wagon on.
Besides that, all he posted was fluff.
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@WaterPhoenix
Oh, and I feel like I'm missing something. Did user edit or delete one of his posts or something?
User deleted one of his posts (which Oro shows in his reply)
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@BearMan
Interesting. What reasons do you have for putting Waterphoenix as town?
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@User_2006
Remember, I can do nothing during the day. My role only does something during the night period. Everything I say is unjustified conviction, except when I contribute nothing to the discussion.
You can make preliminary reads, which are better than nothing.
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@User_2006
Believe what you wish to believe. I might be scum. I might be town. Who knows? Only me and an unproved-of-existing god.
Unhelpful town is just as bad as scum, so either way you are not helping with this.
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@Crocodile
Well, he was lurking for over an hour before he made that comment which popped up before I made that post (I hadn't seen it yet as my browser hadn't refreshed until after I made my post)
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@Crocodile
That's why I made the full claim, like I said, I might remove it later.
Wait, where did you make a full claim?
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@RationalMadman
@Crocodile
Also why is Supadudz so quiet? It's possible he changed over time, I remember him loud as town.
is he online?
Supadudz was last online 21 hours ago, so he isn't lurking
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@RationalMadman
*simplybeourselvesnot alwaysbeyourself
whoops lol
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My town reads (not at all conclusive):
PressF4Respect
Lean town
RationalMadman (giving good reads and insights)
Crocodile (seems like he has good initiative, though also pushing for a full claim. In between lean town and null.)
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Null
waterphoenix (gave some good input, though not enough for a lean town read)
oromagi (has participated so far, but not enough substantive info yet for a lean town read)
Bearman (nothing substantive yet)
SupaDudz (hasn't posted yet)
warren42 (hasn't posted yet)
LittleCookie08 (hasn't posted yet)
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Lean scum
Speedrace (pushing for a full claim this early on. Other than that, it's just fluff.)
alwaysbeyourself (#16 seems sus. It needs investigating.)
User_2006 (Not claiming based on lack of evidence for Speedrace. This needs investigating.)
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
I can tell you what the roots are [1], all we need now is a solution that most people will accept.
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@oromagi
your profile is the virtue signaler final boss
Ouch! Oro, the #1 debater! How are you going to respond to this solid, well-thought-out rebuttal!?!?!?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Do you think if there was a way to reverse the fatherless homes that would help with the societal problems more than pretty much anything the government could do? Poverty and education being a couple of the big ones?
The way I see it, fatherless homes are more of a symptom rather than the disease itself.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Yes, I agree to an extent. However, I don't agree with how certain people (like Betsy DeVos) are tackling this issue. The core issue with poorly performing schools is the relative poverty that the surrounding communities face, and defunding public schools in favour of private ones would only make the situation worse (as those poorer communities would be less able to provide for private education).
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
By tracking longitudinally a sample of American children (n = 1,097), this study examined the extent to which enrollment in private schools between kindergarten and ninth grade was related to students’ academic, social, psychological, and attainment outcomes at age 15. Results from this investigation revealed that in unadjusted models, children with a history of enrollment in private schools performed better on nearly all outcomes assessed in adolescence. However, by simply controlling for the sociodemographic characteristics that selected children and families into these schools, all of the advantages of private school education were eliminated. There was also no evidence to suggest that low-income children or children enrolled in urban schools benefited more from private school enrollment. [1]
Discrepancies in grades have a lot more to do with the children that enter into the school than the school itself.
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@Crocodile
I don't expect everyone to be claiming in DP1, but it is definitely strange to say you aren't claiming because of the lack of concrete evidence of someone else.
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Good luck everybody who is on my team.
This is a very weird way of saying town, and it should be raising some red flags.
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@User_2006
However I am not voting or claiming because there is no concrete evidence to be used on whatsoever.
Also, what does you claiming have to do with Speedrace?
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@Speedrace
Monty makes wayyyyy more sense as miller 😂 literally investigated as cops and literally came up as guilty when he wasn't. Alex was literally guilty but investigated by cops and came up innocent, which would make him godfather. So I'm slightly suspicious. What's your justification?
At his core, Alex is an innocent person, who was devastated by the actions that he did. He was kind and caring in his heart. Although on the outside he seems like a monster (he is on the tapes), on the inside he is just an innocent little soul who feels genuine guilt for his wrongdoing, which leads him to shoot himself on the head.
Also, he drowned Bryce in the ocean(which seems heinous on the outside) but was doing it in an attempt to protect his friends, and felt deep regret afterwards.
Dirty and monstrous on the outside, innocent on the inside. That is why I'm miller.
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(besides the fact that making Speedrace scum is basically a running gag at this point)
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@User_2006
What, based on your instinct, makes you think it's Speedrace?
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@Speedrace
I'm Alex, but I guess I could see why you'd say Monty
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@ILikePie5
Tell Oro that
(and see how he dissolves your argument point-by-point)
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@ILikePie5
I updated my previous post, just to let you know.
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@ILikePie5
Can’t read that on mobile cause of formatting. Explain it to me tho. Is it wrong to say I’m more concerned about your kid than you when it comes to police brutality?
The first part he said was this:
- Let's note that both of Gaetz' s assertions are straw men
- You are asserting that none of us have non-white children.
- RIchmond never said anything of the kind.
- He said you are all white men who do not know what it is like to be an African-American male.
- That's objectively true so Gaetz had no hope of refuting so he creates a false claim that some white men don't have non-white children. RIchmond tells Gaetz to sit down.
The main crux of his argument (the part that directly counters your argument) is this:
- Then Gaetz falsely asserts Richmond is claiming to be more concerned about Gaetz family than Gaetz.
- Richmond said, If one of the black males getting killed by cops is Gaetz's then Richmond is objectively more concerned about his welfare than Gaetz.
- But none of the black males getting killed cops is Gaetz's so Richmond's conditional is not met and Richmond made no such claim.
Also this:
- In fact, Gaetz has no black son
- In fact, Gaetz has no wife or kids
- In fact, Gaetz lied repeatedly about adopting an immigrant son who is actually just a kid who lives with Gaetz under some fairly suspect circumstance. Gaetz claims that their relationship is based on love and not paperwork but 12 year old boys making their primary residence with unmarried congressman is a circumstance that requires a lot of paperwork to be anything like legal
- Either Gaetz thinks of the boy as family and has lied about denied the boy's membership in his family for 7 years or he never thought of the boy as family until such a claim offered some political expedience.
- Either way, we can say without fear of contradcition that Matt Gaetz is the worst fucking father ever.
- Which, even if Gaetz's houseboy were black would still affirm Richmond's claim. There is no version of this story in which it is not objectively true that Richmond cares more about Gaetz's fake black son than Gaetz does.
In short, this:
Richmond never claimed to care more about Gaetz's son than Gaetz. Gaetz has no children and only started pretending to have children after Richmond's claim. Therefore, you have no ground for complaint. Certainly nothing worth the condemnation and punishment you call for.
(I know I didn't really explain it so much as retype Oro's argument into a more mobile-friendly format, but you can still read it on your phone, so you can get a clear understanding of what he said)
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@Greyparrot
@TheDredPriateRoberts
@ILikePie5
So... none of you are going to address #54? It's laid bare, right in front of your eyes.
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@bmdrocks21
Yeah, it's a vicious cycle.
The more disillusioned people are about the system, the less likely they are to vote, which makes the politicians who are elected less accountable (as they would be appealing to a smaller part of the nation). Rinse and repeat.
This becomes an even greater issue when it comes to representation. If fewer people of a certain group vote, then politicians would be less incentivized to appeal to that particular group. As a result, that group has no reason to be attached to any particular candidate, except that they are better than the alternative.
Case in point: Despite winning 55% of the youth vote, only 18% of young Clinton supporters reported being "excited" about their candidate. [1]
Doing some simple arithmetic, 18% of 55% of the youth vote is 9.9%.
This means that only ~10% of youth voters actually felt excited about a Clinton presidency, despite 55% of them voting for Clinton.
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@WaterPhoenix
Also, I just checked, but you can do both. Clicking the title of the thread will bring you to the first page while clicking on where it says "Last Post: X amount of time ago" will bring you to the most recent post.
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@zedvictor4
I mean, I can't say you're wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@WaterPhoenix
No, but what if it's your first time on the thread.
Then you would probably go onto the first page.
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@Greyparrot
“Black people in the streets are getting killed and if one of them happens to be your kid, I’m concerned about him too. And clearly I’m more concerned about him than you are,”-Cedric Richmond
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@Greyparrot
“Black people in the streets are getting killed and if one of them happens to be your kid, I’m concerned about him too. And clearly I’m more concerned about him than you are,”-Cedric Richmond
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@Greyparrot
“Black people in the streets are getting killed and if one of them happens to be your kid, I’m concerned about him too. And clearly I’m more concerned about him than you are,”-Cedric Richmond
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@bmdrocks21
@Trent0405
Ah yes, I vote A because they are the least worst candidate.
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@Greyparrot
It's okay, because Cedric put him back on topic.“Black people in the streets are getting killed and if one of them happens to be your kid, I’m concerned about him too. And clearly I’m more concerned about him than you are,”-Cedric Richmond
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@bmdrocks21
Isn't it, though?I reduce time on this site for one month, and look what happens!!!
Ikr, those dang libtards back at it again.
Mafia has died. Must be as a result of the machinations of those scheming, devious, Biden-loving democucks.
#Trump2024
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@Dr.Franklin
notice how my post wasnt directed at anyone
So... you weren't talking to anyone else in this thread?
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