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@ethang5
Stephen, please get someone to explain the topic to you.
That's your job silly. This is your thread.
Now stop avoiding the questions that YOUR OWN thread has raised and simply give us those examples that you appear to be refuting but haven't.
You AGAIN appear to have missed this >>>
Please try and keep up, it is one of your own few threads after all
Every time some atheist trots out the tired "prayer experiment",
Let's have an example of what it is that you are banging on about. So far, you haven't even given us an example of a "prayer experiment" other than the incomprehensible garbled gibberish that you have put forward.
Showing us an example of what it is that your gibberish is to be compared to would be a good start. As it stands, your gibberish doesn't come across as a scientific example at all, IN FACT! YOU should provide links to at least a couple examples of the "prayer experiment" that you are calling out and refuting.
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@ethang5
You seemed to have missed this. Please try and keep up, it is one of your own few threads after all
Every time some atheist trots out the tired "prayer experiment",
Let's have an example of what it is that you are banging on about. So far, you haven't even given us an example of a "prayer experiment" other than the incomprehensible garbled gibberish that you have put forward.
Showing us an example of what it is that your gibberish is to be compared to would be a good start. As it stands, your gibberish doesn't come across as a scientific example at all, IN FACT! YOU should provide links to at least a couple examples of the "prayer experiment" that you are calling out and refuting.
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@Salixes
God Loves His Children
Then murders them by the planet load.
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@BrotherDThomas
Stephen, [..............]at least give ethang5 credit for actually posting a thread of his own which is number 3 in the past 1 and 1/2 years,
I would rather go to China and lick door handles before I gave him any sort of credit, Brother.
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@BrotherDThomas
Your refutation is spot on, but at least give ethang5 credit for actually posting a thread of his own which is number 3 in the past 1 and 1/2 years,even though it goes severely wanting upon the subject at hand.
I suppose no one should be surprised. He steers clear of creating threads for discussing actual scripture, Brother, and for obvious reasons; he cannot defend them without telling lies, rewriting whole verses and putting words into the mouths of biblical characters and authors that he wished they had said but didn't actually say.
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@ethang5
Every time some atheist trots out the tired "prayer experiment",
Let's have an example of what it is that you are banging on about. So far, you haven't even given us an example of a "prayer experiment" other than the incomprehensible garbled gibberish that you have put forward.
Showing us an example of what it is that your gibberish is to be compared to would be a good start. As it stands, your gibberish doesn't come across as a scientific example at all, IN FACT! YOU should provide links to at least a couple examples of the "prayer experiment" that you are calling out and refuting.
SO, when you are ready.
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I didn't create this thread specifically to attack other members.And yet that is exactly what you're doing.
Well isn't that what this thread was created to do?
And you too weighed in with your own bile against a member too. But you like to forget that don't you, you boring nauseating trollop! Here this is what you wrote:
If you have a fkn problem sunshine, take it up with the threads author reminding him that this is not a FORUM to attack members who disagree with YOU or him but was intended for religious discussion, something that YOU, and now it seems, Dr.Franklin are totally incapable of doing.
I remind you yet again:
At post # 5 above Stephen wrote:.
So while you have decided to create a whole thread dedicated to talk about people, instead of religion,Dr.Franklin I will add my pennies worthThis is what happens when posters do as exactly as they please regardless or the rules and moderation. Ethang 5 is a perfect example of someone not being the slightest interested in any type of serious discussion about his god and the scriptures of his religion.He only ever works to get people banned once he is on the back foot and has been shown to be the total liar, He then simply goes to work on derailing the thread to hide his embarrassment, lies and deceit by burying his lies and deceit with even more total and utter bullshite.There is not a single thread that he joins without insulting someone with his first post if it doesn't agree with his or his demented fairy tale take on his religion. He thinks quoting unreliable unsupported claims from the same unreliable sources is answering question. The second no one agrees with him he simply goes into insult and derailment mode. He's like the little boy who takes his ball home because he can't score a fkn goal. Home truths and facts are anathema to the cretinous and ignorant of this world and unfortunately ethang 5 falls sorrowfully into this category.
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@ethang5
You said.....
You really are a boring and nauseating tit.
Yes I know what I have said , Popoff. As does anyone who is reading here, as can your manipulating of the content and context of my post can too be clearly seen.
I didn't create this thread specifically to attack other members. No! That would be Dr.Franklin, So AGAIN your question should be directed towards him asking him why he decided to created a bigoted thread on this sub forum about religion simply to attack other members? you should be asking him what this sub forum was created for? I know what it was created for , Popoff.
I also know it wasn't created for you to spew all of your bile over anyone who happens not to agree with you. You are are a poison to this forum , in my opinion.
Can I suggest that you read the first line of what I wrote VERY CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY: It is in bold and underlined so you cannot miss it although you will ignore it
At post # 5 above Stephen wrote:.
So while you have decided to create a whole thread dedicated to talk about people, instead of religion,Dr.Franklin I will add my pennies worthThis is what happens when posters do as exactly as they please regardless or the rules and moderation. Ethang 5 is a perfect example of someone not being the slightest interested in any type of serious discussion about his god and the scriptures of his religion.He only ever works to get people banned once he is on the back foot and has been shown to be the total liar, He then simply goes to work on derailing the thread to hide his embarrassment, lies and deceit by burying his lies and deceit with even more total and utter bullshite.There is not a single thread that he joins without insulting someone with his first post if it doesn't agree with his or his demented fairy tale take on his religion. He thinks quoting unreliable unsupported claims from the same unreliable sources is answering question. The second no one agrees with him he simply goes into insult and derailment mode. He's like the little boy who takes his ball home because he can't score a fkn goal. Home truths and facts are anathema to the cretinous and ignorant of this world and unfortunately ethang 5 falls sorrowfully into this category.
Yes! I wrote clearly about you. WELL FKN SPOTTED!!!!!! what's your fkn point. The thread was created by someone else criticizing the state of the forum in the religious sub forum. FFS you just want to skip over this point don't you.
look at this forumAuthor: Dr.Franklin, 2 days ago
This was immediately followed by this:
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@ethang5
Everyday I toss a fruitcake with an undersized brain.
Oh behave. You have proven nothing, shouting god can't do no wrong every time your on the backfoot doesn't , and will not ever, win you an argument.
But this is all you are left with once your excuses for your gods clumsy behavior is exposed for what it really is. Your god is an absolute twat, popoff. he is forgetful, and his creation is full of MASSIVE!!!!!! flaws.
Get over it.
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@Dr.Franklin
get em ethang
Yes, you keep putting the bullets and he will surely fire them.. to his own cost, not your own
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@ethang5
What was this sub forum created for Stephen?
Well if you are the example to go by it was created specially for you to create arguments with anyone that doesn't agree with YOU!!!!!
This particular thread, Author: Dr.Franklin, 1 day ago was, it seems,was created solely to discuss other members of this forum and by Dr.Franklin
OR did you miss the title AND the name of the author AND His opening post: ... of course you did, you just wanted to throw aspersions onto some else. This is how cretinous brain dead of the world like to act when trying to divert the blame from one person ( Dr.Franklin) to another, (Stephen). This isn't my thread so your question should be directed towards the guilty i.e the original poster and author. ASK Dr.Franklin WHAT THIS SUB FORUM WAS CREATED FOR, sad sack.
here is the OP OF THIS THREAD by Dr.Franklin
and oh look, 7/10 topics are made by one personWho could that be?
So what to you think THIS FKN THREAD WAS CREATED FOR on this FUCKING FORUM, POPOFF?!!!!!
And if you are going to quote me at least quote me in context and refrain from doctoring the post to disguise its full meaning and context, like so:
look at this forum Author: Dr.Franklin, 1 day agoand oh look, 7/10 topics are made by one personWho could that be?This is what happens when posters do as exactly as they please regardless or the rules and moderation. Ethang 5 is a perfect example of someone not being the slightest interested in any type of serious discussion about his god and the scriptures of his religion.He only ever works to get people banned once he is on the back foot and has been shown to be the total liar, He then simply goes to work on derailing the thread to hide his embarrassment, lies and deceit by burying his lies and deceit with even more total and utter bullshite.There is not a single thread that he joins without insulting someone with his first post if it doesn't agree with his or his demented fairy tale take on his religion. He thinks quoting unreliable unsupported claims from the same unreliable sources is answering question. The second no one agrees with him he simply goes into insult and derailment mode. He's like the little boy who takes his ball home because he can't score a fkn goal. Home truths and facts are anathema to the cretinous and ignorant of this world and unfortunately ethang 5 falls sorrowfully into this category.
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@Dr.Franklin
look at this forum
Yes look at it. There are bigoted members discussing other members instead of discussing what this sub forum was created for. So while you have decided to create a whole thread dedicated to talk about people, instead of religion,Dr.Franklin I will add my pennies worth
This is what happens when posters do as exactly as they please regardless or the rules and moderation. Ethang 5 is a perfect example of someone not being the slightest interested in any type of serious discussion about his god and the scriptures of his religion.
He only ever works to get people banned once he is on the back foot and has been shown to be the total liar, He then simply goes to work on derailing the thread to hide his embarrassment, lies and deceit by burying his lies and deceit with even more total and utter bullshite.
There is not a single thread that he joins without insulting someone with his first post if it doesn't agree with his or his demented fairy tale take on his religion. He thinks quoting unreliable unsupported claims from the same unreliable sources is answering question. The second no one agrees with him he simply goes into insult and derailment mode. He's like the little boy who takes his ball home because he can't score a fkn goal. Home truths and facts are anathema to the cretinous and ignorant of this world and unfortunately ethang 5 falls sorrowfully into this category.
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@ethang5
And that's why I can toss you for lolz like pizza boy tosses pizza dough.
Oh get over yourself, you pompous deceitful liar. You couldn't toss a pancake in an over-sized pan.
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@Vader
@Salixes wrote : There is no such thing as a priest being a good guy.SupaDudz wrote ; you can only say that for catholic priests, they're the most corrupt, and not in the stereotypical way
Try watching the TV documentary The Witnesses.
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@Mopac
Becoming a monk
Have you been a monk before you were married, Mopac?
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@Tradesecret
Perhaps I have not quoted as you wanted me to.
That's right you haven't. It makes it appear that I am saying what you in fact have said. So unless you learn to quote in context and as the conversation has unfolded, your wasting your own fkn time trying to exchange with me.
Meantime, You have to get over the fact that if you are going to persist that "god" created everything in the whole universe then he created homosexuals and then called it an "abomination" then he ordered capital punishment for those who participate in homosexual acts.
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@ethang5
And yet you keep dodging the question of whether God created your loony threads. Why?
Because I have given up being the slightest interested in your bullshit questions when is all you do when cornered is tell lies and rewrite the whole fucking scripture. So you keep posing them and I will keep ignoring them. I suggest that you stick to form and continue to ignore mine too.
You have to get over the fact that if you are going to persist that "god" created everything in the whole universe then he created homosexuals and then called it an "abomination" then he ordered capital punishment for those who participate in homosexual act.
Strange that there is nothing in the commandments or the whole of the bible that condemns pedophilia. I wonder, is this why it is rife in most religious cults?
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@Tradesecret
Learn to quote properly .You have quoted you as me and me as you. I suppose that is one way to derail a conversation.
You have to get over the fact that if you are going to persist that "god" created everything in the whole universe then he created homosexuals and then called it an "abomination" then he ordered capital punishment for those who participate in homosexual act.
Strange isn't it, that there is nothing in the bible that says sex with minors and infants is taboo.
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@ethang5
Maybe that is because Salixes is used to the fact that none of theists here are willing to debate anythingSalixes believes every theist is dishonest or deluded.
And he may have a case. I know from my own experiences that you and Mopac are both dishonest.
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@Dr.Franklin
every religion topic of yours[Salixes] is useless one-liners
Maybe that is because Salixes is used to the fact that none of theists here are willing to debate anything open and honest concerning any serious criticism made of religion or the scriptures in general without it (in most cases) turning personal and abusive.
Theists simply want 'yes men' all in agreement to discuss exactly the same thing that they all have faith in yet fail to discuss openly and honestly the very thing that they have faith in with the atheist.
Theist simply cannot discuss scripture without relying totally on the supernatural at best and out right lying at worst.
A simple example : Did Jesus walk on water? Theist say he did, but can never explain how he did it and never prove it.
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@Mopac
My wife died 6 months ago,
You have my sympathy , for what it may be worth, Mopac.
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@ethang5
Attacking God doesn't excuse your bigotry Abdul.
Your god is the creator of all things - like it or not!! He created homosexuals and the Aides and Leprosy. He created Small Pox, Pneumonia and all Cancer. He created Dementia, Spina Bifida and Downs, Syndrome, and every sexually transmitted there is to be caught in the whole wide world; you name it and your gods fingerprints are all over it . He created everything that turned out bad even though he says "it was ALL good".
There are over 60 verses in the scriptures concerning 'creator of all things' princess, and all of them agree with me. NOT YOU!!!!! here are a few.
Colossians 1:16 New International Version (NIV)
16 all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
Nehemiah 9:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 You alone are the Lord. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it,
Revelation 4:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 “for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.”
John 1:3 New International Version (NIV)
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Isaiah 64:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 . we are all the work of your hand.
Get over it princess. Your god is a failure who couldn't even remember to create a slave to do all the digging on the land, although , he did remember in the end
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@ethang5
Attacking God doesn't excuse your bigotry Abdul.
Your god is the creator of all things - like it or not!! He created homosexuals and the Aides and Leprosy. He created Small Pox, Pneumonia and all Cancer. He created Dementia, Spina Bifida and Downs, Syndrome, and every sexually transmitted there is to be caught in the whole wide world; you name it and your gods fingerprints are all over it . He created everything that turned out bad even though he says "it was ALL good".
There are over 60 verses in the scriptures concerning 'creator of all things' princess, and all of them agree with me. NOT YOU!!!!! here are a few.
Colossians 1:16 New International Version (NIV)
16 all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
16 all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
Nehemiah 9:6 New International Version (NIV)
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
6 You alone are the Lord. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it,
Revelation 4:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 “for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.”
John 1:3 New International Version (NIV)3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Isaiah 64:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 . we are all the work of your hand.
Get over it princess. Your god is a failure who couldn't even remember to create a slave to do all the digging on the land, although , he did remember in the end.
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@ethang5
The NT was written by Jews and it does affirm the trinity.
You're trying to fudge the question , sunshine. Nowhere in those scriptures do the Jews proclaim that Jesus is god in three persons and one god alone. You and Mopac are both fkn liars.
Mopac has simply lied again about having documented evidence as all you fkn Christians do when caught on the back foot.
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@ethang5
Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.In the case of believing in a man in the sky who sees everything and knows everything, and created , has been described as a delusional metal illness.Attacking God doesn't excuse your bigotry Abdul.
I am not bigoted. and you cannot show me where I have been so.
What homos's do behind closed doors in their own privacy has nothing to do with me.
I am saying it is a genetic fk up. You don't agree but also say it is nothing to do with god. BUT God,according to YOU and all theists created everything . So you have a fkn dilemma princess. Although I know you won't recognize it as such .
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@ethang5
YOU MISSED THIS. WHAT THE FKS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!!! IT IS ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.
So are you now saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice.No. Exactly how bad is your reading comprehension?
OK, so is homosexuality a genetic disorder, then?
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@ethang5
..but not after referring me to the New Testament as your ancient document.The NT is several ancient documents compiled into one.What do you think the NT is?
I believe it to be A COLLECTION OF ambiguous Ancient scripture, FFS! but you need to keep up. The New Testament does not go nowhere to proving that the Jews proclaim Jesus was god in three persons and one god alone. As I asked at post 31 above. <<<<<<<<<THAT IS MY QUESTION .
IF YOU GOING TO BUTT IN ON OTHER PEOPLES CONVERSATIONS AT LEAST READ THE WHOLE CONTENT OF THE FKN THREAD. !!!!!!
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@zedvictor4
Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.
In the case of believing in a man in the sky who sees everything and knows everything, and created , has been described as a delusional metal illness.
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@ethang5
Here is your bigoted homophobe...
Like your homophobic god who is not satisfied with simply not agreeing with homosexual practices, he orders them to be killed doesn't he. just like the Muslims want to murder all homosexuals , even the so called "moderate" Muslims agree with your gods punishment of death.
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@ethang5
So are you now saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice.No. Exactly how bad is your reading comprehension?
OK, so is homosexuality a genetic disorder, then?
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@Mopac
I agree. Mopac.Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic sickness in your opinion?It is a choice to engage in homosexual behavior.
Stop being evasive. Are you saying TO BE homosexual is a conscientious life style choice and not a genetic disorder?
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@ethang5
So why do we have homosexuality in the world, What is that attracts a man to another man sexually? And a woman to a woman sexually.Who knows?So how the FK do you know it didn't come from god.God is not responsible for our adult, conscious, free willed choices.
So are you now saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice.
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Post 48, 2 pre-Nicea contemporaries on opposite sides of the Roman Empire.
This goes nowhere to proving that the Jews proclaim Jesus was god in three persons and one god alone. As I asked at post 31 above.
You have eventually come up with nonsense from The 7th Bishop of Antioch but not after referring me to the New Testament as your ancient document.
This is what I asked you originally:
Lets see those ancient documents and let us see where the Jews proclaim Jesus was god in three persons and one god alone.
You have proven nothing. And you and the collective "we" don't have in your possession any such "ancient documentation" at all.
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So why do we have homosexuality in the world, What is that attracts a man to another man sexually? And a woman to a woman sexually.Who knows?
So how the FK do you know it didn't come from god. Or it isn't a conscious choice? Or that it isn't a genetic fk up?
Do you not see what a fkn great hypocrite that you are.
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@ethang5
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You say it is nothing to do with your god and also say that not nothing to do with genetics and you are now saying it has nothing to do with a conscious choice.No poor reader. I said none of that. All of it is just your loony conjecture.
Oh FFS! stop with the lies and denials. these are your quotes not fkn mine. WHAT THE FUCKS THE MATTER WITH YOU MAN!!!!!!
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:Homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals, and are not genetically fkd up. You are just ignorant and illiterate.
OK so that rules out genetics.
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:God made nothing bad.
OK so that rules out god.
So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?No, I'm saying that homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals
And that above then, also rules out a conscious l choice.
All are your quotes from your fkn own posts . There just has to be something seriously the matter with you if you are going to continue to lie is such open blatant fashion. You are no better and have no more oral integrity that that other liar disgusted that you fought so hard to get banned. You should be banned for your persistent denials and lying just for arguments sake. Your a fkn disgrace!!!!!!
You simply have no explanation why god's creation has gone so abominably wrong have you.
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@ronjs
I've seen cases where homosexuality can be a choice,
I agree. it seems now that it has become ' fashionable ' to be either a raving homosexual / lesbian and in a mixed race relationship.
And because Hollywood is dominated by homosexuals they push their sexuality through most shows,
It does. I find it quite sickening to be honest that they to force feed our children homosexuality almost 24/7. In England almost every fkn drama and TV show and commercial has a fkn homosexual in it as if it is compulsory for them to do so. It is left wing bollocks that is collapsing society in the west.
is it any wonder the Muslims are up in arms here in the UK about their little children being taught about such practices. It must be the only thing ever that I have agreed with Muslims on.
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@ethang5
It isn't the Bible doing the bigotry, it's you. The bible did not pick out, or mention homosexuals.
Stop with the lies and semantics. God and Leviticus are clearly talking about homosexuality. and clearly single out men/males in particular.
You just love a fkn baseless argument don't you .
Where did homosexuality come from, Einstein? How did it develop in humans to become such an "abomination" to god in ancient times that it warranted the death penalty.
Leviticus 20:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
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Leviticus 18:22. "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
There is something seriously wrong with you if you have to persistently blatantly lie about your own scriptures in the belief that it will win you an argument.
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@Mopac
It is one thing to practice these things, it is something else even to call it good or even encourage it.
I agree. Mopac.
Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic sickness in your opinion?
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You say it is nothing to do with your god and also say that not nothing to do with genetics and you are now saying it has nothing to do with a conscious choice.No poor reader. I said none of that. All of it is just your loony conjecture.
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:Homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals, and are not genetically fkd up. You are just ignorant and illiterate.
OK so that rules out genetics.
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:God made nothing bad.
OK so that rules out god.
So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?No, I'm saying that homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals
And that above then, also rules out a conscious l choice.
All are your quotes from your fkn own posts . There just has to be something seriously the matter with you if you are going to continue to lie is such open blatant fashion. You are no better and have no more oral integrity that that other liar disgusted that you fought so hard to get banned. You should be banned for your persistent denials and lying just for arguments sake. Your a fkn disgrace!!!!!!
You simply have no explanation why god's creation has gone so abominably wrong have you.
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explain to me - what "let the dead bury their own dead " mean to you then?He played off the word "dead", using it literally and spiritually in one sentence."Let the spiritually dead bury their literal dead."
That's correct!. It simply means the "spiritually" dead doesn't it. Why has it taken so long for you to recognize and admit that simple fact. Jesus says it literally but meaning ONLY in the spiritual sense of the word. Even Clowns and Jesters have know this to be the case for thousands of years.
As did the father of the lost "dead" son. As did a certain man's "dead" Daughter. As did the widow of the "dead" son as did the sister of the "dead" Lazarus. As did those disciples when they said "come that we may die with him". They are all references to someone being spirituality dead and not literally ready for the grave dead. They are words spoken metaphorically using idioms , the language of the time.
And as I explained above, and on many other of my threads, once we understand that we are only speaking in the spiritual sense, then 'let the dead bury the dead" is easily understandable and explainable. But you have ignored this time and time again. And you even laughed when I stated it time and time again. You also have denied it many times when I have put it forward as an explanation, but now you have finally been forced to admit that these people were not literally "dead" at all but only "dead" in spirit.
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Hey Gomer, I know homosexuals who have fathered and birthed children.So?Then homosexuals can have children Gomer.
I didn't say they couldn't. I have said five fkn times now that homosexuals (males) cannot reproduce with other homosexual (males).
Your grasping for life trying to defend against this "abomination" created by god himself.
So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?No, I'm saying that homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals
You say it is nothing to do with your god and also say that not nothing to do with genetics and you are now saying it has nothing to do with a conscious choice. Then where did this "abomination" of a man fking another man come from? Einstein.
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:Homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals, and are not genetically fkd up. You are just ignorant and illiterate.
OK so that rules out genetics.
post15 --> @ethang5 wrote:God made nothing bad.
OK so that rules out god.
So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?No, I'm saying that homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals
And that above then, also rules out a conscious l choice.
You have managed to rule out just about all possible reasons for there even being homosexuality. So why do we have homosexuality in the world, What is that attracts a man to another man sexually? And a woman to a woman sexually.
Everything is gods creation according to you.When did I say that? Are you lying again?
No, that would be you doing ALL the fkn lying princess. I have absolutely nothing to defend or lie about. You on the other hand, persistently lie about what is written in your own scripture as can be clearly seen above at post 15 where you state;
Leviticus 20:13 does not specify homosexuals. Anyone performing that sin is guilty, even heterosexuals. But your reading comprehension is poor.
No it doesn't , stop fkn lying. YOU JUST CANNOT HELP YOURSELF CAN YOU!!!!
Leviticus 20:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
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Chapter 18 verse 22. "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
You have a serious fkn bad habit of contradicting your own fkn scripture in the hope of making a point and winning an argument. Contrary for the sake of being contrary, how fkn childish. You really are pathetically spent and empty and devoid of reason and explanation or even for excuses, arn't you.
God did not create your loony thread.
AND this is not my thread princess.
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@Mopac
Why are you so passionate? Do you not have any self control?
I have plenty of self control, you have none when it comes to moral principles and integrity.
Why do you have to make such statements that you know are not true and cannot be upheld with factual evidence
"we have documents "to prove that The Trinity has always been a part of church teaching, that Jesus was considered divine even pre-nicea".
Let us all see the documents the YOU, as part of the collective "we" have in your collective we possession. OR simply admit that this was a falsehood.
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@ethang5
Nothing at post 15 explains what it means to be _ as you put it - " dead in Christ"All believers in Christ are called asleep when dead. Repeated in the thread trice.
I see , so it is only your belief then. Which proves and explains absolutely FK ALL!!!!
But going by your own explanation as to what "dead" means, explain to me - what "let the dead bury their own dead " mean to you then?
Luke 9:60 New International Version (NIV)
60 Jesus said to him, “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
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@ethang5
Hey Gomer, I know homosexuals who have fathered and birthed children.
So?
And I said that you are clutching at straws princess. Homosexuals cannot reproduce among themselves.
Homosexuals are not genetically different from heterosexuals,
Ok. So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?
and are not genetically fkd up.
Ok . So are you saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?
God made nothing bad.
And are saying that homosexuality is a conscious choice?
It is us who take the good God created and change them into bad things.
Ok. Are you saying that homosexuals choose to be homosexuals and that genetics has absolutely nothing to do with being homosexual?
Leviticus 20:13 does not specify homosexuals. Anyone performing that sin is guilty, even heterosexuals. But your reading comprehension is poor.
No it doesn't , stop fkn lying. YOU JUST CANNOT HELP YOURSELF CAN YOU!!!!
Leviticus 20:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
AND AGAIN AT
Chapter 18 verse 22. "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
You have a serious fkn bad habit of contradicting your own fkn scripture in the hope of making a point and winning an argument. Contrary for the sake of being contrary, how fkn childish. You really are pathetically spent and empty and devoid of reason and explanation or even for excuses, arn't you.
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@Salixes
Then why single out homosexuals in particular?
That will be because you have titled your thread :
"Is Homosexuality Unnatural?"
And the word origin: Latin homo (human being, man). Or are you asking why THE BIBLE seems to single out men only in particular?
Why doesn't the Bible simply say "for it is abominable for anyone to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of anybody"?
Well I don't know. I am not here to discuss what the bible doesn't say although Christians often like to use what the bible doesn't say to defend and support their theological arguments. But I should imagine that this will be the distinction between alluding to Man & Mankind, which includes women.
What anybody does in the privacy of their own bedroom (or bathroom or kitchen or lounge or balcony or swimming pool) is their own business and to single out one group, in particular, is nothing short of discrimination and bigotry.
My sentiments exactly. Perhaps god didn't mind watching two women getting it on so it wasn't a crime/sin in his eyes. But we don't know do we? The bible doesn't say so, does it?
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@Mopac
"we have documents "to prove that The Trinity has always been a part of church teaching, that Jesus was considered divine even pre-nicea".Lets see those ancient documents and let us see where the Jews proclaim Jesus was god in three persons and one god alone.You don't have to look any further than the New Testament.
So after all your bullshite, you don't have any fkn documents at all :
""to prove that The Trinity has always been a part of church teaching, that Jesus was considered divine even pre-nicea".DO YOU!!!!!
YOUR A FKN BARE FACED LIAR!!!!!!! who does his church, congregation, his book and his god and his collective WE a very big disservice, You should hide your lying face in shame, Mopac
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@ethang5
Nothing at post 15 explains what it means to be _ as you put it - " dead in Christ". Are you saying this "dead" is simply a spiritual "dead"? and are you saying that to be "sleeping" simply means alive but not being aware or accepting of god?
You see, FK ALL you have posted thus far makes any sense on it own without explanation. Why are you afraid to simply explain what it is these biblical terms actually mean. I have given my take on them, you don't agree, yet fail to tell me in your own words what theses words and terms actually means to you, a Christian.
So again when your ready princess.
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