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@ILikePie5
One of you and Skipper has to be scum cause 3 role failing roles make zero sense, especially with 2 powerful investigative roles.
What are the three roles that failed? Did this happen in one night?
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@ILikePie5
You believe I didn't roleblock Cerulean but instead roleblocked Lunatic because he was told his ability failed. Before dp1 ended, I gave my thoughts on Mhar and Luna, and then later we were told Mharman was lynched and actually a townie. I could see someone thinking that because Mhar was innocent, I may have then suspected Luna so I roleblocked him.
But Luna wasn't my first or even my second option for scum and probably not my third either. There were others I would've targeted before him. I was suspicious of Ceru during dp1
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@ILikePie5
How am I the only reason Lunatic's ability failed?
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During dp1, I was not told anything,
Sorry, in Post #5 I meant to say night phase 1, not day phase. My roleblock on Cerulean was not confirmed
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@WyIted
Why barney?
He hasn't given much for his innocence, just gave reasons why he can't be on very much which do sound legitimate, but it provides him with an easier way to not have to defend himself from suspicion.
Why Barney over Pie? I could've picked either one, but I felt like Barney could've been logging on and killing someone and then just logging off. We don't suspect him of being quiet
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During dp1, I was not told anything, but I am now assuming that my ability didn't go into effect because due to Cerulean's character, he couldn't have been targeted by anything since it was odd numbered night.
During np2, I roleblocked JoeBob/Barney, and I was told it was confirmed. Lunatic died though, so I'm pretty sure that Pie is the other Mafia since I don't think WyIted or Casey is one
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
I used roleblocking on Cerulean because he was one of the more suspicious characters from dp1, and if he was a mafia trying to kill someone then I could have potentially saved a townie
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VTL Cerulean
Since we lost Mharman, I think lynching needs to happen more quickly so we can get rid of a mafia. I am probably not going to be back on for ten hours maybe, so I would rather put in a vote now instead of waiting till later. Cerulean is still in the list of scum for me
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
I am Huff N. Puff, the leader of a gang of Ruff Puffs keeping Flower Fields cloudy and permanently overcast by my cloud making machine. I have the Jailkeeper role. I can target a player and protect them from any lethal actions and also roleblock them from committing any actions.
I don't know how Lunatic's ability failed during the NP, but it wasn't because of me
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@WyIted
It's a lot of pressure
A lot of pressure to do what? Lol. Do you want the story to sound really good? Or do you have COC enemies that are hunting you or something?
Does it bring up emotional memories?
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@WyIted
I discontinued this series, but just for you I will either post the co tinuatuon tomorrow or give you The short version to satisfy your curiousity
Anticipating the sequel
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@Lunatic
@Mharman
@WyIted
@Casey_Risk
@Cerulean
I have some thoughts to share before I go to bed. I've read everything, only once though.
Mharman and Lunatic: Mharman is trying very hard and is saying a lot of things to defend himself and weaken other's arguments, and this behaviour does not inherently make him look suspicious to me. The way Lunatic responds seems like Luna is staying firm where he believes about everything, but Mharman is rushing at him from different angles and points. Mharman's strategy seems to do well for having more control over the proceedings of the game, but I think he is perhaps trying too hard.
Mharman seems more suspicious to me than Lunatic. Lunatic could be scum from the pov of a random number generator, but I have no scumtells on him.
By reading so much in one sitting (I think from Page 11 to Page 14) I had a chance to look at Mharman's behavioural changes over the course of a few hours, and from what I saw, it seemed he had a certain revelation (about what I'm not certain) about something that changed his approach. This sense on him made me more concerned as he then started to place more attention onto me as an attempt to divert attention from him, which makes sense because of how close he is to being lynched.
I think he is being cool about it though with everything considered, and the main reason I say that is because he unvoted me. This is also what makes me less suspicious of him all of a sudden because I don't know what he gains from that if he is Mafia. Maybe this makes him look more innocent because he is choosing to be softer and more forgiving towards me?
WyIted: With what WyIted said about me being pushed into my shell, I did choose to remain on the quieter side to focus on other peoples' strategies and styles of gameplay so I could pick up on how to maneuver the game. Questions about my convo with WyIted about Discord seem to be brought up a lot when discussing my town cred. When WyIted asked me if I was put into a Discord chat, I immediately thought this was a trap because I knew, by reading past games and explanations of the rules, that Mafia are sometimes (or all the time?) placed in a Discord chat to talk to each other. Because of this, I decided to be more ambiguous in my response which when I look back, just looks weird with how I said things. I didn't want to bluntly say "no" because I thought that would make me look hasty and like I was trying to hide that I was in the mafia chat. I chose to be more aloof in the beginning.
But then, contrastingly, I became direct and outspoken when I first gave my say about how I am a full-fledged townie. That was a strategy I wanted to try out, and it was coupled with sharing the concern about mafia tricking town into mislynching me. But now that I have had a little more experience with how this game goes, I am sure that sort of thing happens all of the time and was unnecessary for me to bring up.
Cerulean: Cerulean is also another suspicious fellow to me. I think it was Mharman, maybe Pie, that called him out on something. Was it being inactive? I am writing this part right before going to sleep so I don't remember as clearly. Cerulean caught on to this mistake of his, and then tried to contribute more in general. I don't think he's done any better so far to clear himself.
And if Mharman was the one to call out Cerulean, I know even less what to think of Mharman now. However, as I have considered the tactic of a mafia making another mafia look suspicious to save his own skin, this could be a possibility. Making Cerulean look scummy where we are in the game probably won't get Cerulean killed, but would rather give more time to Mharman to do whatever his secret plan is.
I do not know if some townies are expecting me to pull the trigger on Mharman, what with him having a 4/5 vote right now, but I do not feel ready to do that. Also, how exactly do the game mechanics work if someone gets lynched? Would he officially die after the first NP?
I am not sure how active I will be close to when DP ends, but if someone could explain what exactly happens during the shift in phases, just some general details, that would be appreciated. Like for example, can mafia kill people the minute NP starts? Do any townsfolk encourage me to use my ability?
I will read again sometime tomorrow
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@WyIted
I haven't clicked on the link yet, but I already know it's going to be a clip from the Princess Bride. That's a great movie
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@Lunatic
Just so I understand the slang,
PR is "protective role," yes?
I don't know what CC means. "Calling Cap" on something? Call it out as not true? I think's that what it could be in the context of how you used the term.
I'm pretty sure JOAT means "Jack Of All Trades."
I do not know what WIFOM means. Something something Fear Of Mafia? Idk
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@Lunatic
I didn't know what SOP meant in my first game, either. Heck, even in the last game, I had to explain the term to Mharman. You saw that, right?The one thing I can agree with you on is Skipper mentioning PMs. I feel like it should be pretty common sense that you can't just PM other players, and that does make me want to suspect Skipper. Behaviorally, I've gone back and forth on him, but right now I'm back to a town read.Are you american? I just feel like SOP is a very common one for americans, or at least I have seen that term used in almost every job I have ever worked, so for me that one seems a bit obvious. If people are saying they aren't familiar with it, I can't really argue that, just that it seems weird to me that it's one people aren't used to is all.
I have also heard SOP used as "Statement of Purpose" which means the Mission Statement. I didn't think that's what it meant for this game, so I wanted to make sure
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@Mharman
I know Skipper already looks better than every noob I’ve ever seen and is probably capable of telling guys all we want to hear...
Is that a compliment? Haha. I'm doing better for my first time than I thought somehow. By "doing better" I mean playing the game in general
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@Casey_Risk
Thanks for the explanations. It is pretty late here too, and I bet that has been impacting my ability to think. Perhaps I'll have a better understanding tomorrow
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@Casey_Risk
I'd still like to hear your thoughts on Cerulean, if you have any. Do you understand what Mharman is saying about him?
I think for the most part, I can't comprehend it. I lack understanding of certain terminology like "parroting" and "OMGUSing." I'm not very smart; I have to work hard to think smart. I feel like what Mharman says about Cerulean I can agree with, but I don't really know how to articulate that. My opinion is just intuition or emotionally-based
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@Casey_Risk
Also, Skipper, I since it looks like you're back online, I want to hear your thoughts on post #88 as well. What do you think?
I mean, in hindsight, it's sensible for you to jump on what I said initially in post #75. The way I presented myself there wasn't very thoughtful, and the way I defended myself afterwards was not good.
Mharman saying I was being vague and calling others out for being vague makes sense. All I've done is make myself look more suspicious or ultra noobish
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@Mharman
Thoughts on what I said? About you and Cerulean.
I don't really have any, I'm just making noob mistakes. I have points that are fruitless. I'm not doing a good job, but I am enjoying the game.
I probably won't say anything else tonight
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@Casey_Risk
I think me being so immediately open about my role is no longer a helpful tacticYou weren't really open about it at all. Literally the only thing I know about your role is that you are a boss, like everyone else apparently, and have a role which is helpful to the town. Cool.
Oops, I hadn't meant to say "role." I meant side/team.
I agree it is reasonable to suspect me.Great, glad we had this conversation. But then, what was the point of bringing up that players that disagree may be mafia? Earlier, you said:I only say this because those who have voiced otherwise may be mafia since they can tell I am not one of them, but they want us all to think I am mafia so we're tricked.But now you're saying that it's actually reasonable to suspect you. So, what message exactly are you trying to convey? What point are you trying to make?
I was hasty in thinking that what I said would be convincing in some way. I realize now I am a reasonable suspect
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@Casey_Risk
I agree it is reasonable to suspect me. I think me being so immediately open about my role is no longer a helpful tactic
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@Casey_Risk
You haven't confirmed anything, though. All you've done is just reiterate that Wylted townreads you. Okay. If you're really a townie though, your primary concern shouldn't be being potentially scumread by other players, especially at this early point in the game. It should be trying to scumhunt and read other players. Being overly concerned about being lynched is a scumtell.
I've also pointed out that there may be mafia members who are trying to keep ambiguity around me being a townie or not by implying they're not sure. It's less about me being lynched and more about my team wasting time
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@Casey_Risk
Buddy, you don't need to defend yourself so aggressively. No one's pointing their finger of suspicion at you yet. Except for me just now, because I find this sudden aggressiveness to be odd.
I don't think it was aggressive how I said it. I'm trying to confirm things so people don't get distracted by what I say, so it instead is helpful to the town side
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I am a townie, even WyIted agrees. I only say this because those who have voiced otherwise may be mafia since they can tell I am not one of them, but they want us all to think I am mafia so we're tricked. They're not going to flat out say it, but they'll imply it
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@whiteflame
Here's the breakdown of the claims and softclaims so far. That makes 5 people who have claimed to be from the first game (Tubba Blubba and General Guy are both from that game).1. Mhar2. Lunatic3. Pie4. Casey - Tubba Blubba - Hated5. Wylted - General Guy - ???6. WF - Paper Mario (2000)7. Barney8. Skipper - Paper Mario (2000)9. Cerulean - Paper Mario (2000)I don't think it makes sense to hold this in reserve, so I'll note what may or may not be obvious: both Tubba Blubba and General Guy are bosses in this game. I can confirm that my character is also a boss. I'm actually buying the Hated claim more at this point, since it seems to place the fact that Tubba Blubba is a pushover as the reason for him to be hated among villains.
My character is a boss as well
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Is there an app for DART?
And is the Corrupt-A-Wish forum game gone? I can't search for it and find it
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@WyIted
Later down the road we have the greatest hostile takeover of all time involving my feeder clans that I set up after this debacle and an organized assault on Australians.
Is there a story for this series of events?
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@WyIted
I am buying the naivete of skipper and putting him as solid town
The mafia's going to try to kill me now, aren't they?
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@WyIted
That was a stupid question on my part to ask if townies had their own chat, lol
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Earth doesn't have my Discord info, so I'm not in one as of yet
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@WyIted
Is there a discord chat for townies only and a separate one for mafia only?
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What should be happening during the DP? We try to balance between giving out info and trying to figure out who is who? It's okay to PM other players, right?
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@Casey_Risk
My character is from Paper Mario
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@ILikePie5
VTL Skipper
Have you played this game before? This is my first time playing with you. I don't think I know anything about you.Additional questionHave you read the forum mafia guide?
Yes, I read the forum mafia guide and the google docs mafia roles list to understand what I need to. After reading about what I can do in the game, I think I have an important role to play.
I have questions about the game, but I don't what to ask them in a way that reveals who I am.
I'll start off with some basic ones though.
What does VTL, SOP, and MYLO/LYLO mean?
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@Casey_Risk
VTL Skipper
Have you played this game before? This is my first time playing with you. I don't think I know anything about you.
No, this is my first time playing online Mafia. I'm looking forward to it
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@Earth
/in
I'll be a replacement if I'm too late
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@Best.Korea
With the example of basic math, we use it all of the time. We use it a lot when handling money. We add and subtract items throughout the day. I would also say history is important.
Though I would agree that students are not remembering because they don't see the importance of most of the knowledge they are being taught, I would also say it is partly because of the way the information is being distributed. Classrooms are not engaging places especially if one looks at the older grades, and, because there are a lot of things we are required to learn in school that we don't care about, this creates a culture of being uninterested in the pursuit of education itself which further degrades the ability of retention
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@Best.Korea
I think there are some classes that still hold relevance and importance like basic mathematics, basic science, and history. But the question is how much content from these subjects should be taught before they become unnecessary for the large part?
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@Owen_T
I am sorry you experienced such an unnecessarily angry response from Christians, and I do not mean that in the sense that I apologize on behalf of those people because that doesn't really mean anything to anyone, but I have empathy for your circumstance. Those Christians did not accurately express the love from which God commands us to operate. Revealing disbelief in the Christian doctrine is seen as rejection of what is sacred which can be a big deal to fervent religious people of the Church (by fervent religious people I mean those who are very invested in their practice of the religion, or at least those who would say they are).
Your conviction of belief stirred them to be hasty and not very thoughtful in their judgements of how to act. It's sad to see they only saw you as an idea to crush and not as a human to understand. They failed as good representations of what a Christian should be by engaging in harsh ostracization of your willingness to show what you believe and by connection, you as well. They were wrong to condemn you by saying, "Well now you're going to go to hell" because they are not meant to condemn anyone, and that is not up to them.
I hope my words find you well. As a Christian myself, should I be put in a similar situation but on the opposite end, I will do well to remember not to treat the person the way you were treated and to not make them feel the way you were made to feel
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@Best.Korea
I wish I was taught how to think logically in school. At least in college, I took a philosophy class that was all about Logic and Critical Thinking--the actual name of the class--and it was one of the most beneficial classes to me I believe. It taught me formulas for how to think of premises, conditions, contentions, and other factors of debate and logical reasoning. I think more rationally from what I learned, and I am smarter from it.
Honestly, I don't believe I'm a very smart person. I do think I have an unbridled amount of creativity and imagination that allows me to come up with unique ways in my mind to understand how to learn how to be smart. When I was younger, I had trouble with understanding reality because I would lean back on my reasoning that came from the imagination part of my mind, and I wouldn't realize it. My presuppositions of people would be very off, and I would be totally surprised by it. I also think dark thoughts sometimes, but I choose not to entertain them because I do not want to be desensitized and my actions irl to follow in form.
I went through all of high school, and no one taught me how to present my ideas in a respectful and articulate, concise manner. This frustrated me so much because I had big ideas, but I didn't know how to express them through my words so they would remain abstract in my mind. I felt like a blank sheet of paper to those around me or maybe a paper full of random doodles struggling to have any structure and coherency, and as such no one could really recognize what I believed because I couldn't show it.
Writing and speaking have helped me better articulate myself because it is such great practice. I might make a separate forum post about the ways I have trained myself because they are very interesting to me, and I haven't heard about the concepts anywhere very much. It's more about the connections I find between two seemingly unrelated topics, but I then build a bridge of association that links them together in which the result serves as a mental tool or practice to better help me learn how to think and express myself through language
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@Best.Korea
Thanks for recommending I get a computer with 32 gb ram. When I looked at Amazon, the MacBooks from 2020 and 2019 were about half the price of the one I was looking at which is not that much newer--ridiculous. And I was looking at older ones that had twice as much ram in them. Your point of future-proofing my computer's gaming abilities is a pretty valid point, and I believe you when you say we are just years away from 32 gb ram being the optimal standard for computer gaming
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@WyIted
How does the cpu stack up to a M1 Pro chip? Or if you don't mind telling me, what type of computer do you have?
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I am going to upgrade to a new computer within a few months depending on when it feels right. My current computer has issues and is lacking in the performance that I desire from a computer. Please do not try to persuade me to a specific brand because I am only sticking with Apple. It's what I am comfortable with and used to, and Apple computers are good enough.
If you have any thoughts about what type of Macbook I should get, do share. I prefer the Pro versions over the Air models because of the better internal hardware and additional ports. I want to buy one that I plan on keeping for many years, and its performance should be acceptable for many years.
I basically have to balance the ratio of performance : money.
One that I have landed on is the 2021 MacBook Pro, M1 Pro Chip, 16 GB Ram, 512 GB. The price is around $1,000, most likely a bit more. I think its power would be more than enough for what I want and need, and the price doesn't seem too bad. What do you guys think?
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@Best.Korea
Our Father, who are in HellMay they curse your nameYour Kingdom upon Earth has comeYour Will be doneIn Hell as it is on EarthGive us your power and mightAnd lead us into temptationDeliver us onto evilFor yours is the Kingdom of EarthPower and GloryForever and everSo it is done!
A perfect perversion and antithesis of the Lord's Prayer
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@Best.Korea
You said things about me that I resonated with but don't think about very much. You are a very intelligent, witty person, whoever you are. Sincerely, your sarcasm in other posts is pretty funny. I think someone said awhile back that you add personality to the website. I agree
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@Best.Korea
By the way, who is president now of the site?
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@Best.Korea
Stereotype me.
P.S. Is this still a legit debate website? Besides today, I logged on once in about 1.5 years
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