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@Double_R
That's exactly my point. In fact it's the single biggest reason I oppose Trump so vehemently. The guy is a flat out moron, and now he's literally making this country dumber. As little as a few weeks ago the idea of the US annexing Canada was so stupid it wasn't even worth thinking about let alone talking about, now here we are.
It's not just Left wingers that can shift the overton window. Sharing is caring.
Putin's interest is watching the US burn
Having the US fall by annexing Canada?
so imagine his delight as he watches our collective IQ sink to the bottom of the Potomac.
I don't know about your IQ, but mine is 142.
We are a country now that can't even agree on who won the prior election
It was Biden. Nothing contradictory about not being an election denier and wanting to annex Canada.
As little as a few weeks ago the idea of the US annexing Canada was so stupid it wasn't even worth thinking about let alone talking about, now here we are.
I've had the belief for about a decade, but Trump allowed me to express it with weight behind it.
Without him giving voice to and normalizing the stupidest people among us and the stupidest ideas imaginable, none of these things are even up for discission.
If you don't like debating ideas, then get off of DART.
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@Double_R
I would also contend that the reason why you couldn't substantively attack my case is because you have none of your own. So you should do the responsible thing and join my side on this issue. :)
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@GreyPerrot
If that's the case, then MA still has it, so it works for them.
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@Double_R
Well Trump said so, so now let's all pretend this is a perfectly normal and rational proposal to debate.
Roughly 25% of the US population agrees with annexing Canada; only 49% disagree (Canada as 51st State? Four-in-five Americans say a merger should be up to Canadians; 90% of us say ‘no’ -).
Your view is more common; but don't act like it's out of the Overton window. It's not. Overton windows shift. Sometimes they shift left; other times they shift right.
I'm a progressive; I support progressively annexing Canada.
I'm a progressive; I support progressively annexing Canada.
Vladimir Putin is laughing his ass off at the ROI on his 2016 investment.
What would Putin care if the US annexes Canada?
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Why the US should annex Canada: More land, more people, more GDP.
There is 1 main argument why Canadians are opposed and 1 main argument why American liberals are opposed.
The Canadian argument: Policy (namely Medicare for all).
If Canada joined the United States, then initially, every Canadian state would have Medicare for all and the rest of the United States wouldn't. Either Medicare for all is a net negative or it's a net positive. If the former is accurate, then the Canadian states would get rid of M4A voluntarily. If the ladder is accurate, then the rest of the North American United States copy the idea voluntarily. The process in favor of the superior idea winning gets expedited by competing ideas being in the same nation and we improve regardless; because it would be democracy in action and would allow for the battle place of ideas.
The US liberal argument: Policy (namely self-determination).
Self determination is objectively irrelevant; the liberals acknowledge this with which nation Crimea belongs too; they want Crimea to be with Ukraine even though most Crimeans want to join Russia. The liberals don't regard self determination with any consistent degree of relevancy and they should cease to pretend that they do.
I'm fine with Crimea being with Ukraine if Canada gets annexed by the United States.
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I will accept his apology if he accomplishes at least one of the following actions:
Action 1: Only preach in favor of the Measels vaccine and never against it for 2 months AND take a picture of himself receiving the Measels vaccine as proof of his concession within 14 days from March 1, 2025.
Action 2: Only preach in favor of vaccines in general and never against any FDA approved vaccines for 1 month AND take a picture of himself receiving all the approved vaccinations as proof of his concession within 72 hours from March 1, 2025.
Action 3: Only preach in favor of the Measels vaccine and never against it for 6 months AND take a picture of himself receiving the Measels vaccine as proof of his concession within 6 months from March 1, 2025.
Action 4: Only preach in favor of vaccines in general and never against any FDA approved vaccines for 2 months AND take a picture of himself receiving all the approved vaccinations as proof of his concession within 2 months from March 1, 2025.
Forgiveness requires repentance.
RFK should prove he's apologetic by getting vaccinated and becoming pro vax in rhetoric.
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There are Indian scammers (some Muslims) and there are Nigerian scammers (some Muslims). Same with Pakistan.
Nobody is like, "Hey; there is an Egyptian or South African scammer".
Islam is the ORIGINAL Green New Scam!
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There was this woman I met who now lives in TX. She got pregnant and she said it would be very hard for her to keep and raise the child.
So I got here a pack of these.
I don't know what color the child will grow up to like; they need clothes, and you need a place to store them.
I don't know what color the child will grow up to like; they need clothes, and you need a place to store them.
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@Savant
That is whether or not the constitution gets changed.
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@Yassine
This is the mind of inhuman terrorists but humans feel empathy.- I don't care for the emotional nonsense
Based!
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@Savant
If leaders don't respecting the laws of a country, you get civil war.
Any law a leader doesn't like they want to change.
My ideal policy is no term limits, but I don't support violating the constitution to do it.
Why not change the constitution?
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@Savant
Your only argument is status quo ism. Your ideal policy for Canada should be the same as the US. Either that, or you don't care if a place has term limits or not.
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Left wingers: How DARE Trump want a 3rd term! This is TYRANNY!!!
Me: Thoughts on term limit free Canada?
Left wingers: (Often) so angry that they can't refute it that if online, then they block me, if in person, they are frozen. They have a PARTY to stick too; Canada is left wing; so they support them; Trump is right wing; so they oppose him. This will be for Canadian and American Left Wingers alike.
There is no foreseeable wiggle room to me; it's just bold face hypocritical.
Hold Trump and Trudeau to the same standard for term limits. Either be fine with term limits for them BOTH or be against it for them BOTH.
My rule with term limits is I don't believe in term limits and I think every term should only be 1 year long. The public can vote them out if they become crazy.
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@zedvictor4
Eh British Bitch (not an insult, but ball busting); you want conservatives to stop using plastic straws to save the planet or not?
If the answer is yes, then attack their manhood.
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@Sidewalker
You put your mouth on a hose. That's gay (if you're a man), and increasing your body count too much if you're a woman (btw; plastics are made of oil, which came from actual bodies), aka, being a whore.
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Anyone that uses a plastic straw is one of the 2:
1. A man; then they're just, ... gay.
2. A woman; then they're just a whore.
Plastic straws are bad! We need to fix the environment!
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@sadolite
But they have a right to be here just like everyone one else who did it the legal and proper way.
Most people didn't work for it; most Americans were born with it.
But the argument isn't good.
Lets say there is a park, a bench, 2 old people on the bench; and they watch 2 young people walk past them with their iphones.
But the argument isn't good.
Lets say there is a park, a bench, 2 old people on the bench; and they watch 2 young people walk past them with their iphones.
The old people say, "How come THESE young people get Iphones without WAITING like we did? Ban iphones unless you wait your turn!"
Do they have a point? No.
If life becomes easier, then great!
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@Savant
I think undocumented immigrants and the native born should get the same rights in every aspect.
I think in order to vote, you need to be able to pass the citizenship test whether or not you're born here.
I think in order to vote, you need to be able to pass the citizenship test whether or not you're born here.
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@WyIted
Then state what rights they should and shouldn't have that a US Citizen gets. I've read people say that their rights don't matter; implying that it would be ok to rape them.
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Underwear has no rights; do I get to cum inside underwear without it's consent? Yes.
By saying a group of people SHOULD get no rights; you are saying it should be legal to rape them.
So either own that or admit that yes; undocumented immigrants deserve rights.
Should it be legal to rape an undocumented woman? Be honest. Because if you say they should have no rights and you're MAGA; then you would answer that as a Yes.
I'm saying No because I have a moral conscience and they should get equal rights to the native born in every aspect. But lets call a spade a spade; undocumented immigrants should get rights.
I'm saying No because I have a moral conscience and they should get equal rights to the native born in every aspect. But lets call a spade a spade; undocumented immigrants should get rights.
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@Lemming
Anti Trump = Communist according to MAGA; so alright; I'm a communist. IDGAF what you call it.
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@Sidewalker
Riots are fine if they are pro MAGA riots (and if Trump says the truth, then his followers will believe it).
Yeah; Trump should have gotten killed in Butler.
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@WyIted
You are absolutely a liar. Red states definitely want to help California.
Then they can do it easily.
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The reason is not because of economic policy (I'm fine with letting the trailer parks starve so I can save tax money); the sole reason is because Trump says anyone who hates or doesn't like him is a communist.
Alright; I'm a communist now. The label I don't really care about.
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@WyIted
Stay on topic.
You agree with Trump doing this because you will agree with anything Trump does.
Trump is your God and you aren't changing your mind because your religion is Trumpian Christainty.
You are a piece of shit to think America should lock up conservative protestors but let BLM rioters loot businesses, burn down buildings and literally murder people
If anti Trump = piece of shit to you, then yes; I am a piece of shit and so is half the country.
stop being evil
You think anti-Trump = evil. I would rather be evil.
Trump supporters are evil by MY definition.
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Why else would you pardon all these people?
Political violence is acceptable if you wear a MAGA hat according to Trump and anyone that supports Trump after this decides that this isn't a deal breaker and to me, that makes literally no sense.
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@FLRW
Yes; the Pilgrims poisoned their own blood (they should be allowed, but strongly discouraged to do this).
I was making a joke about something Trump said.
I like saying bigoted things in non bigoted contexts.
Examples:
1. I'm a sexist; I will refuse to date you if you are a man.
1. I'm a sexist; I will refuse to date you if you are a man.
2. I'm an ageist; I won't have sex with you if you're under 18.
3. I'm a racist; I think immigrants coming to America should learn English. Learning Spanish isn't as important in America as learning English and I agree with that.
4. I'm a homophobe; I won't date you if you're a gay man.
5. I'm an Islamophobe; I won't date you if you're Muslim (the implication is I would have to convert).
6. I don't believe all people are equal; I think a murderer has less value than Ghandi.
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@FLRW
If the pilgrims brought alcohol, then yes; they brought poison.
I think Americans should be allowed to poison their bodies with alcohol, but alcohol should be socially viewed as a poison, because it is.
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@WyIted
Joke went over your head.
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@Mall
Check out the links.
It's beer.
Alcohol is poison.
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@Best.Korea
Unless you are defective, I dont see why you wouldnt improve your society by having kids.
Because to improve society, I have to harm my own economic expenses.
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@Best.Korea
So you think ending your species is beneficial.
For the collective, no, for me in the long term, no. For me in the short term, yes, because less kids in school means a lower tax bill.
I don't want kids, BUT I need other people to have kids so my social security gets paid for (and so my stock prices do better). But one person having kids doesn't cause significant stock market risings; a lot of people having kids does.
My rule is let people decide for themselves if they want kids.
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@Sidewalker
Native born American = someone born in the United States.
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@Best.Korea
2nd dodge, but you published a declaration that I am willing to contest:
For the individual (many indivudals), refusing to reproduce benefits them due to the cash saved (and plausibly, mental health as well).
But you failed to state which option you've selected out of the articles I enumerated.
If you think it's retarted to not have kids, then you have 3 options:
- Reproduce (since you're a pedophile; implausible).
- Confess to being retarted (undesirable).
- Confess to being a hypocrite (immoral).
Do you pick the implausible option; the undesirable one, or the immoral one?
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@Best.Korea
You didn't indicate which option you selected. You dodged like a career politician.
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@Best.Korea
If you think it's retarted to not have kids, then you have 3 options:
- Reproduce (since you're a pedophile; implausible).
- Confess to being retarted (undesirable).
- Confess to being a hypocrite (immoral).
Do you pick the implausible option; the undesirable one, or the immoral one?
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@Sidewalker
Trailer parks is where MAGA lives.
Alright; so they prefer trailer park welfare handouts over capitalism. Just OWN that if you live in the trailer parks.
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@Best.Korea
You are good at presenting Trump's true ideology.
He wants to ban porn; I don't.
But honestly, I am fine with letting anti government people starve to death if their only source of revenue is government spending. Lets start with cutting the budget on their salaries.
They can be anti BLM and that would be fine; they could like Matt Walsh, that's fine too. They can be anti CRT or a big Andrew Tate fan and that's fine.
Just don't be against government spending broadly if you directly receive it. If you want to be specific (no funding for OTHER countries), then hey; your American; the Ukrainians are not; that's fine. Don't say, "Cut domestic spending" without specifying and expect to get government spending if I'm in charge.
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@Mharman
The difference between the California and the hurricane states is that California has been neglecting its forest management duties in its parks, directly increasing the damages caused by forest fires over there
This is fine, as long as we impose similar guidelines on Florida for their flooding management duties. Just be consistent.
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@Greyparrot
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@Mharman
Lets invite some members of the MAGA religion to see if they value capitalism more, or the trailer parks more.
I value capitalism more; fuck the trailer park trash!!!
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I've heard that red states don't want to bail out California.
Well, the next time Florida has a hurricane, the federal government and other state government should not send a dime.
I don't care if trailer park kids die; my rich Yankee tax dollars are more important than their lives and if you disagree, then you are a leftist who wants rampant government spending (or a MAGA RINO). The former I can respect; the ladder I can't.
Let Trailer Park Timmy STARVE for all I fucking care!!!
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@Shila
I call on my fellow older white males who are not part of a marginalized community to join me in shutting up
That older white male should lead by example.
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Hot take, but all of the following are accurate:
- White people's freedom of speech > Black activist's feelings.
- Male people's freedom of speech > Women activist's feelings.
- Straight people's freedom of speech > Gay activist's feelings.
If you disagree, then consider getting rid of the 1st amendment, as all socially conservative speech can be argued to be hate speech.
If this statement is racist, then I'm fine with that title, as those that believe this statement is racist argue everyone is racist.
If racism is bad, but unanimous, then it's like shitting; it stinks, but everyone does it, so there is no shame.
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@Sidewalker
So everyone in Springfield denied that Haitians were eating pets, there is no evidence whatsoever that ot has actually happened, but the fact that they voted for Trump means they were lying? Voting for Trump is evidence?
Voting more for Trump than the prior election (even relative to other counties in Ohio) is not proof, but it's evidence.
Trump said windmills make whales crazy, since he won by a large margin in Florida, and Florida is a coastal state with whales at Seaworld, so Florida votes are primary source evidence that windmills make whales crazy?
This is not analogous because I can accurately state a plausible lurking variable as to why Florida shifted more red (DeSantis gets a lot of right wing positive press, COVID happens; NY is tough on COVID, right wing NYers and New England residents flee to Florida in 2020; this is why Florida swung more red and New York and New England swung blue in the 2020 election relative to the rest of the country).
I can state my required ommitted variable; can you state your required omitted variable?
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@Shila
Are you saying the Rednecks there are eating pets?
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@Shila
So then collect the data about pet eating rates year by year. That would be good data to collect.
But prove your case if this is reality.
But prove your case if this is reality.
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@Shila
Wahat demographics? Does Springfield like have a federal prison or something?
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