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@YouFound_Lxam
Free will.
It can hardly be free will if it comes with a threat ..... of death. Gen: 2:17
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@IlDiavolo
@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen, do you think that Miss Tradesecret follows these three godly rules above,#40
Well of course not., Brother D. The Reverend Tradesecret is a contradictory clown at the best of times if not all the time. Not to mention his/her double standards when it suites.
I can never forget this eyewatering contradiction and use of double standards spewing from the Reverend.
I once asked the Reverend Tradesecret what he would consider a credible expert?
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Tradesecret wrote: Do you have any support for this from credible expertsStephen wrote: What would you consider to be a "credible expert"? #39Tradesecret wrote: Someone who has studied and been peer reviewed by his field. Not wikapedia.... #40
Now on the face of that you wouldn't expect any different from such a highly educated Wo/man that the Reverend Tradesecret claims to be. BUT!
In another argument concerning the issue and use of "peer review" material, the the Reverend Clown had this to say:
Tradesecret wrote: Peer review is a bollox. Consensus is not proof.#135
And although the Reverend Tradesecret mentions that "Wikipedia" is not to be considered a "credible authority and is in no way "expert" , I have lost count of the times s/he has referenced and submitted into evidence material taken directly from Wikipedia his/her self!
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@zedvictor4
@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
Tradsecret wrote @zedvictor4. Jesus did show. 2000 years ago. He will show up when he is ready.BrotherD.Thomas wrote: As a TRUE Christian, I have to accept that Jesus BLATANTLY LIED by taking 2000 years plus in not returning! This is simply because of the following direct passages inspired by Jesus stating that He was to return in the generation that was present and alive at that time as shown herewith:“There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28)
"After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever." (Thess 4:27)
He also said to them, "Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power." (Mark 9:1 )
He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!” (Revelation 22:20)
Well hasn't the Reverend Tradesecret admitted on a few occasions that s/he is a Preterist or part Preterist, Brother D.? I am far too bone idle to go searching for the Reverends quote on the matter....... unless caused to do so. I am pretty sure The Reverend has once stated that "Jesus had already retuned in 70 AD". Is the Reverend now referring to yet another third "return"?
Preterist:
in Christianity :
one who holds that the prophecies in the Bible about the End Times have already been fulfilled
The Reverend appears to be very confused.
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@zedvictor4
So did Mr Omni GOD exist and then create lots of interesting things to do, or was he created with lots of interesting things to do like create.
He was probably quite content and busy doing nothing for billions of years then got quite pissed off when the idea of creation popped into his head.
Beer in Bromsgrove sounds good. Leave me to think about it.
Ok looking forward to it.
And Me and Mrs Zed are well.
Nice.
Hope that you and yours are too.
We are fine, thank you Vic.
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Correcto! Since Jesus is omniscient (Psalm 147:4-5) and knows in what will happen in the future towards His Jewish creation ONLY (Matthew 15:24), then how could He be bored as the Bible shows us below?! #29
Indeed Brother D. All that planning from man's fall to the unnecessary murder of his own son (which is himself too) and all before he created the heavens and the earth and man himself. Couldn't have been much time for boredom.
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@zedvictor4
Nice. 😊
Hope you & Mrs Vic are doing ok, Vic, lad. I was hoping you'd make the effort to come see me and have a beer in Bromsgrove.
Can you imagine infinite boredom.
How can a all omni god get bored?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
@zedvictor4
The Sun is the giver of everything.
Maybe that is something that the Egyptian "heretic" Pharaoh Akhenaten worked out when he decided that the new state religion was to be Aten (sun) worship?
Before this there was Amen/Amun/Amon the sun god.
Is it coincidence that all the four gospels and the "Lords Prayer" ends with the word - Amen?
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@zedvictor4
On Faith.
Tradesecret wrote: Faith is not blind by nature. That is simply wrong. When someone sits on a seat even though they haven't reasonably tested it, it is in faith. Yet, that doesn't mean that they haven't reasoned with their brain to determine whether it is likely to hold their weight or not. It's still faith.zedvictor4 wrote: Stupid analogy Trade [........................]And a seat is real, but comes with an element of risk.
It not ridiculously stupid, it is breath takingly backward and childish from one that alleges himself to be so highly educated in all things theological and biblical.
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@IlDiavolo
@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
IlDiavolo wrote: There is something that is not clear here, Tradesecret is a she or he? 🤔 😁
I honestly couldn't say.
But seeing that you have asked, I have to go with her first description of herself in her original profile as shown above #29. After all, why would anyone feel the need to lie about their gender in the first place - especially when there is an option to leave it blank?
And we have to consider the fact that Tradesecret claims to be a Pastor and a Chaplain to his/her countries Armed Forces and claims to have been "chosen by god", would it be right for her to lie intentionally to deceive for no reason? Especially over something as trivial as gender?
There again she has also changed her nationality since her first profile and now claims to be Australian where as her initial profile clearly shows she is native of New Zealand.
For me, these petty and unnecessary lies/ contradictions don't seem to fit with someone that also claims to be a true Christian and now a "man" of god that preaches to a congregation of "over 300 worshipers every Sunday".
You can decide for yourself IlDiavolo, it's not his/her petty lies that bother me, it's her fk great whopping lies about herself that should be of concern for those that believe them or have been taken in by them.
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@Best.Korea
@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
Thusly, she [Tradesecret] is learning from our superior Bible knowledge where she owes us immensely!
I doubt it Brother. The Reverend is far too arrogant and ignorant, not to mention pompous.
Why!? I hear you ask.
Well reason 1. S/he tells us :
Tradesecret wrote: Ihave been taught to memorise the bible from very young. I have readthe bible numerous times. I try and read the OT once every year andthe NT twice a year. I know it reasonable well and can evenread Hebrew and Greek. #52Ido understand Orthodoxy. I studied and was tutored byacademics, scholars, and priests and fathers from the OrthodoxChurch. #91
2. S/he is also a defence lawyer after all -
3. and won't be taking any lessons from those - especially atheists that s/he deems to be "drug addled kiddie fiddlers".
Tradesecret wrote: Youmust be an unusual atheist. Most atheists I know are impractical andairhead. Many end up in prison, for theft and sex relatedcrimes, mostly kiddie crime. Many commit suicide and or are on drugsand alcohol. Not too many get married, or if they do - are on totheir 4 or 4th marriage. Many are gay or lesbian. #33
Are those reasons enough for you Brother D.?
most
/məʊst/
determiner1. greatest in amount, quantity, or degree.. Nearly all. The majority. Almost all.
mostly
/ˈməʊs(t)li/
adverb
- as regards the greater part or number."the culprits are mostly, but not exclusively, male"Similar: mainly. For the most part. On the whole. In the main. Almost entirely.
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
MISS TRADESECRET'S QUOTE OF BIBLE IGNORANCE #2: "I'm also a libertarian and yet I am a Christian and hold the view that it was Christian values which brought slavery to its knees."WTF did Miss Tradesecret just say, that Christian values brought slavery to its knees, LOL!!!
I was quite amazed at this statement from our resident Chaplain/ Pastor the Reverend Tradesecret, Brother D. It is of course yet another one of those statements made by the ignorant before doing the slightest research.
Slavery is far from being "on its knees".
Slavery is a bigger problem now than when it was 'abolished'
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@zedvictor4
The Reverend Tradesecret wrote @ zedvictor4
But the question remains. To what extent should Christians engage with the world and how should they engage?
To this extent,. and in black on white from the scriptures themselves.
Mark 16:15 -16
Matthew 28:18-20
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
The Reverend clown has learned nothing nor does he know anything. No doubt he will be asking for definitions of the words - "all", "world" and nations".
The Reverend Tradesecret wrote @ zedvictor4
But there are pockets of the church who have really good ideas - and plans for this world.
yet the bible tells us that god made all the plans ?
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@n8nrgim
chrisitans are called to evangelize.
They are. Its called the Great Commision, yet, in the past the author of the op has, while claiming to have been chosen by god himself has denied this is not his purpose although he claims to be both a Chaplain and a Pastor. Something else the clown didn't know.
The Great Commission
Matthew 28:18--20 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
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@Sidewalker
@ brother D. It must be awful to be so desperate for attention.
I wasn't the Brother nor I that felt the need for attention that we had to resurrect an old thread from 4 years ago and some 1498 days later.
Off you go now.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Concerning your post at #56 above.
I am sure it hasn't gone un-noticed who has resorted to trolling in the religion forum. Without counting I am sure that I have created around 200 threads in the religion forum alone compared to Sidewalkers 2; which to Sidewalkers credit is two more than Lemmings ZERO.😁
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@Lemming
Lemming wrote: Unfortunately I find sincerity hard to detect at times online.Stephen wrote; Such is the nature of the internet, Lemming.With that said, I notice that since you joined this forum in 2018 that you have only three threads to your authorship and not a single one in the religion forum, though you do admit to being an atheist with a "Christian upbringing" and appear to hold conventional Christian values.I am not "anti theist" either, Lemming. But I do dislike bare faced lying theist hypocrites more than I do bare faced lying hypocritic atheists.So I offer you the same opportunity in all sincerity to have a genuine discussion on the resurrection of Jesus or any other part of the bible of your choice.And fyi, I do believe the bible, but not in the way that it has come down and been preached to us over the last two millennia.Lemming wrote: Thank you, but I decline.
I thought you might.
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@Lemming
Unfortunately I find sincerity hard to detect at times online.
Such is the nature of the internet, Lemming.
With that said, I notice that since you joined this forum in 2018 that you have only three threads to your authorship and not a single one in the religion forum, though you do admit to being an atheist with a "Christian upbringing" and appear to hold conventional Christian values.
I am not "anti theist" either, Lemming. But I do dislike bare faced lying theist hypocrites more than I do bare faced lying hypocritic atheists.
So I offer you the same opportunity in all sincerity to have a genuine discussion on the resurrection of Jesus or any other part of the bible of your choice.
And fyi, I do believe the bible, but not in the way that it has come down and been preached to us over the last two millennia.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
It was odds on that Sidewalker wouldn't take me up on my offer to a discussion concerning scripture Brother D. #41
He's just another shite stirrer attempting to make his mark and crying to be heard in true Reverend Tradesecret style. neither actually wish to discuss religion or the bible. They are here in the mistaken belief that this is a religious forum for them to use as a pulpit and go un challenged.
Sidewalker has created only one single thread in the religion forum in which he contributed just 11 posts out of 94 .
And in true Reverend Tradesecret style, he deserted it. HERE> https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7967-childish-god
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@Sidewalker
Lemming wrote: Sorry Stephen, but I'm just not interested in debating the subject in depth with you,Times I've done so in the past, have indicated to me that you're not interested in a good faith conversation, on the subject of religion.Sidewalker wrote: He [Stephen] and his buddy Brother D aren't the least bit serious, they are strictly trolls, and really bad at it too.Stephen wrote: I wouldn't mind having a serious discussion with you on the resurrection of Jesus, for instance or any part of the bible. Would you like me to start a thread ?Nope, I don't feed trolls.
So you are just trolling then..😂
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@Sidewalker
Sorry Stephen, but I'm just not interested in debating the subject in depth with you,Times I've done so in the past, have indicated to me that you're not interested in a good faith conversation, on the subject of religion.He [Stephen] and his buddy Brother D aren't the least bit serious, they are strictly trolls, and really bad at it too.
I wouldn't mind having a serious discussion with you on the resurrection of Jesus, for instance or any part of the bible. Would you like me to start a thread ?
I find it sad that they can be so bad a trolling.
That is because I am not trolling. Every time I start a discussion on the scriptures for instance the Reverend Tradesecret in particular always ends up contradicting himself, the scriptures then results to insulting me and then bailing out. But not before he's told many tall stories about himself.
here is his last example : He joins the discussion here >>
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8152-the-story-of-the-certain-witnesses?page=2&post_number=45
Will you do the same?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
When Miss Tradesecret reads our posts of easily Bible correcting her, she may be able to sleep better in knowing the scriptures a lot better because of us.
Indeed Brother D. One can only hope.
But considering that the Reverend Tradesecret, s/he that tutors University students in everything theological; the scriptures in particular - but didn't - for instance- have a clue that Jesus had "secret disciples" or that Lot was "righteous in the eyes of god" among many other things, s/he didn't know, I doubt very much that anything has been taken in or learned by the forum bible dunce, myself.
When the #1 Bible fool Miss Tradesecret is brought up because of her outright Bible ignorance and stupidity by us in having to literally correct her in the posts shown recently, don't tell me that she doesn't read them, like how could she NOT READ THEM.
Well of course the Reverend Tradesecret reads them, Brother D. just as I do his/hers. As I have clearly shown above at post #36 regardless of his blatant denials.
I have also shown once again in the same post #36 that s/he is the liar I have always claimed her/him to be.
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@Lemming
Stephen wrote: 08.20.2023 08:28PMIf that bible ignorant clown [Tradesecret] makes a claim or statement where I can prove him wrong using his own words, OR THE BIBLEI will do so. As I have done and multiple times too. This is why he blocked me in the end, I guess. He couldn't stand being reminded of his own bullshite, contradictions and outright pathological lies. Thankfully I haven't had to engage that bible dunce for quite a while now.#73I can assure you that the he bible dunce is not missed by me.#71
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Tradesecret wrote @Lemming 08.31. 2023 12:56AMI wouldn't stress too much. I haven't followed his posts for quite a while now.I promise you - you won't miss him. I don't. #35
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@Best.Korea
Tradesecret wrote @Best.Korea
So for you,[.........] In the Hindu religion - it's all about rainbows. And snakes.
Pot /kettle.
It will come as absolutely no surprise for any regular poster on the religion forum to see the Reverend Tradesecret's hypocrisy, double standards and pure bible ignorance & idiocy on display yet AGAIN!
Rainbow/s in the bible and the Christian religion.
As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. Revelation 10:1
I set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. Genesis 9:12-13
And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. Genesis 9:16
And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud. Genesis 9:14
And there was a rainbow round about the throne. Revelation 4:1-4
And snakes in the bible and the Christian religion.
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up. John 3:14
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. Luke 10:19
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. Genesis 3:1-24
"When Pharaoh says to you, 'Perform a miracle,' then say to Aaron, 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,' and it will become a snake. Exodus 7:9
The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.
Numbers 21:8-9
Then the LORD sent venomous snakes among them. Numbers 21:6
The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan. Revelation 12:9
They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." Mark 16:18
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. Genesis 3:1
Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. Exodus 7:11-13
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. Matthew 10:16
So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,....Genesis 3:14
My apologies if I have missed other of the many BIBLE references to rainbows and snakes. .... I haven't had my breakfast yet.
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@Lemming
Maybe I'm mistaken about your stance on religion, or past identities,
You are.
But I don't think I am.
You are.
to me that you're not interested in a good faith conversation, on the subject of religion.
Ancient history and religion are my favourite subjects of all time. I know them pretty well; the scriptures in particular after over 40 years of serious study and research.
Sorry Stephen, but I'm just not interested in debating the subject in depth with you,
Yes, I found this to be a common response from many of those that would rather preach and use this forum as a pulpit rather than a serious discussion forum.
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@Lemming
27But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies,Remind me, how many deaths is the loving god responsible for now?For instance in just these two example off the top of my head:"Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”1 Samuel 15:3 ?Or this one:Nahum 1:2God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies?Yep I can feel the love of the Lord just pouring out all over the place in those verses.The Bible says a lot of things.
And among those " lots of "things", it certainly contradicts itself lots of times. Unless you can explain them away, can you?
I find value in it.[the bible]
Such as?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Guess what time it is AGAIN? Yep, Jesus and I have to correct Miss Tradesecret's Bible Duncery®️ again!
Lets be honest Brother D, it take vey little effort, if any at all.
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@zedvictor4
Just like 2000 years ago...New religion created new division.
Absolutely spot on Vic, lad.
All purposefully engineered by the "new gods" of the new millennium that usher in their new religion/way of life . The ancients too had their "great reset", "new normal" and "building back better". It is a running theme that is easily traced all the way through from before and up to the Old and New Testaments.. As I keep saying, the OT is nothing but a war book of wars fought by men on behalf of their new and old gods. In a nutshell, the old were extremely reluctant to hand power to the new..... without a fight.
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@Lemming
27But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies,
Remind me, how many deaths is the loving god responsible for now?
For instance in just these two example off the top of my head:
"Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’”1 Samuel 15:3 ?
Or this one:
Nahum 1:2
God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies?
Yep I can feel the love of the Lord just pouring out all over the place in those verses.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
I read #73 that you referenced, Brother D.
I can only say it is simple more gobbledygook from a bible dunce trying to come across as intelligent and knowledgeable. I don't believe many here fall for his bullshite anymore. His sycophants have disappeared as has his believability as any type of "authority" on scripture.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Stephen isn't allowed to ask a single question all night
Not even- "is there anyone there"?
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea wrote: Why am I labeled "HAriskrish"?The Reverend Tradesecret wrote: Because that is your name. Or at least one of your aliases.
This from the man that has had more personas on the forum than a D.I.D. sufferer. And has more faces than Michael Jackson in the hall of mirrors.
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@zedvictor4
What about you Stephen....One of the Brothers with the curly ginger hair perhaps.
Probably 6th from the right believed to be doubting Thomas pointing his finger skyward and asking - " give me one good reason to believe a fucking word you and others have to say about yourself".
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Im a dead ringer of jesus.Absolutey exact [.............[But not ummm, ( charismatic ) .
Don't worry Deb. Jesus wasn't as pure as the driven snow either.
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@Sir.Lancelot
You cherry-pick excuses like christians do bible-verses.
Ok. Lets see my "excuses" for reminding the bible clown where he is wrong? Or where he has contradicted himself? Where he has lied and been a bare faced hypocrite. I don't need excuses ffs, , he gives me reasons to do so. Besides, I haven't had to engage that bible dunce for quite a while now.
You seem to forget that this bible clown claims to have heard the voice of god and that god had chosen him personally. That he had been tutored and trained by the "very best in the field of theology" including a "Hebrew teacher". He has learned "ancient languages and has translated them into English" That he tutors students at universities (those poor students). We are supposed to be talking about a highly educated individual, an individual that doesn't need support or protection from you.
And for a man of god that is supposed to be preaching love thy fkn neighbour and forgiveness to the world, he has nothing but bile to spew about "most atheists he has met". using words to describe us as "slime of satan" and "thick as fuck" and "drug addled kiddie fiddlers" among many other derogatory terms. While forgetting the he admits to being "a sexual deviant that has experimented sexually in all kinds of ways"
Chosen by god my fkn arse!
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@Sir.Lancelot
I think you should keep trolling and goading him, but stop making lame excuses for it though.
What excuses? They are not "excuses" they are REASONS, learn the fkn difference.
If that bible ignorant clown makes a claim or statement where I can prove him wrong using his own words, OR THE BIBLEI will do so. As I have done and multiple times too. This is why he blocked me in the end, I guess. He couldn't stand being reminded of his own bullshite, contradictions and outright pathological lies. I can assure you that the he bible dunce is not missed by me.
Nope. Not all Christians are gasconading, hypocritical, contradictory compulsive pathological liars.Really?Name one christian from this site then.
name one what!?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Miss Tradesecret is most certainly "problematic" in the FACT that she spews forth biblical lies that have to be corrected by myself ad infinitum, or others!
Indeed, Brother D. His problems are always self created and inflicted.
He doesn't even know basic biblical scripture. This is why he is afraid to discuss the bible but still tries to preach about something he doesn't know or understand.
I have had to correct him many, many times on simple basic scripture.
He is BIBLE stupid and BIBLE ignorant. Yet he claims to be a Pastor and a Chaplain to his countries Armed Forces and also heads a place of worship with a congregation of over 300 parishioners! AND all while being a criminal defence lawyer that runs a farm.
Laughable doesn't cover it!
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@Sir.Lancelot
Lmao.
Yes tradesecret's proclaimed life achievements are laughable.
You just described the typical Christian. I couldn't care less if you want to troll said person or remind them of their lies, but quit acting like they're this evil person.
I don't think he is evil. I honestly believe he is extremely ill.
I couldn't care less if you want to troll said person or remind them of their lies,
Then stop whining on his behalf. He does enough of that for himself although in the same sentence he says "its all water off a duck's back" to him.
[ in tradesecret] You just described the typical Christian.
Nope. Not all Christians are gasconading, hypocritical, contradictory compulsive pathological liars.
I want to receive the official title of “having the coolest/most entertaining debates”
You have a very long way to go before that comes about.
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@RationalMadman
(tradesecret)....
.....Lies compulsively and continually. He denies past statements he's made continually. He denies making claims he's made in the past continually and he continually contradicts his own past statements and claims. AND he even denies that which is actually written in scripture, ffs!
Are you telling me that one isn't allowed to remind such a compulsive pathological liar, of what he has said, lied about and claimed in the past?
I will continually remind Traedesecret and anyone else of his past statements, lies, claims and contradictions if and when I or himself gives me cause to do so.
So don't come bleating and getting offended on someone else's behalf when he himself tells us that "it's all water off a duck's back" to him and that "words are just words" and don't bother him while screaming victim in the same fkn sentence!.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
there will be NO WOMEN in heaven, this is probably because we superior males over the 2nd class woman had to put up with them while upon earth!
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“Simon Peter said to them: Let Mariham go out from among us, for women are not worthy of the life. Jesus said: Look, I will lead her that I may make her male, in order that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Thomas 114)
Indeed, Brother D., a proper little misogynist wasn't he; Peter the lords "rock" , denier and betrayer?
the following image is so apropos to their godly existence: https://www.imagebam.com/view/MELSJ7V
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Therefore, don't give up[Stephen] because Jesus as my serial killer God stated to us: "He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
Maybe after your conversation with "the lord Jesus" on my behalf he may take it upon himself and visit me, Brother D. From what I now from various biblical stories is that he only visits people in their sleep. A strange way of going about things if you ask me, but I suppose this is one of the many "mysterious ways" that Christians often speak about when they are on the backfoot for answers to biblical dilemmas:
such as, why was not John the Baptists parents of the "greatest prophet that ever lived" not given the same warning to get out of town when Herod ordered the massacre of the innocence? That would be a good question for "the Lord" to answer, don't you think Brother D. ?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
He mentioned you in the respect of you being more of a Christian in knowing the Bible like you do.
Maybe I have been "called" and don't know it, Brother D? I would dearly love to interview "the lord Jesus" but I fear he would give me a wide berth as do all of those other pastors , preachers & teachers do on this forum.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Welcome back Brother D.
I hope your welcome return will regenerate my own interest in the religion forum.
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@FLRW
Yes, I hope he [Brother D. Thomas] comes back.
Me too. Sorely missed.
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@Best.Korea
Do you believe now?
No. Its clap trap. The kind of clap trap that the Reverend attempts to spew on this forum and no doubt to his 300 + congregation.
AND! It doesn't sound very much like the god that both you, I or anyone can read about in the Bible does it?
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@Best.Korea
Tradesecret wrote: ......
One of my best friends, is the result of a rape. Her father raped her mother and she was conceived. I happen to think that Tina (not her real name) is a positive benefit from that rape. The rape ought never to have occurred. but it did. The mother kept the baby, adopted her out. The girl grew up and is now one of NZ's most popular and successful businesswoman.
.......yet another TALL story.😂
If this was a murder victim, I am sure he would spin us all a yarn of the benefits of being murdered from the victims standpoint and from his own experience. 🤣
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@Best.Korea
So every murder and every rape is in our best interest? It is all good for us?The Son's of God committed rape.It is usually best to skip those parts of the Bible that cannot be in any way justified by any sane individual.
It is for the Christian.
Indeed. Even if "the lord does work in mysterious ways".
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@Best.Korea
So every murder and every rape is in our best interest? It is all good for us?
The Son's of God committed rape.
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@IlDiavolo
This caught my eye.
IlDiavolo wrote; we are sent to this fucking world to accomplish a mission: make the human being evolve.
I was trying to remember where I had read something very similar.
I think it was here;
The “Lost Book of Enki” is written by Zecharia Sitchin who accurately describes the Great Flood that occurred in the age of Leo, some 12,500 years ago when the planet Nibiru neared Earth.
An interesting read whatever one's beliefs.
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@IlDiavolo
So, let's say there is no God, no hell, no heaven, no devil,
Then you would have posted in the wrong sub-forum.
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@DavidAZ
I told you that you it would not prove anything to you.Or anyone else of sound minded level-headedness.I'm just ignorant right?
I cannot speak for other subjects but you certainly are when it comes to the subject that you preach to others and proclaim to be true; such as the bible.
You have such a bitterness to the things of God that you have to try to destroy everything pertaining to him.
Well from my own understanding , reading and studying of the BIBLE, the god of the BIBLE doesn't display anything worth liking. In fact the god of the BIBLE displays for us every reason to be in fear of him leaving me with no desire to love him.
But you are more welcome to re-educate me on why I have everything wrong about the BIBLICAL god and the BIBLE. I would certainly appreciate it as long as you have the supporting BIBLICAL evidence that proves your assertions and claims .
You never told us why you are so bitter. Why are you just a pissy old man?
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