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@WyIted
LOL, you are really desperate to distract us from the catastrophe that is Trump.
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@WyIted
You dare to try to expose us?
Your tin foil hat cannot save you; we will turn our mind control rays on you at midnight tonight.
Tomorrow you will wake up thinking you are a turnip.
Bwaahahahahaha
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@Savant
The few times it's been explained to me, they talk about a trans "agenda" and the fact that it is growing, like they think it's contagious or something.
Are the outraged people out there afraid they could catch it, maybe wake up confused tomorrow?
I guess my real question is "What are they afraid of"?
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@Savant
why it is such a big issue for so many people, can anybody explain?Well, it's an issue for people with gender dysphoria, which isn't all transgender people but a significant number of them. No one with gender dysphoria seems to enjoy having it. Even among those who transition, dysphoria doesn't totally go away. Which indicates to me that we probably don't understand as much about it as we should.If asking "How do trans people feel about terms that distinguish sex?" is somehow triggering to people, I don't know how any progress is going to get made understanding this issue. Don't they communicate their preferences, like, all the time?
No, that's not what I was getting at, I'm questioning why so many people get upset about trans people, not the trans people themselves, that has to be a tough way to live, especially because of all the prejudice against them.
What I don't get is why people are so prejudiced against trans people, why all the hatred, what have they ever done to deserve it, in what way has a trans person affected the hater's life negatively? If they haven't, then what's all the outrage about?
There are so many real problems to be upset about, why do people choose this one?
I really don't understand it.
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They are around 1% of the population, I've met a few, never knew one well enough to say I had a relationship, more like there's been a few acquaintances. Every encounter was uneventful.
My question is why their existence upsets so many people, with a significant part of the population, it's almost an obsession. What is it about trans people that makes them a major issue for others? What effect on your life have they had to merit so much attention, outrage, etc.
Truth is, when I meet a trans person, at most I think "so what", whatever floats your boat", and don't really give it a second thougth, but when I see people obsessing about it, outraged and angry about it, I think "What's wrong with them"? Trans person, "meh", screaming about transpeople, "danger danger Will Robinson". That outrage strikes me a much weirder than the actual existence of trans people.
How is your life different because of trans people, how would it be better if there were no transpeople.
If every transperson in the world disappeared, or they all woke up cis tomorrow, would you even know it?
I sincerely don't understand why it is such a big issue for so many people, can anybody explain?
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U.S. stocks saw the biggest 2-day decline in history as market loses $6.6 trillion in value on Thursday and Friday, that brings the total loss since Inauguration Day to $11 trillion.
Was anyone spared, well, let's see...one of the only countries not on Trump's tariff list...wait for it....RUSSIA, of course.
"We’ll take the advice of Lao Tzu and sit by the river, waiting for the body of the enemy to float by. The decaying corpse of the E.U. economy." - Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev
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@Shila
This is not to challenge the prevalent contention that the Bible was divinely inspired, nor is it to deny the validity of popular understandings of the texts. But it is naive to think we have any knowledge about Jesus that does not come from what was said about him.The red letter Bible highlights the actual words spoken by Jesus in red to distinguish it from what others said about Jesus.What does the red letter mean in the Bible?In the first red-letter Bible, the words "universally accepted as the utterances of our Lord and Saviour" were printed in red. So were Old Testament passages that Jesus quoted or that were directly related to incidents to which he referred (with the relevant cross reference also printed in red).Oh, well, if it's printed in red then that proves it is a verbatim quote, Jesus probably spoke in English too.The red letter Bible highlights the actual words spoken by Jesus in red to distinguish it from what others said about Jesus.
Backed up by video?
Without video you can't be sure you know.
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@WyIted
The penguins are half black, but in all seriousness there is a breakaway civilization hidden in heard island and we do some secret trades with them for new tech
Ah yes, Unicorns for computers, top secret trades.
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@WyIted
Venezuela has already discussed dropping their tarrifs so we can drop ours. It appears the strategy is working.
Have the penguins on the Heard Island and the McDonald Islands group capitulated yet?
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LOL, I just love to see Trump's beloved "poorly educated" talk about economics, obviously studied Economics at Trump University.
MAGA clowns are just hilarious when they try to act intelligent.
I think my favorite is stock market crash is good because now poor people can afford stocks, bwaahahahahahaha.
Attending Trump University must have been a real hoot.
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Major U.S. stock indexes saw their worst one-day drawdowns since the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic.
The S&P 500 fell 4.8%, while the Nasdaq fell 6% — both their worst since 2020. The Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 4%, or more than 1,600 — its worst sell-off since 2022.
American buying power has dropped, the value of the United States dollar saw one of its biggest drops ever today, down 2.2%.
Canadian PM announces 25% auto tariffs on U.S., China promised to retaliate, most of our trade partners are now in a trade war with the US/
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"Trump’s tariff announcement was full-on crazy. Not only is he imposing higher tariffs than almost anyone expected, but he’s justifying them with completely false claims about other countries’ tariffs. I don’t know where his numbers are coming from, but they have nothing to do with reality. ... It’s a really bad day for the U.S. economy." - Nobel laureate Paul Krugman
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"Trump’s tariff announcement was full-on crazy. Not only is he imposing higher tariffs than almost anyone expected, but he’s justifying them with completely false claims about other countries’ tariffs. I don’t know where his numbers are coming from, but they have nothing to do with reality. ... It’s a really bad day for the U.S. economy." - Nobel laureate Paul Krugman
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@Greyparrot
I approve of taxing foreign supporters and rewarding American patriots. Buy American. Source American. Let's make "insourcing" a thing again. Let's see what a country can look like when Americans work to help other Americans first.
I see, so you see an America that makes and grows everything Americans need, cool.
Does your vision for America include unicorns?
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Today, Trump announced the largest tax increase in the history of this country.
Trade war with the entire world.
To think, he ran on a promise to bring down prices, and he said he would do it "day one".
Hardest hit will be his base, the rural areas are the most fucked, you MAGA guys are SUCKERS!
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@Shila
This is not to challenge the prevalent contention that the Bible was divinely inspired, nor is it to deny the validity of popular understandings of the texts. But it is naive to think we have any knowledge about Jesus that does not come from what was said about him.The red letter Bible highlights the actual words spoken by Jesus in red to distinguish it from what others said about Jesus.What does the red letter mean in the Bible?In the first red-letter Bible, the words "universally accepted as the utterances of our Lord and Saviour" were printed in red. So were Old Testament passages that Jesus quoted or that were directly related to incidents to which he referred (with the relevant cross reference also printed in red).
Oh, well, if it's printed in red then that proves it is a verbatim quote, Jesus probably spoke in English too.
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@zedvictor4
Jesus was a rather unradical old school mystic.
The Bible is a foundational narrative to half of the world’s people; this would be completely unaccountable if it were merely an account of “a rather unradical old school mystic”.
The legacy of such are still prevalent today in their millions, still preaching old school mystic stuff...Such is generational data transfer.
Especially if you consider His legacy, there must be a reason Jesus is the single most influential person who has ever lived, I think we need to consider the fact that the effect his life has had on the world is profoundly radical. It's pretty clear that within the social, religious, and political context of his day, Jesus was astoundingly radical; in fact, he was a revolutionary in every sense of the word.
Jesus was absolutely anti-establishment, radically liberal, and vehemently critical of the authoritarian establishment, aligning Himself instead with the poor, the oppressed, and others the establishment considered social outcasts. Jesus fiercely defied the ultra-conservative religious, political, and social power structures of the day, bringing a radically liberal theology to the masses, healing on the Sabbath, blessing outside of the rigid purity system, forgiving the sins of those condemned by the establishment, and calling for the liberation of women and minorities from their social, political, and religiously sanctioned oppression.
To the existing power structure, Jesus was a subversive that taught people that they do not need to conform to the strict and orthodox views of God, religion, and life that the corrupt establishment perpetuated. He condemned the ruling elite's greed, violence, their glorification of power, their amassing of wealth without social balance, their judging of others, their lifestyles, and their beliefs. He ferociously rebuked the religious right of His day for embracing the letter of the law instead of the Spirit, calling the Scribes and Pharisees hypocrites and vipers, and they assassinated Him for it.
I really don’t see how you can look at that and call it “unradical”.
And then their are those that put satellites into orbit and think Mars and beyond.
Do they wear cheese heads and play with toy chainsaws?
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@Shila
Are you following what Jesus actually spoke, or what his disciples said about him?You think you know the difference? You think you know what Jesus actually spoke?All we have are the Gospels, and the Gospels aren't straightforward historical records nor are they eyewitness accounts; and they were put into their current form slowly, over a period of about three hundred years. They contain details of events that had no one else present to record them and on a historical basis, they do not concur on all details, making them "historically" suspect.Consequently, the Gospels are certainly open to interpretation, they tend to conflict, and they certainly do not provide an independent historical narrative. They were "versions of His life" likely promoting the spiritual interests of different factions of a very diverse early Christianity. It is quite likely that the records we now have are tinged with denial or exaggeration by different interest groups who may have altered the records in an attempt to unify Christianity and support their claims to power.This is not to challenge the prevalent contention that the Bible was divinely inspired, nor is it to deny the validity of popular understandings of the texts. But it is naive to think we have any knowledge about Jesus that does not come from what was said about him.
This is not meant to discredit the Bible or the man the Bible is about, it is only to recognize that Christianity is based on what Jesus became after his death, it is about the Jesus of Christian experience. For two thousand years Christians have continued to experience Jesus as a living reality, as a contemporary presence and a spiritual living divine reality.
The foundational meaning of Christianity results directly from the fact that Jesus' followers have experienced his continuing presence as a living reality for two thousand years, so it is only the Jesus of this living tradition that we know, it is all we can know.
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@Shila
Someone as disturbingly radical as Christ, as powerful in actions, presence, and legacy as he was, could only be expected to incite widely varying interpretations of his life.Are you following what Jesus actually spoke, or what his disciples said about him?
You think you know the difference? You think you know what Jesus actually spoke?
All we have are the Gospels, and the Gospels aren't straightforward historical records nor are they eyewitness accounts; and they were put into their current form slowly, over a period of about three hundred years. They contain details of events that had no one else present to record them and on a historical basis, they do not concur on all details, making them "historically" suspect.
Consequently, the Gospels are certainly open to interpretation, they tend to conflict, and they certainly do not provide an independent historical narrative. They were "versions of His life" likely promoting the spiritual interests of different factions of a very diverse early Christianity. It is quite likely that the records we now have are tinged with denial or exaggeration by different interest groups who may have altered the records in an attempt to unify Christianity and support their claims to power.
This is not to challenge the prevalent contention that the Bible was divinely inspired, nor is it to deny the validity of popular understandings of the texts. But it is naive to think we have any knowledge about Jesus that does not come from what was said about him.
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Someone as disturbingly radical as Christ, as powerful in actions, presence, and legacy as he was, could only be expected to incite widely varying interpretations of his life.
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@Greyparrot
I won't shed a tear for traitors buying foreign shit.Enjoy being forced to support Americans.
But you went and got a foreign fiancé.
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@Shila
Ukranians women once we kill all their men by prolonging war with russiaWell, historically, many armies did kill men and spared women for themselves as a way to get more sex and offspring.American population dropped during the American wars. Too many American men were killed.
But the enemy's population dropped even more.
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." - General George S. Patton
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@TheGreatSunGod
more sex, tariffs fix everything.More sex? Does Trump plan to import more foreign sex workers?
You mean besides Melania?
(Beat FLRW to it :)
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Woo Hoo, tariffs will fix everything and then some, we all get rich, no more fentanyl, more jobs, crime goes down, more sex, tariffs fix everything.
Yay for tariffs.
The best part is China pays for all of it.
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The average ticket price for Taylor Swift's Eras Tour ranged from $700 to pushing $1,500, with some tickets reaching as high as $24,000.
Stop those scalpers and the working class can go see Taylor Swift.
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@Greyparrot
In the end, I think combatting the ticket scalpers will give the working class a chance to enjoy the things usually reserved for the upper-middle class. What do you guys think?
The average stadium price for a Falcon's ticket is $300, how exactly does combatting scalpers help make that more affordable?
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@WyIted
This post isn't bigoted, and that's impressive considering how much of a nigger you are being right now.
Nope, I'm not being anything, you are just being a hypocrite, you contended that "If the brain determines what to do and it's made up of atoms and chemicals and electrical impulses that tell it what to desire and tell it what to do than by extension there is no "I" that is in control."
Therefore, I'm not being anything, everything just is.
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@WyIted
This post isn't bigoted, and that's impressive considering how much of a nigger you are being right now.
I get it, you are doing MAGA Philosophy, stupid, no accountability, and no responsibility, the three pillars of MAGA Philosophy.
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@WyIted
That's like saying science says color is based on certain wavelengths of light, therefore green does not exist.What? No LOLIf the brain determines what to do and it's made up of atoms and chemicals and electrical impulses that tell it what to desire and tell it what to do than by extension there is no "I" that is in control.
I think I understand your point and it makes sense.
If all my posts were inane, offensive, and bigoted, then I suppose I’d want people to believe it’s not my fault too.
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If Trump can figure out how to run again, then I think Obama would run against him and kick his ass so hard Trump wouldn't be able to find it.
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@WyIted
The brain is made up of atoms, so therefore free will does not exist is not an argument, it's a meaningless statement that has no logic to it.
That's like saying science says color is based on certain wavelengths of light, therefore green does not exist.
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@WyIted
the brain is not made up of magic free will stuff
Whoa, you really go deep with the science, tell us more.
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@RemyBrown
Nothing special to see here, everybody wants to kill all the lawyers.
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@WyIted
You forgot the Jews, you need to disparage Jewish scientists too.
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@WyIted
The concept of freewill has been around since at least ancient Greece when Socrates and Aristotle were exploring the role of moral responsibility. Since then it has spread through or been explored in other areas of philosophy such as with Judeo Christian values or through the enlightenment.
The idea that we are rational conscious beings and the associated fact that we are morally responsible causal agents is found in every time and every place that human beings have been known to exist.
The illusion or belief in free will has been used to put moral responsibility on the shoulders of the individual.
So that’s what it’s for, go figure, I though I used it to make plans and decisions, determine appropriate actions to take, choose between right and wrong, that kind of thing.
However despite the usefulness of this belief at placing blame on the individual, we can know that it's merely a convenient lie.
Whoa, big surprise, Wylted has employed the conceptual framework of conspiracy thinking rather than using a scientific or logical framework. Yes Wylted, Free Will is nothing but a vast conspiracy, perpetrated on us by our own minds, which trick us into thinking we are experiencing Free Will. For some hidden nefarious reason, our mind wants to trick us into believing we have the freedom to make choices, to make a difference, to think we are in control, but no, we are not really in control, that is just what they want you to believe.
So far the theory hasn't been proved, its merely been used as an a priori assumption.
Just like every other conspiracy out there, and like all conspiracy theories, it is impervious to contradictory evidence, facts, and logic. Any contradictory evidence, facts or logic is summarily dismissed as part of the “conspiracy” or “cover up,” this all makes sense by simply replacing the words "conspiracy" and "cover up" with the word “Illusion.”
# the evidence against freewillOur beliefs are formed by sensations from the outside world, we are devices that do not control our input, and if we get down to the cellular level, we don't control the electrical impulses in our brain nor do we control prior conditioning and the chemical processes that control our thoughts, which control our actions. We simply do not have the freewill because we are essentially meat computers.
The denial of the self-evident truth of free will is an extraordinary claim, extraordinary claims require an extraordinary argument backed up by extraordinary evidence. To deny the experiential reality of every waking moment of every individual and challenge the validity of every moral and legal system found in every known time and place where humans have ever existed, by no more than arbitrarily proclaiming that we are only “devices” and “meat computers” is not extraordinary evidence, in fact it isn’t evidence at all.
The brute fact is that we are conscious being who have causal influence on the material world through our actions; consequently, Free Will ontologically manifests itself in the physical world in the form of conscious causal agents that engage in conduct for reasons that are not included in the purely unconscious physical causation which by definition, does not include intent, values and purpose. Conscious beings are free and responsible causal agents which act in a purposeful and goal directed way.
Consciousness has causal influence due to its content, not solely because of the physical aspects of its neural correlates. A continuous conscious state includes desires or intentions, it includes the ability to envision a future state and establish a strategy for attaining that state. That makes it more than a purely physical state, it is a conscious state with reference to a future possibility, and no such reference is part of any purely physical state. The self can exert the force of consciousness to some effect in the material world; such conscious states can have causal effect to bring about further states for the sake of values and purposes. Intents, values, and purposes are not reducible to a purely physical state unless one attributes consciousness to the constituent matter itself; consequently, they exist as properties of a conscious free will which clearly entails a distinct ontological existence apart from its constituent material components.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Free will was just invented to put blame on individual for anything he does, but it is not only an unproved theory, but there is plenty of proof against it.Individual's knowledge, intelligence, decisions and ability to make decisions are all greatly affected by his environment and genes, neither being under his control.
You didn't write this post; it was in the stars 14 billion years ago?
Is that what you are saying?
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@WyIted
The message sent to the US Military was "You can't trust the Secretary of Defense or the Commander in Chief", that's not a particularly valuable strategic message to send either.
Especially when they already know that if it this administration's incompetence had resulted in US Military lives lost, they would just consider them "suckers" and "Losers" anyway.
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@WyIted
How would a simple error make people look like buffoons?Think about this. If Obama made a simple error would he be a buffoon?Or are people in government like everyone else and capable of fucking up occasionally?I know this hurts because you brainis goingIf Republicans make a mistake-buffoonery (also they are secret evil geniuses)If Democrats make a mistake- actually it wasn't a mistakeIt's just a stupid dichotomy. Just be honest and you look more credible. It starts with honesty to yourself.The Goldberg a journalist known for partisan lies in reporting was included in a chat chain that suspiciously looks scripted. He publicly states he has this chat. The administration has a choice. Be honest and say he does so the problem stays under the radar or be dishonest and force him to publish to bring their "mistake" to light. What is Occam's razor tell you what is happening if you assume these very successful men are competent and did just get lucky.
LOL, when you guys try to defend this administration’s stupidity, it just makes you look stupid too, it’s like MAGA is trapped in a death spiral of increasing stupidity.
This was a demonstration of gross incompetence, plain and simple. Hegseth threw a little “watch party” for his buddies with battle plans and blow by blow updates, and he did it on an unsecured channel, and accidentally included a journalist. There was not a single uniformed officer in the group, and the information shared is highly confidential and should be only shared on a need-to-know basis, nobody on that group chat “needed to know” that information at that time.
Nobody on that chat had any advisory our decision-making authority, the chat by itself was a huge security breach, there is no acceptable reason for Hegseth to turn the battle plans into entertainment. And that’s exactly what it was, entertainment, the group had no real-time role to play in this situation, the only role for them was “audience” invited to enjoy the show.
It wasn’t a simple mistake, it was a massive, over the top, incompetent mistake, and you can belittle it all you want with more buffoonery, but the outcome is the rest of the world has lost a lot of respect for the US Military and know we can't be trusted with shared military secrets, and that’s not a particularly valuable strategic message we should be broadcasting to our allies or our enemies.
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@WyIted
Not much to say with WyIted at this point. If it was an honest mistake, they’re sure taking their time copping to it and there should still be some degree of accountability. If it’s purposeful, then that should be verifiable to some degree and we can move on.I don't disagree although I would say if the mistake is intentional we will never know and should never know. We don't want national intelligence of how we choose what to leak to be exposed.
You want to boil down gross incompetence to being "a leak", and it could be intentional because there might be secret strategic value to making our Secretary of Defense and senior presidential staff look like incompetent buffoons? All you are showing is that the buffoonery is contagious, and now it's spreading through MAGA.
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@FLRW
Oh, sorry, I thought the title was referring to Trump.
Trump isn't even in the top half of dumbest people.
Even dumber than Trump is all the morons who think he is smart, the 51% that elected him are even dumber than him.
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@whiteflame
Either way the public face of it looks the same: "whoopsies, we'll do better next time"Honestly, would be nice if we at least got that as the consistent message coming from this administration.
That's the biggest problem here, if they never admit to their "whoopsies", then you never get to "we'll do better next time", it's that kind of arrogance that guarantees ongoing incompetence.
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Goldberg seems to be exaggerating about what was actually in the texts regarding classified info. As someone completely opposed to Trump, there is no sane reason why he wouldn't hand over incriminating evidence to the ranking congressional Democrats in order to run with the "worse than Hillary" narrative for the next 3 years, practically making him a folk hero. If Goldberg is clearly lying about the contents, what else could he be lying about? Could he be lying or omitting critical information about how he got the info in the first place?I am thinking highly probable.
Is it possible that your news channel, whackjobconspiracytheories.com, did not cover the fact that Goldberg published the text chain yesterday?
Since the administration was swearing it was not classified and attacking Goldberg (SOP) as a liar and saying he was perpetrating a scam, he took that as permission to publish it, it is absolutely classified information, this was an astounding display of gross incompetence and demonstrated a reckless disregard for military personnel and security.
Just shows, if you select department heads based on loyalty rather than competence, you end up with a Cabinet Clown Show that makes the Three Stooges look serious.
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@WyIted
Nonsense, I spent decades selling telecommunications equipment to the government, especially the military, and they are freakish about security and encryption, they won't even consider it if it isn't the absolute best. And by the way, it doesn't have to be proprietary to be the best there is, you just have to be willing to pay the price, and for secure channels, they do.So you're talking about hardware?
Communications systems are necessarily integrated systems, so yeah, there's hardware, and inside of the hardware is software, it's like magic.
Why would you state "nonsense" and then follow it up with absolutely nothing that contradicts anything I said?
Maybe because you were talking nonsense.
By necessity, not everything is going to be discussed in the situation room.
That was just an example of how obsessed they are about security in regard to military command and control, command and control is what was shared by this clown car full of National Security department heads.
Do you know how often the government is tricked into buying fake Cisco routers which is a major security concern? I think you are overstating the governments paranoia.
Sounds like you never tried to sell secure communications systems to the government or the military, you can't imagine what it's like trying to sell to be who keep saying "Lives are at stake" and "National Security" and that kind of shit, they really do think they are special.
But they spend a shit ton of money, and that makes them special.
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@WyIted
There is a myth that the government has stronger encrypted apps than what they actually do. They don't have anything stronger than signal. Open source is always going to be stronger than anything proprietary because literally millions of people are looking for exploits in open source software
Nonsense, I spent decades selling telecommunications equipment to the government, especially the military, and they are freakish about security and encryption, they won't even consider it if it isn't the absolute best. And by the way, it doesn't have to be proprietary to be the best there is, you just have to be willing to pay the price, and for secure channels, they do.
When it comes to military operations, this was a hopelessly inept move, anyone who walks into the Situation Room must take off watches, jewelry, phones, etc, to make sure there is nothing recorded and no surveillance possible, the room itself is wrapped in a dozen security features we know about, and a dozen more that nobody knows about, it is about as secure as anyplace on the planet. The only place hackers get into secure military channels is on television. The military takes their secure communications channels very very seriously, I think they go overboard myself, but hey, they were willing to pay for the best shit and I was willing to sell it. I mean, the situation room is in the fucking white house, do they really need it to be so tightly wrapped, they think so. A secure transmission channels are just as tightly wrapped, when there is a security breach, it's never because of the equipment, it's always the people.
Point being, Larry, Curley, and Moe at the Pentagon really fucked up this time, we are talking total incompetence.
And this nonsense pablum being spewed is being spewed by the same people who chanted "Lock her up" because of relatively harmless state department shit being sent from an unsecure email account, what fucking hypocrites. You can try to put lipstick on this pig, but it isn't going to help, .
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@Mharman
The Falcons’ collapse in that Super Bowl is considered the greatest choke of all time. In addendum, many blown leads and chokes were suffered by the Falcons in future regular seasons.
I live in Atlanta, so I probably should have known that.
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@WyIted
It was just a simple mistake, Hegseth meant to add Putin to the chat, but he was drunk and so, oops.
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@Greyparrot
Tom Brady and the New England Patriots made their legendary 28-3 comeback against Matt Ryan’s Atlanta Falcons.
OK, that makes sense.
Also, I think that's your first post that wasn't total nonsense, cool.
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@Mharman
I wonder if there are other unfortunate numbers for any of those other HoF balls
What am I missing, why is #283 an unfortunate number?
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