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@ADreamOfLiberty
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it's weird clicking on something that was made a minute ago
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@CarboniferousIndividual
Speak here if you want to introduce yourself to everyone
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@CarboniferousIndividual
As someone who is extremely new to debate, PLEASEEEE!!!!!!When I get interested in something I practice it until I can beat people, then once I lose I practice more, this is how improvement works (at least for my autistic ahh), this approach may work in chess, but not in debate as you require other participants.I want to use this site to practice debate, however everyone on it is HIGHLY experienced and I don't want to go into a debate to get steamrolled by a national champ who has done this for 9 years. I can't practice IRL as my debate club is off right now, and I can't practice on here since I don't have enough experience.(I have quite literally done 0 debates so far as the club is still being set up)This is just me complaining as I don't know how to get into this, but I would kill for this to be more accessible for new users-maybe a tutorial, somewhere where you can analyse other's debates to learn, or rated matches so that I can face someone of a similar skill level.i.imgflip.com/strh6.jpg Please sir, may I have some ways to practice while inexperienced
Hello, and welcome to DebateArt.
I am not that experienced in debating either, but I am intelligent. You seem the same, and I would be open to debating whatever with you.
It's not that big of a deal to do a debate "wrong." You can recover if creative. Even if you started off the wrong way, if you can make your side (Pro) of the debate more believable than Con's side or make Con's side less believable than your side, that's still a win.
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@Umbrellacorp
Art is dying day by day and we can only watch.
The philosophy of art is more commonly becoming misconstrued.
"Mastery" by Robert Greene which I started reading recently is very helpful in understanding the mastery of art--music in my case--better.
People like to praise the artist that was emotionally-driven the whole time and crash landed at the end and amounted to very little.
Robert Greene emphasizes focusing on valuing, and, if you are the performer, creating art that is skillful and well-developed
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@Mharman
You're right.
There just seems to be so many societal problems that spawned that song from Carpenter. But it's annoying to talk about, so I won't expound
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@Mharman
Especially pop. Pop sucks
I listened to Manchild by Sabrina Carpenter today. Dear God, I'll stick to Panic! At The Disco
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@AdaptableRatman
Not true. As in I agree they matter but faith is there without works.Satan and the demons have firm faith in God being real and all powerful. So, works mattering is different to that.Luther strongly supported sola fide btw.
The Faith I'm talking about which I'll reference with a capital "F" is not just believing in God's existence. It's the Faith of the Christian who believes God is his or her Savior. Satan and the demons do not believe that.
The Faith is "The Way" as it was first called.
Sola fide means "by faith alone." We don't believe we are saved by our works. Salvation is not obtained through works.
But how does one have faith if there are no actions that correspond with that faith?
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@WyIted
So it's just a semantics debate because we were using different defs of the word insult 👍
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@WyIted
For the definition of insult I was using it wouldn't work but for some irrelevant and other definition of insult than yes but it's usually going to be followed by an "ing" or "Ed" in those contexts.
Thank you for the grammar lesson. I am aware of present progressive and preterite tenses
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@WyIted
Name-calling is one way to insult someoneIn this context it is the only way. I think you are claiming because the word has multiple definitions that all the definitions are intended for it despite context.I am a native English speaker BTW and I am telling you that context is important for knowing which definition of a term is used and when you look in dictionaries it is not too uncommon to see multiple definitions for each word, may times even meaning wildly different things.Like even can mean 2 4 6 etc.But it can also mean "same amount"
And what about in the context of treatment towards a slave that we have previously discussed?
Our convo wasn't only about behavior on the site
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@WyIted
So I thought you were saying that if we can insults than it involves banning things that are insulting. What are you saying?
No, my conversation was not tied to any political decision involving the CoC.
What are you saying, dude?
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@WyIted
I am insulted by you questioning me.You see how someone can feel insulted despite the definition of insult in this context meaning name calling?Further more an insult if we really want to nail it down santically is a derogatory term directed at somebody, where the term lacks any premise accompanying the statement.
Name-calling is one way to insult someone
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@WyIted
Insults can be subject to a person feelings.Insults do not only originate from verbal abuseYou are confusing two different terms that are spelled the same way with similar meanings. I am not sure why you are being obtuse but do you propose banning all things that could make a person feel "insulted" ?
Stop hurling politics at me.
That's not why I'm talking to you
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@WyIted
So you don't think someone can be insulted by receiving a slap on the face?Sure he can feel insulted but the slap is not in and of itself an insult. He would have to call him a name when he slapped for it to be considered an insult.You can feel insulted if somebody isn't responding to you or if they blocked you, but we aren't going to seek to ban all things that are insulting as that would be retarded. The only aim is to ban insults.Ban insults not what is insulting.
Why do you keep on bringing up the bans? That's a political aspect I'm not interested in.
We're talking about the nature of insults.
I'm talking to you because you seem to not understand what an insult is
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@WyIted
Insults can be subject to a person feelings.
Insults do not only originate from verbal abuse
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@LucyStarfire
@AdaptableLooks like my Meow God has defeated your God <3
Oh my... you... you did... this is real.
Meowbahh is real.
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@WyIted
Insult means a word directed towards a person meant to offend. So know attacking somebody would not be an insult it would be a physical attack and those are banned here but don't fall under the definition
So you don't think someone can be insulted by receiving a slap on the face?
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@WyIted
Wouldn't you agree that the rich looked down on the poor somewhere in the world in the 15th century?Okay probably. Looking down on somebody isn't an insult. You may want to look at the definition
It's probable that someone would feel insulted because they are being treated in a demeaning manner because of their social status, right?
I don't think you understand the mindset of the slave, which did exist in the 15th century. I don't think u know how slaves feel if you say no one was insulted centuries agoYou don't either. You were never a slave in the 15th century. I do know many slaves voluntarily died protecting their masters or commited suicide out of grief when a long time master died
My point was you seem like you can't comprehend the concept because you're acting there was no drawback to being a slave.
I do know many slaves voluntarily died protecting their masters or commited suicide out of grief when a long time master died
And what about the other slaves that hated life because they experienced torture and grief and ultimate pain? Some slaves were treated horribly
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@AdaptableRatman
Do good works matter?
Yes, they do. Without works, faith is dead.
A quote from LOTR: Rings of Power S2: "Faith is not faith if it is not lived." - Elendil
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@AdaptableRatman
What makes them different
We don't worship saints or believe in Immaculate Conception
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@AdaptableRatman
I try not to think of my denomination as the best one because that seems to create too much unnecessary discrimination towards other denominations and a sense of elitism in my denomination.
My denom is LCMS Lutheran and I believe it holds a correct view Scripture. That’s my simple answer
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@AdaptableRatman
I do wonder if the reason debate sites/servers are filled with degeneracy is because God wants debating to end.
It would please God if we were unified under one Faith in Him
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@AdaptableRatman
I am interested in learning more about your campaign, but I think you've already written me off so I wonder if I should even ask
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@LucyStarfire
This is a disguised callout thread baiting others to do the calloutsWow, way to welcome returning users.
I think this was the very first thing said to me upon coming back
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@WyIted
Micro principles would be things like social views political views concerning social issues for example the culture war, also small policy decisions would count as well the macro positions would be on freedom or justice with freedom being slightly more important than justice. Survival and health would be micro principles as would economics
I think any one of a person's actions can be viewed through morality's lenses, and they all contribute to that person's goodness or badness. Additionally, I don't think any action is permissible from being conceived from good or evil. Every action has an intention of good or bad
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@WyIted
I don't see how the Carlin video is support for your contention that only Liberals get offended.
If an Indonesian slaps another Indonesian is the second Indonesian going to be insulted or not? If u disagree, can u see how more abstractly it is possible for physical harm to be insulting to someone?
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@WyIted
An insult is objectively disrespectful. Racial slurs are disrespectful. Racial slurs are insultsDid you watch the George Carlin bit I linked to yet? Because this doesn't sound like a good revuttal
Do u understand how an insult is disrespectful?
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@WyIted
That's pretty much correct . Nobody was offended on behalf of their group in the 15th century
I don't think you can back that up.
Wouldn't you agree that the rich looked down on the poor somewhere in the world in the 15th century?
I don't think you understand the mindset of the slave, which did exist in the 15th century. I don't think u know how slaves feel if you say no one was insulted centuries ago
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@WyIted
Who cares? Are you white people? I am not I do happen to be a white person though.Aren't you a Christian anyway. Are you identifying with your white brothers or do you feel an identity with your Christian brothers?
I don't have to be personally taken aback by a statement for it to be an insult.
You're making this personal when it's not .
An insult is objectively disrespectful. Racial slurs are disrespectful. Racial slurs are insults
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@WyIted
Only liberals get offended? Oh, so who was getting offended in the 15th century was Liberal political party didn't exist?
Insults didn't exist until the 19th century I guess
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@WyIted
I think more than liberals get offended by being called insultsAn insult would be if somebody walked up and called me a stupid cracker. Now if somebody said "white people are stupid crackers" that would not be an insult.
It's an insult to white people
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@WyIted
Just liberals occasionally finding a way to get offended.
I think more than liberals get offended by being called insults
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@WyIted
We see occasionally how a term for a state-of-being becomes derogatory.Look at “dumb” “lame” “retard”Yeah it's called the euphemism wheel. Just liberals occasionally finding a way to get offended. George Carlin had a great but about this. https://youtu.be/mUvdXxhLPa8?si=ky4Pg8kszBMAYzTv
so we agree that the n-word is derogatory denoting racism
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@WyIted
You always want to look at macro principle not micro principles when judging the morality of people. Freedom for example would be the most important attribute so how well somebody supports that even at the cost of their macro principles is how they should be judged and we always want to get our macro principles right
Do you have a structure for macro and micro principles?
To preface, this isn't a cringy intro for me bringing up God.
I am interested in your rationale
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@WyIted
It wasn't slave traders who called them negro which means black. Libtards decided that because. Southerners are bad at saying negro and it sounds more like nigger that it is randomly a slur
Yes, negro does mean black and that was the initial reason for black people being called “Negro.”
But such was the case that the term took on a derogatory effect.
We see occasionally how a term for a state-of-being becomes derogatory.
Look at “dumb” “lame” “retard”
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@badger
No chance anyone remembers how to spell Skep's full DDO name. Don't think I ever bothered to know how to pronounce it, which is the issue.
Skepacalifragilisticexpialodocious
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@ResurgetExFavilla
What places online do you recommend for expressing opinions and being around others who are articulate in a debate?
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@LucyStarfire
Maybe you could eat some more chocolate or something to stimulate brain flow?My diet is mostly chocolate and milk. I avoid meat, vegetables and grains.
You need more fiber, vitamins, antioxidants, protein, glucose, and fructose.
You might not make it to adulthood
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@thett3
btw, u seem like a very uninformed White.
The DEI can help you understand
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@thett3
It was the slave traders who first called black people "negro" which then evolved to a derogatory term in light of their perceived inferiority of intelligence and social status.Black people adopted the n-word from the white rednecksWell now that’s a real humdinger! It isn’t your job to police Black language any more than it’s their job to police ours. It’s true that I would have a whale of a time trying to find an appropriate way to use that word but it ain’t my word you see? We each got our own way of talkin and that type of diversity is just swell as far as I’m concerned. This site is already on the fritz enough as it is!
I haven't told anyone to stop using the N-word. My point is that the N-word is rooted in racism.
Tell me how explaining the origins and nature of a word means I am a Kracker Karen to Black people all of a sudden?
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@Castin
DabbleCartsmartypantsRanchAteOatTradDebart.com
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@thett3
In Trumps America we have an obligation now more than ever to be better allies. I wish this website had signatures because right now mine would say #JusticeForLeshWanda
couldn't agree more
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@LucyStarfire
My mental age is 13, I just act like a 3 year old.
Is that good or bad?
At that rate, you'll have a 130 yr old brain at age 30.
Maybe you could eat some more chocolate or something to stimulate brain flow?
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@Greyparrot
Most of my 16 year old students don't have a clue what a race or race-hate is. But they have no problems saying nigger all day long....
No problem = Problem.
A = B.
Not racist = racist.
N-word is not racist = n-word is racist.
We have a problem
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@Greyparrot
It's absolutely not racist, it's TRIBAL, which is why people of all dna and skin shades say it, to be in the nigger tribe.
N*gg*r tribe? Lol, some superficial inner-city homeschool online Facebook group name. Also, circular reasoning
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